How to cope with the corona virus ..facts- not fiction.

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Bird

Quote from: edzSome may find this interesting ..  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJSUKDng_Ww
interesting if its true and not just click bait.
Hello from Bolivia,
ivermectin home kits were widely distributed last year during the first wave.
Some states acted first and the drop in cases was so significant that the rest of the states soon followed the same protocol.
Few weeks into it, the cases overall dropped from 3000 daily to less than 100.


but no $$$ in it for the pharma companies.
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DandyD

Quote from: Pete79 on June 03, 2021, 09:23:23 PM
Up until now the government's official line on clots was 1 in 100,000.
Based on these latest 41 cases of clotting that number is now more like 1 in 34,000.

I wonder why it is so high. We have around 35 million people vaccinated over here in the UK (not all with the AZ vaccine) and 168 people have developed clots after the AZ. The absolute risk of death by clotting after the AZ vaccine is about one in a million.

Pete79

Quote from: DandyD on June 05, 2021, 01:46:48 AM
I wonder why it is so high.
Not sure.
Maybe it was all those years of living under the hole in the ozone layer that has messed up our platelet counts as well as giving us all skin cancer..... :P

#jonesy

Quote from: DandyD on June 05, 2021, 01:46:48 AM
I wonder why it is so high. We have around 35 million people vaccinated over here in the UK (not all with the AZ vaccine) and 168 people have developed clots after the AZ. The absolute risk of death by clotting after the AZ vaccine is about one in a million.
Our vaccination figures are mostly old people, maybe they are more susceptible to clotting, whereas in the UK those may have already suçumbed to the disease
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DandyD

Quote from: #jonesy on June 05, 2021, 10:36:24 AM
Our vaccination figures are mostly old people, maybe they are more susceptible to clotting, whereas in the UK those may have already suçumbed to the disease

It's the other way round.

"Rare blood clots from AstraZeneca vaccine mostly affect younger people"

https://www.ft.com/content/dfaff95b-8f64-4963-9483-494498c55863

The AZ vaccine is only given to over 40s in the UK because of this.




#jonesy

My son was booked in for his learners in the first weekend of lockdown.  Thankfully VicRoads released on line learners tests early for him to do.  So he past is it today, bit still doesn't have his learners as he has to go in to the VicRoads office to have his photo and pick it up.
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Bird

Quote from: #jonesy on June 06, 2021, 02:38:55 PM
My son was booked in for his learners in the first weekend of lockdown.  Thankfully VicRoads released on line learners tests early for him to do.  So he past is it today, bit still doesn't have his learners as he has to go in to the VicRoads office to have his photo and pick it up.
daughter had to wait 8 months with the backlog from the lockdown to get her L's :(
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lloydus67

Quote from: Bird on June 01, 2021, 09:39:32 AM
plenty of dodgy joints around work that unlock phones for few bux ;) Im sure there'd be somewhere close by you guys that would do it too
Are you sure a USA phone will work here? I'm pretty sure that most of there bandwidths are different. I think that they do use 1 common 3G bandwidth, but not 4g or 5G. You may find that she is stuck with a dud phone that only has intermittent coverage.


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Bird

Quote from: lloydus67 on June 06, 2021, 04:57:03 PM
Are you sure a USA phone will work here? I'm pretty sure that most of there bandwidths are different. I think that they do use 1 common 3G bandwidth, but not 4g or 5G. You may find that she is stuck with a dud phone that only has intermittent coverage.


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dunno to be honest, but Aussie phones work there when on holidays or work trips... ?
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DandyD

I had my second AZ shot yesterday lunchtime.

I'm still here.  :laugh:

Bird

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Jeepers Creepers

Has anyone else heard the Clive Palmer ads?

I have the radio going in the shed when i work.

There is an ad being pummelled at the moment on radio correcting figures quoted for vaccine injection numbers and issues.
By the time i realise the ads on, its bloody over again.

They are short and sharp.
Tried to google it and can't come up with anything?

We are both getting our jab this morning...... i don't take a whole heap of notice of ol Clive baby.

But interesting, that the big fat Muppet seems to be on a new crusade to save humanity.

I DON'T CARE HOW NICE THE HAND SOAP SMELLS.....

You should never walk out of the public toilets sniffing your fingers.

#jonesy

I'm not sure did I heard one a while ago, or a mailbox drop,  I think it was about the vaccine not being safe as it hasn't gone through all the trials. 

I wouldn't be taking health advice from him. 

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Jeepers Creepers

Done and dusted.... Astrid and i have got our first jab.  :angel:
I DON'T CARE HOW NICE THE HAND SOAP SMELLS.....

You should never walk out of the public toilets sniffing your fingers.

Bird

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Jeepers Creepers

I DON'T CARE HOW NICE THE HAND SOAP SMELLS.....

You should never walk out of the public toilets sniffing your fingers.

Rowlie

My wife and I are currently travelling in Qld and have been hearing the Clive Palmer ads as we drive. They are misleading in so much as they start quoting Australian stats ie only one Covid related death this year then quotes a figure of over 200,000 adverse reactions to the vaccine which he attributes to TGA stats. I assume he is now referring to world nos. If I was in any doubt about the vaccine before listening to these ads I would be converted by them. Palmer is anything but a picture of health himself and what he knows about this disease could be written on the head of a pin and there would still be room for the Lord's Prayer.

Jeepers Creepers

I DON'T CARE HOW NICE THE HAND SOAP SMELLS.....

You should never walk out of the public toilets sniffing your fingers.

Bird

Quote from: Rowlie... and have been hearing the Clive Palmer ads as we drive. They are misleading
a wannabe politician in AU being Misleading?? Why I never...
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Brij

Quote from: Rowlie on June 07, 2021, 02:16:16 PM
My wife and I are currently travelling in Qld and have been hearing the Clive Palmer ads as we drive. They are misleading in so much as they start quoting Australian stats ie only one Covid related death this year then quotes a figure of over 200,000 adverse reactions to the vaccine which he attributes to TGA stats. I assume he is now referring to world nos. If I was in any doubt about the vaccine before listening to these ads I would be converted by them. Palmer is anything but a picture of health himself and what he knows about this disease could be written on the head of a pin and there would still be room for the Lord's Prayer.

So if there was 820 deaths in Vic alone last year, and the vacine has only been available this year, and there has only been one death this year it must mean the vacine is working :cup:

Stats are great tools for what ever you are selling :cheers:
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Jeepers Creepers

OK..... i was hoping i would have no side effects.

Went to bed really early....
Back up at 10 for a pee.... freezing cold, with a wicked dose of the shakes.

Back in bad, shakes stopped and slept till midnight, back up for a pee..... no shakes.

Then, back up at 1... 2... and 3 for a pee and took 2 Panadol rapids for a headache.

Back up at just before 4 for a pee again and Astrid was up as well.

I'm feeling pretty good, with a mild noggin ache.

Astrid was moaning she'd been up nearly all night, having a pee every hour.
She's still a bit cold and icky and gone back to the land of Z's now.

So over all, nothing to be alarmed about or concerned with.  :cup:
I DON'T CARE HOW NICE THE HAND SOAP SMELLS.....

You should never walk out of the public toilets sniffing your fingers.

DandyD

Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on June 08, 2021, 04:07:09 AM
OK..... i was hoping i would have no side effects.

So over all, nothing to be alarmed about or concerned with.  :cup:

I was absolutely knackered for two days after my first AZ. Tired and achy.

After my second... nothing, not even a sore arm.

My mum had the Pfizer and it was the other way round for her.

Mrs Dandy had the Moderna and was fine with the first. Hasn't had the second yet.

Jeepers Creepers

Funny thing this morning, i was wearing way less for the temp we have or what i would normally have on.

All of a sudden, it was time for the big ol sloppy joe to go on.

I think i've just cleared the side effects perhaps.
I DON'T CARE HOW NICE THE HAND SOAP SMELLS.....

You should never walk out of the public toilets sniffing your fingers.

Rowlie

My wife was pretty crook for 24 hrs so when I had mine a week or so later I deliberately planned nothing for the next day. I actually felt really well, no side effects at all. If anything it was almost like I had a dose of pick me up. I am not sure yet wether I have been sterilised or had a location chip implanted - I guess only time will tell !!!!

Bird

Quote from: Jeepers Creepers
Back up at 10 for a pee....
till midnight, back up for a pee.....
up at 1... 2... and 3 for a pee
before 4 for a pee
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