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How to cope with the corona virus ..facts- not fiction.

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Quote from: gronk on July 18, 2021, 09:21:24 AM
I'm thinking like a retired dope rather than an expert, but for those that have reactions to the vaccine may be the ones who would have had really bad reactions to the virus itself....so a win for those people to have the vaccine.

My understanding is those who have quick/large reactions actually have a good immune system. Once you get the jab, the immune system says WTF is that in me and starts the immune response to build up the antibodies.
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Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on July 18, 2021, 12:17:55 PM
All i know is, whether i'm dead next week, next year or whenever, it'll be no good me being a donor of any sort.

My ol body is pretty much rooted now..... so good luck getting any spare parts out of it.

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gronk

Quote from: D4D on July 18, 2021, 01:43:47 PM
My understanding is those who have quick/large reactions actually have a good immune system. Once you get the jab, the immune system says WTF is that in me and starts the immune response to build up the antibodies.

I don't know ?  The missus had her 1st jab 2 weeks ago and got a large rash around the jab spot....went to the drs and they said it was a good sign because of what you just said.
As for large reactions, does that mean 90% of people who have had the jab HAVEN'T got a good immune system ??
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Pottsy

Interestingly had my Az shot in late May, no reaction other than some soreness at jab site, 5 weeks later had my flu shot and within 24 hours crook throat, congestion and cough, still got the cough and due for surgery Wednesday, hoping it won't be cancelled.
Not sure what that says about my immune system.
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alnjan

Quote from: D4D on July 18, 2021, 01:43:47 PM
My understanding is those who have quick/large reactions actually have a good immune system. Once you get the jab, the immune system says WTF is that in me and starts the immune response to build up the antibodies.

Opposite to my understanding.   As the Vaccine is giving you a dose of Coronavirus and your body is fighting the virus.   The larger the reaction you get the more Covid would have affected you if you got the full Coronavirus.   
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DandyD

None of that explains why more people experience stronger side effects after their first jab if they have  AZ and nothing after their second but with Pfizer/Moderna, it's the other way round.

D4D

Quote from: DandyD on July 18, 2021, 07:10:15 PM
None of that explains why more people experience stronger side effects after their first jab if they have  AZ and nothing after their second but with Pfizer/Moderna, it's the other way round.

I believe that's due to the way the vaccines work, AZ and Pfizer work differently.
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DandyD

Apparently, I'm getting a third jab in September/October.

My arm will probably fall off this time.

lloydus67

What vaccine did you have? What was the wait between jabs that you need a booster in 3 months?


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DandyD

I had AZ with a 12 week gap. Second shot at the start of June.

I think they are expecting a surge in cases (by UK standards) in the winter, so are going to offer flu and CV boosters to over 50s in the Autumn from now on.

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gronk

Quote from: DandyD on July 18, 2021, 10:02:06 PM
I had AZ with a 12 week gap. Second shot at the start of June.

I think they are expecting a surge in cases (by UK standards) in the winter, so are going to offer flu and CV boosters to over 50s in the Autumn from now on.

Boosters.......hell, 3/4 of Australia haven't even had their 1st jab yet !!  By the time we all get fully vaccinated, covid may have disappeared !!   ;D
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DandyD

Quote from: gronk on July 18, 2021, 10:53:27 PM
Boosters.......hell, 3/4 of Australia haven't even had their 1st jab yet !!  By the time we all get fully vaccinated, covid may have disappeared !!   ;D

Some interesting vaccination statistics here...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55274833

London has the lowest vaccination rate. I suspect demographics plays a part there.


Jeepers Creepers

Quote from: gronk on July 18, 2021, 10:53:27 PM
Boosters.......hell, 3/4 of Australia haven't even had their 1st jab yet !!  By the time we all get fully vaccinated, covid may have disappeared !!   ;D

Yep..... got me beat.

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Bird

Quote from: DandyDI suspect demographics plays a part there.
that and so many mixed messages about everything to do with the disease, variants, vaccines, side effects, manure being spread thick and fast round the world by different companies/governments/drug manufacturers etc as part of the cause...
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Quote from: gronk on July 18, 2021, 10:53:27 PM
Boosters.......hell, 3/4 of Australia haven't even had their 1st jab yet !!  By the time we all get fully vaccinated, covid may have disappeared !!   ;D
yep... my wife is a pre-school teacher.

diabetic, asthmatic, front line... high risk.

Just got her first jab last Thursday.

She had to taker the day off work as her employer wouldn't allow her the time off.
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Quote from: wakychapmansShe had to taker the day off work as her employer wouldn't allow her the time off.
actually everyone who has AZ here takes the following day off expecting the bad side effects. :(
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Quote from: wakychapmans on July 19, 2021, 11:44:17 AM
yep... my wife is a pre-school teacher.

diabetic, asthmatic, front line... high risk.

Just got her first jab last Thursday.

She had to taker the day off work as her employer wouldn't allow her the time off.
That sucks mate she should have been able to get it much sooner with diabetes considered a high risk factor.


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... the Victorian Government has confirmed that the current Melbourne lockdown will not be lifted on Tuesday night and will be extended for a further time period, yet to be announced.

I am shocked
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MarkGU

FFS !!

Now it looks like the virus is now in coffs harbour  >:(

FFS, cant these brain dead morons just stay at home  ??? ???

I say instant jail time for the ones who intentionally spread this thing.
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NSW needs to go into a hard lockdown, not the pretend lockdown there have atm.

gronk

Quote from: Kangaron on July 19, 2021, 01:47:08 PM
NSW needs to go into a hard lockdown, not the pretend lockdown there have atm.

What's a hard lockdown ?
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GGV8Cruza

Quote from: gronk on July 19, 2021, 01:53:06 PM
What's a hard lockdown ?

Similar to Melbourne, 5km limited distance to travel away from home, at one point we had a curfew to keep people at home. Masks are mandantory except in your own home.

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Pottsy

SA now has a case where an Argentinian man returned to NSW and served mandatory quarantine for 14 days  and tested negative, he then travelled to SA and showed symptoms, went to hospital and has now tested positive throwing a major hospital emergency dept into chaos.
This Delta strain is a bastard, I think as a nation we are in for a tough time with constant outbreaks and lockdowns becoming the norm rather than the exception
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Quote from: gronk on July 19, 2021, 01:53:06 PM
What's a hard lockdown ?

As per GGV8, and for the entire greater Sydney metro area for a start. No one can leave home except exempted health care, emergency services workers and the like.   Its most likely too late for that now.
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