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How to cope with the corona virus ..facts- not fiction.

Started by Bigfish, March 13, 2020, 07:46:30 AM

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bkim

Quote from: banksy69 on March 26, 2020, 02:59:12 PM
Just a heads up to the Queenslanders, i have just gone into vote as I didn't want to stand in line on Saturday with thousands of people.
No hand sanitizer at the door and everyone is using the same pencil.
???

When I voted in Townsville Thursday morning, they had 4 lines (very large building internally) approaching the registration desks to collect your voting papers, (eight desks, 2 for each line, all with over 2 m separation), they had over 2m separation in all directions between the voters in the lines (lines on the floor with directions prominently displayed) and the same at the voting booths and the ballot boxes, everybody was handed their own pencil when in the line, by a person wearing gloves and a mask, all pencils were put in a container when you exited.  Two staff were then wiping down all the pencils with sanitiser and bleach.

Once you were checked off on the electoral roll, both voting slips were printed out from printers on the desks, one printer for each registration point, you then picked up the voting papers yourself, the voting papers coming out of the printer vertically so didn't touch any equipment, so no physical contact between you and any staff in the building.

I felt that all the required precautions were being observed when I was there, so I was reasonably satisfied with the safety aspects

Spada

Quote from: bkim on March 27, 2020, 01:14:36 AM
When I voted in Townsville Thursday morning.........

.........I felt that all the required precautions were being observed when I was there, so I was reasonably satisfied with the safety aspects

Fair enough too I believe.

There has been a lot of carry on about the election still going ahead, and I suppose ideally it should have been put of for another 6 months (not sure how that fits with the legislation though). Personally, I recon the polling booths with their controlled ingress/egress and controlled people movements inside, and regular cleaning happening would make the polling booths a reasonably safe place to be, compared to the random and haphazard mingling of people and uncontrolled touching of everything that people seem happy to accept in Woolworths or Coles? How often are the basket and trolley handles being cleaned? and how many people have touched that packet on the shelf before you pick it up? Or what about the handle on the petrol bowser? have you used an elevator, or a pedestrian crossing button? did you sit on that bus/train seat, or stand and hold the handle? did you push the button to open the door on the train? was the toilet seat at work sanitised after every use? did you instinctively hold the rail on the public stairs or escalator? Did you open any doors at the shops or public places? have you used the pinpad on an eftpos or ATM?

Just sayin, when it comes to the spread of this virus there are far more dangerous places we all encounter every day than the polling booths will be, yet a section of public opinion seems to be fixated on the dangers of gathering to vote?
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Quote from: Spada on March 27, 2020, 07:03:51 AM
Just sayin, when it comes to the spread of this virus there are far more dangerous places we all encounter every day than the polling booths will be, yet a section of public opinion seems to be fixated on the dangers of gathering to vote?

In reality your phone probably has more germs than the polling booth...
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Bigfish

Quote from: D4D on March 27, 2020, 07:15:32 AM
In reality your phone probably has more germs than the polling booth...

The mobile phone is one of the filthiest things your hands will ever touch.
Having lots of friends on farcebook is the same as having lots of money in monopoly...means absolutely nothing!!

Bad Scott

Quote from: Bigfish on March 27, 2020, 07:18:19 AM
The mobile phone is one of the filthiest things your hands will ever touch.
Definitely. Especially from some of the groups I'm in  >:D
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Spada

This site might be interesting to watch, hopefully they'll debunk a lot of the mis-information that is being spread on social (and even mainstream) media? - https://www.abc.net.au/news/factcheck/
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Fizzie

Quote from: McGirr on March 26, 2020, 06:18:20 PM
Well as of 11.59pm tonight, we are in complete lockdown in the community.

We cannot leave and if we do we would need to self isolate for 14 days.

This includes everyone in the community.

What a bummer.....

Mark (now isolated)

So how's that going to work, Mark ???

Are you supposed to go around to every house & deliver food, somebody comes to the store to collect, or, once again, will they start thinking about those fine details sometime over the next few days ??? ::)
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Bird

Premier Daniel Andrews not expected to announce further restrictions today

While Daniel Andrews is widely expected to introduce 'stage three' restrictions, his office has made clear that his 3pm press conference will be an update only, with no major announcements, and he will not announce further restrictions today.
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rockrat

I wonder how long it will be before the big law firms start class actions against the operators of the Ruby Princess and the NSW government. It is pretty clear they both failed in their duty of care to every single person in Australia.


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hardroad

You can not get infected from someone until 24 hours before they show symptoms. This is the Dutton law.
You can not get infected by rubbing your hands through someones hair, unless its for more than 30 minutes.
You cant infect someone after you get off a flight while traveling to your house. However you can infect someone once you get to your house and up to 14 days later.
Children can not get infected while at school.
You can't get infected if you vote for the tools who make rules
Wait. You cant get infected by rubbing your hands through someones hair for any amount of time.

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Bigfish

Western Australian Premier has announced that:
"We've made the extremely difficult and completely unprecedented decision to shut down travel between WA's regions.

From midnight Tuesday, restrictions will be placed on travel within the entire State of Western Australia.

Western Australians will not be permitted to leave their regional boundary."
If you are currently away from home - you need to come back. Now.

If you were planning a trip - you cannot go.
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McGirr

Quote from: Fizzie on March 27, 2020, 08:54:52 AM
So how's that going to work, Mark ???

Are you supposed to go around to every house & deliver food, somebody comes to the store to collect, or, once again, will they start thinking about those fine details sometime over the next few days ??? ::)

The store stays open until things do happen. If the virus breaks out then the company will start 4 hr trading, card only no cash and no local workers.

Unfortunately it sounds great in theory but impossible to do. Time will tell.

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tryagain

Quote from: Pete79 on March 27, 2020, 09:01:12 PM
Shits all over our premier, what's her name again, umm, actually do we still have someone running this state??

Current premier announcement count as seen on my tv:
NSW = 20+
VIC = 20+
TAS = 10+
SA = 2
WA = 1
NT = 0
ACT = 0
QLD = 2  ( 1 saying the border is closed and the other saying the election is still on)

Credit where it's due, our accidental Premier learnt from to the last one who was turfed for making to many changes, so she on the whole avoids making decisions, can't get it wrong that way.
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glenm64

Said it before and I'll say it again. We are a nation of selfish pricks.
Next step total lock down and they will wonder why.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8162569/Oblivious-sunbathers-popular-beach-ignore-blatant-warnings-amid-coronavirus-pandemic.html

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Raym

This was an interesting watch. The Korean experience from their top medic in the field.

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hardroad

Quote from: glenm64 on March 28, 2020, 08:32:47 PM
Said it before and I'll say it again. We are a nation of selfish pricks.
Next step total lock down and they will wonder why.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8162569/Oblivious-sunbathers-popular-beach-ignore-blatant-warnings-amid-coronavirus-pandemic.html

Cheers Glen
Maybe if the politicians got their act together and didn't confuse the issue or better still, told the whole truth then we would be better informed to make non selfish acts. Hell the beaches are closed but you can swim, run, surf or walk the dog. Seriously where is the consistency??? https://sgst.com.au/2020/03/not-confused-about-beach-closures/

tryagain

Quote from: hardroad on March 29, 2020, 07:53:58 AM
Maybe if the politicians got their act together and didn't confuse the issue or better still, told the whole truth then we would be better informed to make non selfish acts. Hell the beaches are closed but you can swim, run, surf or walk the dog. Seriously where is the consistency??? https://sgst.com.au/2020/03/not-confused-about-beach-closures/

I don't think they have done a bad job (both lib and lab leaders) , if you make half an effort you easily find out what you are supposed  to do you can easily find out. They all seem to be taking the advice of the experts and making decisions based on that, the bigger issue is that the Dunning Krueger effect seems to be in full swing in the broader public.
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Bird

Quote from: tryagain on March 29, 2020, 09:58:20 AM
I don't think they have done a bad job (both lib and lab leaders)
hate to say it but same
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