Police checking for Mods, Sth East QLD

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Quote from: duggie on September 11, 2018, 10:15:28 AM
Measurement of height rule for a GQ Nissan Partol Wagon : Vertical measurement wheel centre to top of wheel arch opening at unladen mass.

The bit that I just noticed about this was "at unladen mass"

So, when they pull you up at the side of the road, they're going to remove your bullba & roof racks, take the drawers & fridge out of the back & empty all your luggage & 90% of your fuel to take the vehicle down to unladen mass to measure it ???
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Quote from: doc evil on September 12, 2018, 07:35:40 AM
As soon as you say, "but that is blue plated sir", I can guarantee you that the fine toothed comb will come out and more of your time will be wasted because you are now considered a smartass.......... and if there is a bit of mud where it shouldn't be, off to DOT you go!!

Come on, not even you believe that..... really.....defect you for a spec of mud?

Quote from: doc evil on September 12, 2018, 07:35:40 AM
Nothing to do with the fact that you are dragged off the road and away from where you were going under the "assumption" your vehicle "looks" illegal!!

That's the way enforcing the law works, if it looks like you might be breaking it they check, if you are you face the consequences, if not they send you on your way.
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So 6 pages and has anyone on here as yet been actually pulled over ????
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Quote from: doc evil on September 12, 2018, 07:35:40 AM
As soon as you say, "but that is blue plated sir", I can guarantee you that the fine toothed comb will come out and more of your time will be wasted because you are now considered a smartass.......... and if there is a bit of mud where it shouldn't be, off to DOT you go!!

Nothing to do with the fact that you are dragged off the road and away from where you were going under the "assumption" your vehicle "looks" illegal!!
As stated before... It has happened to me, be it a long time ago and in NSW, Police pull you over for roadside inspection and the RTA  boys do the checks " I have a certificate for the Modifications "  officer ..."  We will  need you to proceed straight to the RTA inspection center for further tests Driver " ..
" But why, here is the Mod certificate "  reply was " Are you going to comply or do we place a defective vehicle sticker on the vehicle and it has to be towed and you take it off the road till its Inspected " ..
The head inspector didnt deem my roll cage met with [ His ] the standards and defected the car, even though the RTA Recognised Engineer had signed off on it  ...  Verdict was 21 days to rectify the defect and get a blue slip full roadworthy compliance, AT my expense .
A good half of a day plus wasted sitting around the RTA Inspection station, then more time removing the Roll cage and getting a Blueslip clearance.
That was the quickest option to get back on the road, other  than fighting with the Bastards at the time ....
Soo Im guessing if the Inspectors want to be " Turds "  they can be and you dont get much say in the matter at the time .. And I was being calm,  polite and minding my manners .. Would have hated to see  how they would have reacted if I put on a show ..
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Quote from: chester ver2.0 on September 12, 2018, 08:43:10 AM
So 6 pages and has anyone on here as yet been actually pulled over ????

As per the thread title, and the link posted, at least some people have been pulled over, defected etc, so it's pretty irrelevant whether they were also members here. Also, I don't think the cops are issued with a list of forum members...  ;D
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Fizzie

Quote from: Troopy_03 on September 12, 2018, 08:47:40 AM
Also, I don't think the cops are issued with a list of forum members...  ;D

Oh I dunno - I know there's a few :police: swaggers, so they may be passing details on to their mates... >:D ;D
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Quote from: tryagainCome on, not even you believe that..... really.....defect you for a spec of mud?
The latest fav around these parts is dirt on your lights or # plate...

2 blokes I know have been done for it, and when you see the photos of the "dirt" there was pretty much no obstruction to the light or plates and nearly every car on the road would be off the road ..  Just the bacon on a PR exercise.
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Quote from: Bird on September 12, 2018, 09:01:43 AM
The latest fav around these parts is dirt on your lights or # plate...

2 blokes I know have been done for it, and when you see the photos of the "dirt" there was pretty much no obstruction to the light or plates and nearly every car on the road would be off the road ..  Just the bacon on a PR exercise.

Got done for similar in Vic many years ago........be late 90's. Was course checking the "rally in the valley" in my skyline. Had those clear plastic licence plate covers. A light covering of dust on the "inside" of the covers.........fine and points........ licence plate was visible, just the copper was being a prick!!

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Quote from: Bird on September 12, 2018, 09:01:43 AM
The latest fav around these parts is dirt on your lights or # plate...

2 blokes I know have been done for it, and when you see the photos of the "dirt" there was pretty much no obstruction to the light or plates and nearly every car on the road would be off the road ..  Just the bacon on a PR exercise.

You got pics? not saying there aren't  :police: who are on a power trip as I don't doubt there are, just curious to see what they deemed worthy of a fine.
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Quote from: edz on September 12, 2018, 08:45:54 AM
As stated before... It has happened to me, be it a long time ago and in NSW, Police pull you over for roadside inspection and the RTA  boys do the checks " I have a certificate for the Modifications "  officer ..."  We will  need you to proceed straight to the RTA inspection center for further tests Driver " ..
" But why, here is the Mod certificate "  reply was " Are you going to comply or do we place a defective vehicle sticker on the vehicle and it has to be towed and you take it off the road till its Inspected " ..
The head inspector didnt deem my roll cage met with [ His ] the standards and defected the car, even though the RTA Recognised Engineer had signed off on it  ...  Verdict was 21 days to rectify the defect and get a blue slip full roadworthy compliance, AT my expense .
A good half of a day plus wasted sitting around the RTA Inspection station, then more time removing the Roll cage and getting a Blueslip clearance.
That was the quickest option to get back on the road, other  than fighting with the Bastards at the time ....
Soo Im guessing if the Inspectors want to be " Turds "  they can be and you dont get much say in the matter at the time .. And I was being calm,  polite and minding my manners .. Would have hated to see  how they would have reacted if I put on a show ..

Wow, you must have had no confidence in the qualifications and/or the certification of your "RTA Recognised Engineer" to remove the cage and have it re-inspected.  If a qualified, certified engineer had approved the cage installation, end of story.  Something is a bit odd with this.

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Quote from: Fizzie on September 12, 2018, 08:52:36 AM
Oh I dunno - I know there's a few :police: swaggers, so they may be passing details on to their mates... >:D ;D

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Quote from: KingBilly on September 12, 2018, 09:27:27 AM
You and Bird in a competition to see who can be the biggest keyboard warrior tosser?

KB

Is your lack of a sense of humor indicative of your profession?  >:D >:D
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Bird

Quote from: tryagainYou got pics? not saying there aren't  :police: who are on a power trip as I don't doubt there are, just curious to see what they deemed worthy of a fine.
Na mate had them on his phone - put it this way I've seen worse in suburbia than this was.
Tryin to find image on google images but cant see much similar.
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Quote from: chester ver2.0 on September 12, 2018, 08:43:10 AM
So 6 pages and has anyone on here as yet been actually pulled over ????
was reading earlier a post elsewhere made by a fella I know, he wrote....
QuoteI warned the son to be on the lookout- yep around the redlands bike cops were doing the rounds bringing in every modified 4x4 they could find to the portable inspection station.  They were setup at the boat ramp at Raby Bay and also somewhere in Capalaba.
there is definitely a blitz on currently, it's not just internet BS



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chester ver2.0

Quote from: Troopy_03 on September 12, 2018, 08:47:40 AM
As per the thread title, and the link posted, at least some people have been pulled over, defected etc, so it's pretty irrelevant whether they were also members here. Also, I don't think the cops are issued with a list of forum members...  ;D

I was more about if someone on here as actually been pulled over and could give FIRST hand info as to what went on, what was measured, looked at etc
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Sorry for late reply gents been working, Id say that sticker is the same as mine Steve, as mine is only half there, 265/75 x 16 tyres,, Mr edz Craig
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Quote from: Craig Tomkinson on September 12, 2018, 11:58:33 AM
Sorry for late reply gents been working, Id say that sticker is the same as mine Steve, as mine is only half there, 265/75 x 16 tyres,, Mr edz Craig

Your current tyre diameter is about 804mm (265x1.5+16x25.4) which is the same as the placard that steffo01 posted and edz interpreted.

In short, you are fine.
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Quote from: chisel on September 12, 2018, 12:14:35 PM
https://www.drive.com.au/motor-news/qld-police-ambushed-modified-4wds-119460.html

Probably the best criticism of the blitz I have seen so far, the retrospective nature of the law change without a public awareness campaign if true is pretty bad. Some of the AAAA claims though seem pretty self-serving though and contain logical fallacies.
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Quote from: tryagain on September 12, 2018, 12:40:21 PM
Probably the best criticism of the blitz I have seen so far, the retrospective nature of the law change without a public awareness campaign if true is pretty bad. Some of the AAAA claims though seem pretty self-serving though and contain logical fallacies.
Bye bye tourism.

" including visiting interstate cars – the new law has seen many tourists and locals unsuspectingly fined with defective stickers handed out, including the impounding of some vehicles."
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Troopy_03

Quote from: chester ver2.0 on September 12, 2018, 11:48:43 AM
I was more about if someone on here as actually been pulled over and could give FIRST hand info as to what went on, what was measured, looked at etc

Fairynuff, but that wasn't clear in your one line post.
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edz

Quote from: KingBilly on September 12, 2018, 09:24:10 AM
Wow, you must have had no confidence in the qualifications and/or the certification of your "RTA Recognised Engineer" to remove the cage and have it re-inspected.  If a qualified, certified engineer had approved the cage installation, end of story.  Something is a bit odd with this.

KB
The head honcho deemed the front half of the cage had to be removable for road use [ which was totaly stupid and to be bolted back in when I got to the race track ]  otherwise he would not clear the defect  ...
As said it was for me, far easier / quicker to remove the cage at the time and get back on the road [ about 24 bolts and an hour or so of my time  ] ..
And yes I and many others had little confidence in EITHER of the Head RTA inspector and the Recognised So called Engineer . But he was THE MAN  we were sent to see and  empty our wallets with, to get engineer certificates  in our area ..
My engine builder who is and was a Real Engineer with many many years of real experience, battled  for over 4 hours to get this RTA approved engineer to understand that an engine can be de- stroked  to get a smaller engine CC displacement, this was needed to meet the proper engine capacity for the the engine mod for rego  On several occasions ..
My engine builders assesment on the abillities of the RTA engineer, Was how in gods name did he ever get endorsed as an Engineer when he couldnt even understand the most basic engineering principles ..
But hey I was there / Experienced this event,  so it mustnt of happened that way ...
Yep, the very odd bit is someone in AUTHORITY PLAYING GOD  and someone thats got a piece of paper to be an AUTHORITY being INCOMPETENT .... BUUTTTT  that would never happen .....     Strange Huh !
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Quote from: chester ver2.0 on September 12, 2018, 08:43:10 AM
So 6 pages and has anyone on here as yet been actually pulled over ????

I think my mothers brothers, his sons step mum, the cousin of the step mum aunties grand child got bull over

LOL...or a mate of a mate.


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