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« Reply #125 on: March 18, 2020, 07:21:43 PM »
Comparing the virus's toll with other causes of death from NYT

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/03/16/upshot/coronavirus-best-worst-death-toll-scenario.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage

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« Reply #126 on: March 18, 2020, 08:13:11 PM »
We should implement a two week lockdown on all forms of media.

If this happened 10 to 15 years ago would we have just thought we had a bad flu season??
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« Reply #127 on: March 18, 2020, 09:39:05 PM »
Comparing the virus's toll with other causes of death from NYT

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/03/16/upshot/coronavirus-best-worst-death-toll-scenario.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage
That’s pretty sobering stuff.

4% infection rate and 0.5% fatality rate still kills more Americans then the flu.

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« Reply #128 on: March 19, 2020, 09:21:08 AM »
No one going to Tassie


https://7news.com.au/lifestyle/health-wellbeing/coronavirus-australia-tasmania-shuts-down-c-752281?fbclid=IwAR2ok766S8LauwRN3DVajhJ5lnvD2VxAez6QB898fFPU2CPYhTXw8U2QqZE

The Tasmanian government has declared a state of emergency and placed tough new restrictions on mainland Australians seeking entry.

Introducing the toughest border control measures in the country, Premier Peter Gutwein announced on Thursday that anyone seeking entry to Tasmania from anywhere else in Australia from midnight Friday would now be required to self-isolate for 14 days.

“Only essential travellers will be allowed into Tasmania without going into quarantine,” he said.
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« Reply #129 on: March 19, 2020, 09:24:59 AM »
No one going to Tassie

BiL is already booked to go in August :'(

Wonder what happens there ???
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« Reply #130 on: March 19, 2020, 09:25:54 AM »
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BiL is already booked to go in August :'(

Wonder what happens there ???
same with all booked and paid travel - refundable tickets or not... Lots of questions all around.
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« Reply #131 on: March 19, 2020, 09:36:29 AM »
same with all booked and paid travel - refundable tickets or not... Lots of questions all around.

Probably not refundable but will get a credit, which is only worth something if where they booked through doesn't go bust.

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« Reply #132 on: March 19, 2020, 09:40:58 AM »
Probably not refundable but will get a credit, which is only worth something if where they booked through doesn't go bust.

You'd have to think that Spirit of Tas is fairly safe, I hope ::)

Just thinking about it - would travelling around in your own van count as "self isolation" ???
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« Reply #133 on: March 19, 2020, 09:55:47 AM »
You'd have to think that Spirit of Tas is fairly safe, I hope ::)

Safe as in its an essential service and the Government will make sure the service is still available, definitely. Safe as in the Gov would step in to bail out the business that currently running it and take on all their existing liabilities, still likely but far from certain.

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« Reply #134 on: March 19, 2020, 10:05:54 AM »
Probably not refundable

Just spoke to him & he said that they were already thinking of cancelling, but that the ship will only refund 75% (of almost $2k :'(), & that's still 6 months out! >:(

They're waiting to see what happens now ???
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« Reply #135 on: March 19, 2020, 10:06:25 AM »
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« Reply #136 on: March 19, 2020, 10:09:15 AM »
No one going to Tassie


https://7news.com.au/lifestyle/health-wellbeing/coronavirus-australia-tasmania-shuts-down-c-752281?fbclid=IwAR2ok766S8LauwRN3DVajhJ5lnvD2VxAez6QB898fFPU2CPYhTXw8U2QqZE

The Tasmanian government has declared a state of emergency and placed tough new restrictions on mainland Australians seeking entry.

Introducing the toughest border control measures in the country, Premier Peter Gutwein announced on Thursday that anyone seeking entry to Tasmania from anywhere else in Australia from midnight Friday would now be required to self-isolate for 14 days.

“Only essential travellers will be allowed into Tasmania without going into quarantine,” he said.



Lets hope its a 2 way street.  Same rules apply when a Tasmanian wants to visit the mainland. They have the virus already...

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« Reply #137 on: March 19, 2020, 10:18:10 AM »
Just spoke to him & he said that they were already thinking of cancelling, but that the ship will only refund 75% (of almost $2k :'(), & that's still 6 months out! >:(

They're waiting to see what happens now ???
I'd say cancelling now isnt the way to go... who knows what will happen by then - they rules may change and these companies may have no option but to refund properly..
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« Reply #138 on: March 19, 2020, 10:24:16 AM »
I'd say cancelling now isnt the way to go... who knows what will happen by then - they rules may change and these companies may have no option but to refund properly..

Just heard back from him ...

They've just checked the website & now offering full refund on cancellations regardless of travel dates :cup:, so they're cancelling today.
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« Reply #139 on: March 19, 2020, 11:59:49 AM »
Probably not refundable but will get a credit, which is only worth something if where they booked through doesn't go bust.

Was going to Tassie in a couple of weeks.

Spirit of Tasmania is refunding fares. Can be done on line.

Bit disappointed but can understand their thinking. Aboriginal communities can restrict outsiders, Tasmania can, the rest of the country no chance.   
 

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« Reply #140 on: March 19, 2020, 12:06:19 PM »
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the rest of the country no chance.
other countries have... why cant we?
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« Reply #141 on: March 19, 2020, 12:09:33 PM »
Close all internal borders is easily done if the wanted to.


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« Reply #142 on: March 19, 2020, 12:11:21 PM »


Just thinking about it - would travelling around in your own van count as "self isolation" ???

No. 



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« Reply #143 on: March 19, 2020, 12:14:27 PM »

Lets hope its a 2 way street.  Same rules apply when a Tasmanian wants to visit the mainland. They have the virus already...

Until now, All bar one of the 10 cases was via an overseas arrival.  The one was in  close contact with one of the overseas arrivals....

Im quite happy to quarantine if I ever want to go over to the big island, but as a 60 something male with a couple of chronic issues why would I want to endanger my health....
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« Reply #144 on: March 19, 2020, 12:26:09 PM »

Just thinking about it - would travelling around in your own van count as "self isolation" ???

Mate who managers a caravan park said they are having inquiries from the Grey Nomads etc for a two week stay in vans or cabins etc.  Said they basically not taking any tourist longer then a week.  Also said the local showgrounds are closing or not accepting any campers.   The caravan parks are saying two weeks camping at a caravan park is not 'self isolation'.   
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« Reply #145 on: March 19, 2020, 12:42:10 PM »
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« Reply #146 on: March 19, 2020, 12:46:42 PM »
Until now, All bar one of the 10 cases was via an overseas arrival.  The one was in  close contact with one of the overseas arrivals....

Im quite happy to quarantine if I ever want to go over to the big island, but as a 60 something male with a couple of chronic issues why would I want to endanger my health....

Thats exactly how the mainland got it as well...overseas travellers..

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« Reply #147 on: March 19, 2020, 12:57:23 PM »
Think of the positives - when did anyone last mention climate change ?  So now that heaps of planes are on the ground we should see the climate issues all fixed, along with the problem of over-population of the earth.  We'll see how long it takes all those tossers to come out with their theories.  Come to think of it, stupidity is spreading faster than the virus and there seems to be no vaccine for that either. Tasmania, an island off an island, . . . not a bad place to be I reckon.
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« Reply #148 on: March 19, 2020, 01:00:10 PM »
Close all internal borders is easily done if the wanted to.


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« Reply #149 on: March 19, 2020, 01:13:25 PM »
Think of the positives - when did anyone last mention climate change ?  So now that heaps of planes are on the ground we should see the climate issues all fixed, along with the problem of over-population of the earth.  We'll see how long it takes all those tossers to come out with their theories.  Come to think of it, stupidity is spreading faster than the virus and there seems to be no vaccine for that either. Tasmania, an island off an island, . . . not a bad place to be I reckon.

Still been talk about that and the theories, positive and negative about CV.   
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