Firearms

[lino6]

Ahh Lino6.... i can tell by your profile pic that you too are a practising member of the fighting art.

Yes my brother in arms, your recollection of the "Far Cough" call has some merit, "Far Cough" is sometimes, but not so favourably used when one is trying to persuade his aggressor to reconsider his actions, if this fails then one has no other option but to go with the Farrrquu method.

Totally agree 

How is the haunting tones after the event when all that can be head at the murmurs of the witnesses of the distant trench or "far canal". You know an epic battle has happened when that wa cry is heard...

[Marschy]

This is starting to sound like a plot of an Austin Powers movie.

[t303]

G;'day Discoteddy,

Can you please let the rest of us know in what capacity you have witnessed this "lack of basic skill and judgement"

One personal episode that comes to mind (and you will probably say"so what", but it points towards a basic lack of aptitude):
several years ago I had to, on many occasions, carry police out to remote communities by air.  It was both the company's and my policy that the weapon travel with me under the seat up front.  One morning a young officer (probo I guess/hope)  came in and offered up the cased tactical tupperware for safekeeping.   As usual I asked whether the pistol was unloaded and safe.  The answer (verbatim): "Oh yeah, I removed the bolt."
The what?   "The bolt"
It's a Glock isn't it?  It doesn't have a bolt.  "Oh, you know, the barrel thing"
You mean the slide and barrel?   "Yeah, that's it!"
Ohhhkkaaayyyy...........
Bear in mind that this officer, just out of the academy, may have been as proficient in handgun use as they were ever likely to be. 

When confronted across the kitchen of a house by a man with a knife: yelling "taser, taser, taser!" and promptly putting a bullet in the suspect shows a definite lack of something.

Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't like to put up with the cr*p they get for any money, but let's not kid ourselves, there is no law written that says they are held responsible for protecting us from those that want to do us harm.
In more practical terms, it gets a bit sporty around my neighbourhood sometimes; have you tried 000 lately?  Last time I tried the drunk/psycho guy with the knife was long gone by the time they arrived.  By the time they get there with their pistols/Tasers it may be well and truly over, so best consider making your own arrangements.

And always remember that when arguing self defense, the jury will take notice of the most reliable witness still available to give evidence.   

Anyway, I'm out 

[alnjan]

I don't need guns, i'm an expert  in the ancient and mostly unkown Scottish Martial Art called "Farrrquu"...... 

This little known Martial Art mainly involves becoming intoxicated and head butting. The name Farrrquu came about as this  phrase is generally exhaled by the artist just before the mayhem is unleashed.......... then once the opponent is grounded the traditional aspect of Farrrquu, commonly known as "Glasgow Folk Dancing" comes into play......... this is preferably done in heavy boots, up and down the opponents rib cage, it looks better if one of your mates can break out some celebratory fiddle playing or some feisty bagpipes during this section............. ahh it's a beautiful thing!! 

When you mention Scottish Martial Art I automatically thought of something else

The Goodies- Ecky Thump

[discoteddy]

G;'day Discoteddy,
One personal episode that comes to mind (and you will probably say"so what", but it points towards a basic lack of aptitude):
several years ago I had to, on many occasions, carry police out to remote communities by air.  It was both the company's and my policy that the weapon travel with me under the seat up front.  One morning a young officer (probo I guess/hope)  came in and offered up the cased tactical tupperware for safekeeping.   As usual I asked whether the pistol was unloaded and safe.  The answer (verbatim): "Oh yeah, I removed the bolt."
The what?   "The bolt"
It's a Glock isn't it?  It doesn't have a bolt.  "Oh, you know, the barrel thing"
You mean the slide and barrel?   "Yeah, that's it!"
Ohhhkkaaayyyy...........
Bear in mind that this officer, just out of the academy, may have been as proficient in handgun use as they were ever likely to be. 

When confronted across the kitchen of a house by a man with a knife: yelling "taser, taser, taser!" and promptly putting a bullet in the suspect shows a definite lack of something.

Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't like to put up with the cr*p they get for any money, but let's not kid ourselves, there is no law written that says they are held responsible for protecting us from those that want to do us harm.
In more practical terms, it gets a bit sporty around my neighbourhood sometimes; have you tried 000 lately?  Last time I tried the drunk/psycho guy with the knife was long gone by the time they arrived.  By the time they get there with their pistols/Tasers it may be well and truly over, so best consider making your own arrangements.

And always remember that when arguing self defense, the jury will take notice of the most reliable witness still available to give evidence.   

Anyway, I'm out 

Sorry t303 but you may have seen this coming, so what!

Firstly I apologise to the OP for the direction this thread has taken, but I feel compelled to address the points you have raised .

Your contact with the police officer on the plane obviously had a profound effect on you, it takes several years of training for people to remember verbatim conversation, especially several years later. I would be interested to hear what state this occurred in, as to my knowledge, general duties police in NSW have never been issued with the Glock supplied plastic case ( tactical Tupperware ?) It would appear from your recollection that the officer has potentially misrepresented the firearms nomenclature , although it appears that you were satisfied that the weapon had been rendered safe. I'm unaware of any police force in Australia that does this by removing the barrel and slide from the receiver although I may be wrong?

Taser, Taser, Taser in the kitchen. I'm unaware of the incident to which this refers .  CEW/Taser was implemented as a "less than lethal tactical option". Most  Australian CEW/Taser training that I am aware of in no way suggests that CEW is appropriate when confronted with edged weapons.  Although I have read incidents of "body alarm reaction" we're police/military personnel have reacted to threat targets in this manner.

And yes there are laws written holding law enforcement personnel accountable whilst protecting society, in NSW it's called LEPRA, it also covers every other mug in the state.

I won't comment on the neighbourhood that you live in or your inference that your evidence will be the last/only evidence heard at a hearing of self defence other than to say I'm sure the poor pistol/CEW carrying coppers first problem when attending your area was working out who to protect who from



Disco teddy

[Barrabart]

When you mention Scottish Martial Art I automatically thought of something else

The Goodies- Ecky Thump

After just watching this vid you posted, i would have to say that this relates to a far more sophisticated and disciplined art than the one i speak of