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How to cope with the corona virus ..facts- not fiction.

Started by Bigfish, March 13, 2020, 07:46:30 AM

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Bigfish

Quote from: SJindustries on March 16, 2020, 03:35:14 PM
For sale as is $1000

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$1000      or 5 bog rolls... ;D
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Quote from: MuruCycles on March 16, 2020, 10:40:39 AM

she has been told that the peak infection levels are expected in AUGUST...

just let that settle in... all the closures etc... until *at least* August...

We were having that conversation this morning.

Yes, the extras we've got are good for a few weeks, but 6 months ???

All bets are off over that long, & to be honest, I wouldn't be incredibly surprised to see some form of both martial law  :police: & rationing introduced :o
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Fizzie

Quote from: alnjan on March 16, 2020, 12:08:03 PM
so the rest of us can buy our usual pack of toilet paper for the fortnight/month.

Try to get there first thing in the morning ???
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Quote from: KeithB on March 16, 2020, 01:35:44 PM
Looks like it's back to soap and water.

Have been reading quite a few comments that soap is just as, or possibly even more, effective than sanitiser!
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Quote from: edz on March 16, 2020, 04:23:04 PM
Pick a good camp spot and DIY  your own dawn service....   take a copy of the Ode and  this

But :police:, I had to have a rifle with me so I could fire a salute! :angel:
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 We are being lied to about supply of goods / shortages etc ... Local Woolies manager, yes we are getting a normal restock delivery in late this afternoon and the shelves will be fully stocked by early AM in the morning ...
Great !! Wife has pension card and goes of to the store to take advantage of the early opening  pensioner hour to get some  needed items ...Bingo shelves just as empty as the days before ..
Some one is telling porky's ...
Manager say's they got their stock and restocked, Granted the wife wasnt first through the door but she wasnt far of it .. and still no stock .
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tryagain

Quote from: edz on March 17, 2020, 06:56:51 AM
We are being lied to about supply of goods / shortages etc ... Local

Normal restock only works when normal amounts of stock has been sold.
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Quote from: tryagain on March 17, 2020, 09:16:58 AM
Normal restock only works when normal amounts of stock has been sold.
The woollies chief said yesterday sales were bigger than Christmas.
Stores start  planning christmas deliveries months in advance.
You can't quickly rearrange the orders, particularly when people cause  a run on things like toilet paper.

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Fizzie

Quote from: tryagain on March 17, 2020, 09:16:58 AM
Normal restock only works when normal amounts of stock has been sold.

Coles is putting on 5000 staff to help with restocking - not too sure just how much they're going to have to do ???
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From the Dutch PM

Mark Rutte said a mass lockdown was not feasible and the country had opted for a plan that included "controlled distribution" of COVID-19

https://www.theage.com.au/world/europe/dutch-embrace-herd-immunity-as-dire-death-warning-prompts-uk-to-change-course-20200317-p54arv.html
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plusnq

Yes. A bit like the UK idea. I'm not sure it's feasible given the long latency period before people show symptoms. We will see. It's all a  big experiment on all of us at the moment.

rockrat

Quote from: Fizzie on March 17, 2020, 11:28:06 AM
Coles is putting on 5000 staff to help with restocking - not too sure just how much they're going to have to do ???
Maybe Coles, Woolies and Aldi should just shut their doors for a few days to give them some time to restock and reassess their approach. Clearly they are trying but people have just gone crazy - I'm starting to see clearly why our politicians are so useless, they are voted in by the same people!

As for me, I might take my family out for dinner tonight and help support a small hospitality business somewhere.


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Quote from: Bird on March 17, 2020, 12:02:58 PM
From the Dutch PM

Mark Rutte said a mass lockdown was not feasible and the country had opted for a plan that included "controlled distribution" of COVID-19

https://www.theage.com.au/world/europe/dutch-embrace-herd-immunity-as-dire-death-warning-prompts-uk-to-change-course-20200317-p54arv.html

People seem shocked at this, but this is what flattening the curve has been all about, vaccines are 18months+ away, if we lockdown for that long, we will probably still see a similar % spread, just slower and over a longer period with the added likelihood of a significant financial depression to go along with it. 60odd% of us are likely to get it either way, just because the outcome isn't a nice one, dosen't mean it's not the least worse one.
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Quote from: FizzieColes is putting on 5000 staff to help with restocking - not too sure just how much they're going to have to do ???

that would be tripling the size of their workforce LMAO cant see that happening
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rockrat

Quote from: Bird on March 17, 2020, 01:10:11 PM
that would be tripling the size of their workforce LMAO cant see that happening
Less than 5% increase. Coles employs over 100,000 people.


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If the official results out of China are to be believed, it makes for somewhat promising news. They reported only 14 new cases which is pretty amazing, they have had some very severe lockdowns but it appears to be working fairly well.
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Quote from: tryagain on March 17, 2020, 02:40:59 PM
If the official results out of China are to be believed, it makes for somewhat promising news. They reported only 14 new cases which is pretty amazing, they have had some very severe lockdowns but it appears to be working fairly well.

I hope this is true...Pity their manipulation of the truth is worrying..
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Quote from: tryagain on March 17, 2020, 02:40:59 PM
If the official results out of China are to be believed, it makes for somewhat promising news. They reported only 14 new cases which is pretty amazing, they have had some very severe lockdowns but it appears to be working fairly well.

It seems from the data (if true)  that they have been succesfull.

On the other hand..... 

https://www.buzzfeed.com/alexwickham/coronavirus-uk-strategy-deaths

We have gone to a 50/50 work at work/work from home arrangement with a two week roll over with your "alternalte" staff member.

My first fortnight is in the office..... 

As our campuses are pretty empty, use of external contractors for maintenance and project work will continue as long as we can.  Socially isolating is relatively easy.

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Bird

The whole business landscape will be different after all this finishes.
1000's of business will close not to reopen.

Travel industry will be ****ed, airlines, travel agents, hotels, bus tour companies, etc..

The flow on effect will be huge...  Im more concerned about the many small businesses that wont survive - 1000's of them... like lunch shops, clothing stores/chains, you name it... suppliers to those shops will also disappear.
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plusnq

Quote from: Bird on March 17, 2020, 04:44:44 PM
The whole business landscape will be different after all this finishes.
1000's of business will close not to reopen.

Travel industry will be ****ed, airlines, travel agents, hotels, bus tour companies, etc..

The flow on effect will be huge...  Im more concerned about the many small businesses that wont survive - 1000's of them... like lunch shops, clothing stores/chains, you name it... suppliers to those shops will also disappear.

I agree. There won't be money to spend for a while either if it last 18 months as they are saying.  Business landscape will look more like the seventies than anything more recent I feel.

CTL

Quote from: Bird on March 17, 2020, 04:44:44 PM
The whole business landscape will be different after all this finishes.
1000's of business will close not to reopen.

Travel industry will be ****ed, airlines, travel agents, hotels, bus tour companies, etc..

The flow on effect will be huge...  Im more concerned about the many small businesses that wont survive - 1000's of them... like lunch shops, clothing stores/chains, you name it... suppliers to those shops will also disappear.

Nah, bit of an exaggeration I think.

Spada

Quote from: Bird on March 17, 2020, 04:44:44 PM
The whole business landscape will be different after all this finishes.

Wonder if this may be the catalyst that sees companies decentralize, and maybe instead of one big corporate "one stop shop" head office they become smaller offices of specialist teams spread around. And maybe the next couple of months of online working from home might make some companies wake up and realize that you don't all need to be in one building, or even all in the same city?

Obviously not viable for all, but whats the difference between emailing/phoning someone on the next floor V's them being in the next state? I know in the building I work in there are around 500 people, I wouldn't have the foggiest who most of them are or what they do, but we all travel from all over Brisbane to be in the same building. There is one person who I have been corresponding with for several months on and off, yet we only realized a couple of weeks ago that we work on the same bloody floor?
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