Portable butane cookers withdrawn from sale in NSW

[vk2ss55]

Now they're back with an upgraded model .

[prodigyrf]

Gas cannister apparently and it's blown those windows out-
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/dudley-park-man-seriously-burnt-in-house-explosion-on-young-st/story-fni6uo1m-1227552558069
Was it a butane cooker and a big pan eh? If it was that wouldn't have occurred with a safety can but we'll see.

[Big Damo]

Gas cannister apparently and it's blown those windows out-
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/dudley-park-man-seriously-burnt-in-house-explosion-on-young-st/story-fni6uo1m-1227552558069
Was it a butane cooker and a big pan eh? If it was that wouldn't have occurred with a safety can but we'll see.

I think there is more to this than cooking on butane camp stove.
Me thinks they might have been cooking up somthin special nudge nudge

[oldmate]

I think there is more to this than cooking on butane camp stove.
Me thinks they might have been cooking up somthin special nudge nudge

Yep. I reckon

[prodigyrf]

I think there is more to this than cooking on butane camp stove.
Me thinks they might have been cooking up somthin special nudge nudge

Hmmm... Dudley Park isn't the most salubrious of metro Adelaide addresses and there is that old couch on the verandah of the maisonette so we'll have to wait and see 

[farcanal]

Went into BCF for other stuff and noticed a brand new display of the new gas cans.
I asked the bloke about the stoves and if the problem was with the stoves or the cans....he said "neither, it was dumb operators"

[Danna]

Hey guys
it doesn't matter how much the re-called product cost, when there is a safety concern we should get our money back, including  money for cartridges we may still have.
Cheers Dana

[oldmate]

Yep, and that's where the technicality is!  They didn't actually do a product recall. If they had, everybody would have to return item to store of purchase for a refund, but, they just pulled the item off the shelves to stop and further sales until testing had been done. Then they just released a new and improved version, of the box that is.

Oh, and there is nothing wrong with the canisters, never was, they have always been for sale, as they are used for other things also.

[alnjan]

That's exactly right Oldmate, they were never banned, apart from a very limited number of models they were never recalled, and those recalled were not the full recall, cashback we would expect.  The whole situation was completely blown out of proportions by social media.

[prodigyrf]

Bottom line is the safety cans remove all serious risk at negligible cost so that's when it makes sense to update the Regs making them mandatory instead of worrying about old cookers out there or whether dummies are using using them.

[Bill]

We finally got the new stoves in last week.
I put up about 20 single burner and 10 double burner.
They were all gone in about 4 hours.
I didnt even get a chance to see what the differance was inn  the new models.
Bill

[jw2170]

Still trying to find one in the Liverpool (Sydney) area..

Saw them advertised by Supercheap, but they did not have any in stock...

[farcanal]

just returned from a 5 1/2 week journey to Airlie Beach and back.
took my old stoves (2) plus about 8 cans. After using 3 or 4 cans I bought a new stove in Port Augusta and some new cans. Bought another new stove in Big W (can't remember where) and the shelves were almost bare....the new ones are going off like hot cakes. Both old stoves were chucked in bins along the way. They were still working, but I like the new ones....seem to have a more positive control knob.

[slydar]

looked at wobblehead (stepson)'s new setup, he got his from bcf. name brand - primus - have known the name for years - didn't see or feel a lot of difference between it and the old clunker

[itchvet]

Went into BCF for other stuff and noticed a brand new display of the new gas cans.
I asked the bloke about the stoves and if the problem was with the stoves or the cans....he said "neither, it was dumb operators"

I'd have to agree with him on that. Had one of these things now for FOUR years, only prob I have with them, is they FREEZE up in cold weather and gas cant pass thru and get to the burner.
Folks have suggested I sleep with the canister, which I did, got it nice and warm, but it still froze over after about 5 mins. Any suggestions ??

[GQMacca]

I'd have to agree with him on that. Had one of these things now for FOUR years, only prob I have with them, is they FREEZE up in cold weather and gas cant pass thru and get to the burner.
Folks have suggested I sleep with the canister, which I did, got it nice and warm, but it still froze over after about 5 mins. Any suggestions ??

If I'm at altitude, or its cold, I'll rotate through three canisters - one in each pocket and one in the burner.  I also use the burner with the little flap open to hopefully get some radiant heat on the canister (where's my Darwin award?!?) 

[Bird]

I bought a new stove few years ago for day trips, it uses the bigger canister.. sadly they freeze up too and it wasn't even cold up around Thommo Dam 2 weeks ago.

[Fizzie]

didn't see or feel a lot of difference between it and the old clunker

Had a look at one in Ray's over the weekend - appears that the little flap that locks into the neck of the gas bottle is now a u-shape, rather than just a flat tongue as previous 

Could be the only change, as a bloke in the camping store did say a while back that the "fault" was that that flap is supposed to push upwards if the bottle expands, thus cutting the stove off, but some of these tongues were bending & letting it still run, leading to a fire / explosion.

[Troopy_03]

I think the trivet on the new ones is a little higher too.

[Bill]

We were informed that they also do not get as hot...
Bill

[#jonesy]

I had a close look at my new improved model and the old doomsday Devi e and cam up with the following.
The little metal flap at the top is not the cutoff. It is not connected to anything and both stoves will work whether it is up or down when started and will not Shit it off if I lift it. Underneath there is a little metal tab. If the can is not lined up with the flap it is not lined up with the tab. If you push the lever and it is not lined up the tab fouls on the can and pushes it to the side causing gas to leak. The flap just assists with lining up the tab. I can't figure out the purpose of the tab except maybe there is a pick up inside the can and this orientates the can correctly.

In the attached photo the red strip IS to a safety device. If you operate the lever without a can you will see a tab come up at the end of the action. If you push this down it triggers the safety by pulling the can carrier away from the gas valve. But like a mouse trap. Above this is a cylinder. I assume that as pressure builds up a piston inside pushes on the tab and pulling the can away.

This on both my old and new models and maybe my spare double burner I lent to the mother in law.

I did notice my new double burner has QC stickers in each compartment. One lists 390-401 PSI and the other 411-430 PSI

I assume they now test each one and put a sticker for the range it activates.
I don't know if the old one had one in the past as it is several years old.
The trivet heights all look about the same above the burner. I have seen some brands where the surround it lower making the trivet appear higher.

[Troopy_03]

I had a close look at my new improved model and the old doomsday Devi e and cam up with the following.
The little metal flap at the top is not the cutoff. It is not connected to anything and both stoves will work whether it is up or down when started and will not Shit it off if I lift it. Underneath there is a little metal tab. If the can is not lined up with the flap it is not lined up with the tab. If you push the lever and it is not lined up the tab fouls on the can and pushes it to the side causing gas to leak. The flap just assists with lining up the tab. I can't figure out the purpose of the tab except maybe there is a pick up inside the can and this orientates the can correctly.

Yes, the tab that aligns with the slot in the can is so that the L shaped pickup tube inside the can is pointing upwards, so that it feeds vapor, not liquid to the burner.

[Cruiser 105Tvan]

Ray's and the Supercheap group have a recall on these now.
They specify dual burner Butane canister stoves.

http://media.supercheapauto.com.au/bcf/files/user/recall_notice/Product_Safety_Recall_-_Stove.pdf

[Cruiser 105Tvan]

The ACCC has now gotten into this!

http://www.recalls.gov.au/content/in...itemId/1084213

Update 24 March 2016

A new recall was issued today for a different problem affecting these models:

Product description:
PLU381985 Campmaster Dual Burner Butane Stove
PLU382590 Wildcountry Dual Burner Butane Stove

Identifying features:
Campmaster brand will have model No. CM2220RW or CM2220
Wildcountry brand will have model No. WC2220RW or WC2220
All affected brands will also carry AGA certification No 8221

In these models, certain components such as O-rings and control knobs have failed.

If the defect occurs, there is a risk of gas leaking and fire.

Supplier is AHM Ltd.

Update 13 may 2016

AHM Ltd—Twin Portable Butane Stove - 2 Burner Butane Stove

A new recall was issued today for a different problem affecting these models:

Campmaster CM2220, CM2220RW, CM2220SP

Festiva FT2220, FT2220RW, FT2220SP

Spinifex AN2220, AN2220RW, AN2220SP

Wild Country WC2220, WC2220RW

Oztrail OZ2220 or OZ2220RW

All affected models will also carry AGA certification No 8221.

Certain components, such as O-rings or seals, may be defective. The other defect may include misalignment of the gas cartridge.

What should consumers do?

Stop using the product immediately and return the stove to the place of purchase for a full refund.

Once returned to the place of purchase, consumers can register to receive notification regarding the purchase of a replacement cooker when available by sending an email to enquiries@ahm.co.nz or they can contact AHM Australia on 07 3208 1233.

Conclusion

You should NOT continue to use your portable butane stove. You should follow the recall instructions, as per the Product Safety Recall Notice advice from the manufacturer, as soon as it is issued.

The product manufacturers will be working on fixing the problems and new certified units should be available in the not too distant future.

[pajamajero]

I had one of these double units, fantastic, really liked it, BUT back to Wollies, no receipt, money back ($50) no problems.
I hope they bring out a new version double.
I 'accidently' forgot to put the BBQ plate in the box when returning product to Woolies. Oops

Paj