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How to cope with the corona virus ..facts- not fiction.

Started by Bigfish, March 13, 2020, 07:46:30 AM

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tryagain

Quote from: gronk on April 08, 2020, 07:01:27 PM
In theory, if everyone did the right thing, this virus would die out in 2 weeks.

The full shutdown that happened in China that apparently stopped it, took about 60 days and involved literally welding people's doors shut. Their now "relaxed" restrictions are still far greater than ours. This is where theory and reality are very different, the chief medical officer has said that they don't believe it is possible for it to be totally killed off.
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Is it going to be like the flu you reckon? We can only vaccinate for last years strain because it is constantly mutating.

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Quote from: Hairs on April 08, 2020, 08:45:30 PM
Our biggest hurdle is,
Entitlement.
Nope, most people will still die from things like cancer and heart disease.

But are we prepared to spend several hundred billion dollars in the next 6 months to cure those ? I doubt it.


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Quote from: gronk on April 08, 2020, 08:00:19 PM
Has for Hong Kong and Singapore !!  Italy took too long to social distance and self isolate. It was out of control before they did anything.

Not really, they have a low rate of increase, but it's still increasing.
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Quote from: rockrat on April 08, 2020, 08:52:05 PM
Nope, most people will still die from things like cancer and heart disease.

I'm curious to see the equivalent data from the major death causes, it would make for interesting reading.
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Bigfish

Quote from: D4D on April 09, 2020, 07:27:14 AM
I'm curious to see the equivalent data from the major death causes, it would make for interesting reading.

Many will still die from cancer and heart disease...but we have spent 10,s of billions on research already and still spent many millions every year.
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Deaths in NY City are over four times the average rate at the moment.

Pottsy

Sadly the second victim of Corona in SA was a friend of 25 plus years, both her and her husband worked in the same industry as I did. I can only think of the anguish he must be feeling after not being able to be with her during her final days.  It is no consolation but thankfully their children are young adults.
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Sorry to hear that Pottsy :'(

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Quote from: Hairs on April 08, 2020, 08:45:30 PM
Our biggest hurdle is,
Entitlement.

Exactly what I think as well.  The ignorant and arrogant think they know better and that rules and laws that have been implemented shouldn,t apply to them. No one enjoys isolation, the govt didn't want to spend billions and ruin what would have been a surplus, and People dont want to live in fear.  We are not in real isolation...try England...anyone over 60 MUST self isolate for 3 months..NO leaving the house under any circumstances.. Thats isolation!! It only takes one brain dead infected person to set the virus going in a community. Into our 4th week of self isolation and the sky hasn't fallen. Still go for a walk, plenty of movies on tv/laptop, gardening(yuk), plenty of projects for camper and shed as well. 

I see the bullShit posts from the entitled ones about driving around for relaxation, whinging that they cant go to the beach, the gyms shut , cant go to piss ups etc.etc. .  You just cant fix stupid or entitlement.
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rockrat

Quote from: Pottsy on April 09, 2020, 07:51:55 AM
Sadly the second victim of Corona in SA was a friend of 25 plus years, both her and her husband worked in the same industry as I did. I can only think of the anguish he must be feeling after not being able to be with her during her final days.  It is no consolation but thankfully their children are young adults.
RIP L.
Sorry to hear that Pottsy.


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D4D

Quote from: Bigfish on April 09, 2020, 07:45:22 AM
Many will still die from cancer and heart disease...but we have spent 10,s of billions on research already and still spent many millions every year.

Thanks, that is interesting data. I guess the difference here is the top 3 are not easily transmissible like COVID-19.
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Bigfish

Quote from: Pottsy on April 09, 2020, 07:51:55 AM
Sadly the second victim of Corona in SA was a friend of 25 plus years, both her and her husband worked in the same industry as I did. I can only think of the anguish he must be feeling after not being able to be with her during her final days.  It is no consolation but thankfully their children are young adults.
RIP L.

Sad indeed.  Even sadder when you cannot visit them in hospital  and even funerals are completely compromised.   Apparently once you are diagnosed and in hospital there are no visitors.  Imagine if one of kids/grandparent/relation contracted this virus..No visits...Thats why everyone has to do the right thing..its only for a short time and hopefully everyone comes out well in the end.
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Bigfish

Quote from: D4D on April 09, 2020, 08:04:10 AM
Thanks, that is interesting data. I guess the difference here is the top 3 are not easily transmissible like COVID-19.

Interesting that influenza is only just in front of accidental falls...
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Quote from: tryagain
The full shutdown that happened in China that apparently stopped it,

I agree with the apparently.... I dont believe a word they say...
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Pete79

Quote from: Bigfish on April 09, 2020, 11:22:19 AM

That cant be right Al....Trumpy reckons he,s got it all under control because he,s very smart..... ;D
They say he's the smartest ever.

alnjan

Quote from: Bigfish on April 09, 2020, 11:22:19 AM

That cant be right Al....Trumpy reckons he,s got it all under control because he,s very smart..... ;D

and if he keeps saying it over and over often enough people will believe him.   But when you look at the other side it doesn't take much to be very smart I guess. 
Cheers

Al and/or Jan

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comment in todays paper

I can tell you the noise from cars travelling along the Surf Coast Highway and Great Ocean Rd has increased dramatically this morning and has been non stop since 6am.

I think many people aren't taking the 'stay at home' rule seriously. As a small coastal town, we are already being inundated with visitors arriving.

If you have a safe home, please stay in it. While we heavily rely on tourism for many businesses survival during a normal Easter holiday weekend, we are too small of a town to cope with the normal influx of Easter tourism during this crisis.
Please do the ethical thing and stay home.
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I think this is sending the wrong message.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-04-09/coronavirus-queensland-funeral-mourners-indigenous-significant/12132614

alnjan

Quote from: jclures on April 09, 2020, 05:42:51 PM
I think this is sending the wrong message.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-04-09/coronavirus-queensland-funeral-mourners-indigenous-significant/12132614

just heard it on the news.  One rule for all
Cheers

Al and/or Jan

shakey55

Quote from: Bigfish on April 09, 2020, 11:22:19 AM

That cant be right Al....Trumpy reckons he,s got it all under control because he,s very smart..... ;D
And he said it would be over by Easter


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