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How to cope with the corona virus ..facts- not fiction.

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GGV8Cruza

Quote from: Bird on June 17, 2021, 02:24:03 PM
Victoria

Health Minister Greg Hunt says the government has accepted the advice and Pfizer will be immediately available to those 40-59 years old.

Great, i am halfway through. I guess i have to keep going on the AZ train wreck ride

GG

Bird

Quote from: GGV8Cruza on June 17, 2021, 03:06:04 PM
Great, i am halfway through. I guess i have to keep going on the AZ train wreck ride

GG
it was worth holding off :P
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Jeepers Creepers

I was too old..... i was getting AZ whether i liked it or not i think.

Mind you, i got a better chance of being hit by lightning or being beaten to death in my sleep by Astrid than i have of getting a blood clot.

I DON'T CARE HOW NICE THE HAND SOAP SMELLS.....

You should never walk out of the public toilets sniffing your fingers.

D4D

Earliest booking on the DHHS site is now mid July...
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#jonesy

The advice is if you had AZ first dose is to follow up with the second.  Heard that on the radio 2:30 pm on the way home after having just had my second at 2pm.  Might explain the no delay in the AZ queue at the Royal Exhibition Building.  With more staff than patients.  The other queue looked like a looking wait. 

No comment by the staff about the new changes.  Maybe they didn't know.

Oh well, if you never hear from me again, blame the blood clots. 
2013 Aussie Jays - Crusher      2013 Toyota Hilux. 

jclures

Bonnie and I both had our first shot on Tuesday, yesterday we both felt a little off, but nothing today. We are both over 60 so it was the AZ shot.

Jeepers Creepers

Quote from: #jonesy on June 17, 2021, 03:43:37 PM
The advice is if you had AZ first dose is to follow up with the second.  Heard that on the radio 2:30 pm on the way home after having just had my second at 2pm.  Might explain the no delay in the AZ queue at the Royal Exhibition Building.  With more staff than patients.  The other queue looked like a looking wait. 

No comment by the staff about the new changes.  Maybe they didn't know.

Oh well, if you never hear from me again, blame the blood clots.

Just in case.... bye.
I DON'T CARE HOW NICE THE HAND SOAP SMELLS.....

You should never walk out of the public toilets sniffing your fingers.

Bird

Quote from: #jonesyOh well, if you never hear from me again, blame the blood clots.
leave me your lux :P
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DandyD

Quote from: GGV8Cruza on June 17, 2021, 03:06:04 PM
Great, i am halfway through. I guess i have to keep going on the AZ train wreck ride

GG

I've had both. Didn't even get a sore arm the second time around.

Blood clot risk after the second dose estimated to be around 1 in 600,000. To put that into perspective, blood clots caused by the contraceptive pill run at about 1 in 1000. The vast majority of people who suffer blood clots make a full recovery.

The key thing is to remember is that if you have blood clots after your first shot, don't get the second.

#jonesy

Went home yesterday after the second AZ.  After the bad reaction last time and what little info there was about side effects on the second I expected similar, and maybe just a quicker onset.  Even planned so if I was crook I still had a workday in the week to take a sickie.last night I say watching tele, waiting for the inevitable, and NOTHING

This morning only the very slightest tenderness, which is no different to any other vaccination i have ever had.
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Spada

Quote from: DandyD on June 18, 2021, 03:34:30 AM
Blood clot risk after the second dose estimated to be around 1 in 600,000. To put that into perspective, blood clots caused by the contraceptive pill run at about 1 in 1000. The vast majority of people who suffer blood clots make a full recovery.

Very valid point DandyD.
In Australia every single day an average of 107 people are admitted to hospital from car accidents, and every single day an average of 3 people DIE from car accidents....... yet we are all completely comfortable to accept that risk and get in our cars.
(statistic here-https://www.bitre.gov.au/statistics/safety#:~:text=Hospitalised%20Injuries%3A&text=In%202017%2D18%2C%20there%20were,per%20100%2C000%20population%20was%20156.5.)

For some reason (and I blame media sensationalism) society seems to be a little hysterical about the risk associated with the vaccine, even though the risk of illness/death is significantly lower than driving your car to work  ???
Spada.
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Pete79

Or if you think of it like car companies.
The guys in charge of getting the jab into everyone's arms at the moment are like Jeep, they have 3 or 4 little fires and they let public convince each other that they shouldn't buy their brand.

Where as they really should have been more like Toyota and suffer from hundreds of thousands of failures and yet still somehow convince the public that they are awesome.... ;)

They put all of their eggs in one basket, then they said there might have been some issues with that one, then they said it wasn't a race and you don't have to worry that there isn't enough supply, then they said there's actually a few more issues then they originally thought, then they said maybe you should have it if you're under 50, sorry now it's under 60.

So now you have a huge section of the public that want to get this done, but don't trust what they're being sold, just like Jeeps... :P

gronk

I'm 62. It used to be anyone over 50 would get the Astro.......now it's anyone over 60 gets it.
I'm going to wait until it's over70, then I'll get the pfizer.  Win, win.!!
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2019 Lifestyle Ultra

Bird

Quote from: gronkI'm going to wait until it's over70, then I'll get the pfizer.  Win, win.!!

100's have been calling up cancelling... cant blame em either.
But bet it wasnt part of their plan LMAO
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Troopy_03

Well I had no problem with getting the AZ shot about 7:30 last night. And bugger all queue to get in. Just a very slight muscle soreness on the area of the jab, but no different to most jabs. Certainly a lot less of an effect than the Cholera shots I used to get roughly every 3 to 6 months, for about 20 years.
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Hairs

QLD has just labelled Sydney LGA a Red Zone, Hot Spot.
You don't use magic to disappear, all you need is a 4wd & a Swag ;)

Bird

Quote from: Hairs on June 18, 2021, 03:03:07 PM
QLD has just labelled Sydney LGA a Red Zone, Hot Spot.
Deadset theres nothing HOT about Shitney.... Anywhere LOL :D
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Hairs

Quote from: Bird on June 18, 2021, 05:15:11 PM
Deadset theres nothing HOT about Shitney.... Anywhere LOL :D
Ahahaha,
You'd be right about that.
;)
You don't use magic to disappear, all you need is a 4wd & a Swag ;)

DandyD

If you want to get some idea of the chances of covid killing you, try this...

https://www.qcovid.org/Calculation

It's a kosher tool developed by Oxford University.

Mine was about 1 in 7000, which is sobering  >:( Although, I did get it and it didn't kill me. :D

rags

Just googled the risks from Pfizer and they seem not that different

chest pain or pressure,
pain spreading to your jaw or shoulder,
nausea,
sweating,
vision changes,
sudden vision loss,
severe shortness of breath,
cough with foamy mucus,
ringing in your ears,
sudden hearing loss,
irregular heartbeat,
swelling in your hands, ankles or feet,
seizure (convulsions), and
lightheadedness

Then I realised that this was for Pfizer Viagra.
Oh well, I guess most 50 plus year old blokes would be happy to take the risk if they could get their hands on Pfizer Viagra.
Not sure why a COVID vaccine is a problem with similar risks



Mace

Quote from: DandyD on June 18, 2021, 05:55:55 PM

Mine was about 1 in 7000, which is sobering  >:( Although, I did get it and it didn't kill me. :D

Its a pity they dont have a localized version of this tool here....  Might encourage a few to get the jab.

Oh, and Im 1 in 851.    Very sobering.
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Steffo1

Quote from: Mace on June 19, 2021, 11:53:18 AM
Its a pity they dont have a localized version of this tool here....  Might encourage a few to get the jab.

I doubt it, mace. Pre social media, there was only a certain amount of gullibility in the populace. There most certainly was a bit of stupidity, too.
These days, people are maxing out on both!
"Gullidity", perhaps?
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'08 TD V6 Disco 3
'10 16' Evernew Pop Top

"sit bonum tempora volvunt"

DandyD

Quote from: Mace on June 19, 2021, 11:53:18 AMOh, and Im 1 in 851.    Very sobering.

I played around with the figures and me losing a stone in weight improved(?) the odds from 1 in 7k to 1 in 8k. I might skip breakfast today.

Or maybe tomorrow.

Bird

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D4D

Trying to book a vax via both the VIC Gov and Commonwealth providers. Looked up to the end of October and couldn't find anything available.
I owe, I owe, it's off to work I go...

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