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Re: How to cope with the corona virus ..facts- not fiction.
« Reply #50 on: March 15, 2020, 05:52:16 PM »
I think it is that reason the PM has said today the Schools at present will stay open for now.  Unless I read it wrong.

I would say it would at least be part of it, they probably also want to keep the economy ticking over, shutting schools would be pretty detrimental to it so they probably take that into consideration as well.

The cynical part of me thinks that even with a total lockdown, they are saying it can't be contained, so they probably don't want it to drag on for a year or two until a viable vaccine is available, rather have enough people get it to then have some herd immunity, but at a rate where they can keep a decent level of medical care. If they could keep the casualty rate to 0.25-0.5% due to availability of quality care (with most of those otherwise having limited time left anyway) it would probably be seen as a win. That's still a death toll of 35-70 thousand

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« Reply #51 on: March 15, 2020, 06:20:58 PM »
So much social media hype that's causing the panic. Saying 80% of people will get the virus does not help the situation, hence the mass panic buying of things.

Curious if it was changed to 80% of people will get the flu or catch a cold this year,  would there be the same panic.

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« Reply #52 on: March 15, 2020, 06:51:41 PM »
What I read was that 80% of the population will only have mild symptoms and may not even know they have COVID-19.

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« Reply #53 on: March 15, 2020, 07:20:39 PM »
What I read was that 80% of the population will only have mild symptoms and may not even know they have COVID-19.

Yep, this is the 80% figure I have read, for those it will likely just be like a common cold, I have read once it gets to 60%, herd immunity should kick in. Pretty sure I read that the QLD gov is expecting about 25% of people to get it, not sure what is going to stop in at that point though.

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« Reply #54 on: March 15, 2020, 07:30:44 PM »
Yep, this is the 80% figure I have read, for those it will likely just be like a common cold, I have read once it gets to 60%, herd immunity should kick in. Pretty sure I read that the QLD gov is expecting about 25% of people to get it, not sure what is going to stop in at that point though.

I suspect the population dispersal of QLD is favourable to that; it's much more evenly spread between the Brisbane/GC/SC metropolis and the regional cities, whereas NSW is skewed to the Newcastle, Sydney & Wollongong metropolitan area.

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« Reply #55 on: March 15, 2020, 08:27:55 PM »
As a single retiree I live in social isolation a lot of the time.  ;D But that's OK, that's  my choice largely..

What I can't cope with is the stupidity in the shops. My local shopping centre carpark today resembled a busy Saturday in December.

I would have thought  Australians as a rule were a bit smarter than that.   

I wonder what a bit of social isolation and travel restrictions would do for the road toll. Far more people die on the roads than this is likely to kill I'd  suggest.
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« Reply #56 on: March 15, 2020, 09:11:29 PM »



What I can't cope with is the stupidity in the shops. My local shopping centre carpark today resembled a busy Saturday in December.


You havent seen anything yet. Just watch the panic set in.
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« Reply #57 on: March 15, 2020, 09:24:45 PM »
It’s already here.


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« Reply #58 on: March 16, 2020, 05:35:37 AM »
FTFY, Edz!
I’m with you edz

Look at the countries getting on top of it. They have put in such tough laws.

People will not like it, but it works and we should do it immediately


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« Reply #59 on: March 16, 2020, 08:31:06 AM »
Nice to see Coles and Woolworths having a special time for the elderly to shop without being shoved out of the way and beaten by panic buying ****wits...

Shame its 7-8am before most would have got up.
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« Reply #60 on: March 16, 2020, 08:47:27 AM »
Just saw the same thing mentioned about IGA, but their special time is 6 - 7AM!!! :o

& if staff are usually there at 6 for a 7.00 opening, that will mean they will now need to be on deck at 5 - & does anybody think they'll be paid o/t ??? :'(
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« Reply #61 on: March 16, 2020, 10:16:00 AM »
We may have our first case..
Young chick in Sydney office VERY sick with flu type stuff.. been admitted to hospital, but no "word" yet on yes or no


Has anyone had any genuine cases at work yet?
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« Reply #62 on: March 16, 2020, 10:30:04 AM »
I cant get over the panic and chaos that is starting to be felt. Imagine if this virus was much more serious and was taking out more of the population other than the elderly and sick. The economic hurt that this is starting to cause will be felt for some time. this virus will hopefully past as quickly as it started. I understand the boarder closings but the talk of closing of businesses and schools just perplexes me. Sure if there is a positive case at a school there may be a closure to ensure the school is cleaned etc. I get that.

Maybe I am stupid , but I feel common-sense tells us that in this virus case, we need to look after the elderly and people whom are already sick. lets focus on these people and protect them and ensure they are safe. That way let the rest of the population continue on keeping our economy going and everyone employed. There are many small businesses that will never recover from this. I know of a small coffee shop that services a large cooperate building that have said if they close the building they well have to close the shop and will never reopen.

My parents are in late 60s and early 70s, we have had the conversation that maybe we should stop face to face contact in the short term to ensure their safety. If everyone uses a common-sense approach we will all be fine.
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« Reply #63 on: March 16, 2020, 10:33:16 AM »
I cant get over the panic and chaos that is starting to be felt. Imagine if this virus was much more serious and was taking out more of the population other than the elderly and sick. The economic hurt that this is starting to cause will be felt for some time. this virus will hopefully past as quickly as it started. I understand the boarder closings but the talk of closing of businesses and schools just perplexes me. Sure if there is a positive case at a school there may be a closure to ensure the school is cleaned etc. I get that.

Maybe I am stupid , but I feel common-sense tells us that in this virus case, we need to look after the elderly and people whom are already sick. lets focus on these people and protect them and ensure they are safe. That way let the rest of the population continue on keeping our economy going and everyone employed. There are many small businesses that will never recover from this. I know of a small coffee shop that services a large cooperate building that have said if they close the building they well have to close the shop and will never reopen.

My parents are in late 60s and early 70s, we have had the conversation that maybe we should stop face to face contact in the short term to ensure their safety. If everyone uses a common-sense approach we will all be fine.


We will know in a few months if that idea works as it is very similar to the measures the UK have announced. The rest of the world is trying the isolation plan. Time will tell which was the better version.

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« Reply #64 on: March 16, 2020, 10:40:39 AM »
I have a good friend that is (working) in the ER at Nepean hospital.

she has been told that the peak infection levels are expected in AUGUST...

just let that settle in... all the closures etc... until *at least* August...

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« Reply #65 on: March 16, 2020, 10:49:12 AM »
We may have our first case..
Young chick in Sydney office VERY sick with flu type stuff.. been admitted to hospital, but no "word" yet on yes or no


Has anyone had any genuine cases at work yet?


We have a number of staff that have gone off sick in the past couple of days, others that have returned from OS travel that got Dr's clearances to return to work that have now gone off sick, a couple that also attended the Southern cross Uni up here that has a reported case, as yet nothing confirmed  ..
But dealing with many hundreds of visitors daily from all over the country / world, its only a matter of time till we  take a hit .
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« Reply #66 on: March 16, 2020, 11:16:40 AM »
Quote from: wilson79
we need to look after the elderly and people whom are already sick.

You''ve seen Italy's plan for <80's.... Still cant believe that.


edit: interesting thoughts from Bill Gates - from 2014
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« Reply #67 on: March 16, 2020, 12:08:03 PM »
Just wondering, after all the dick heads went spastic over toilet paper, when supply is going to return to 'normal' so the rest of us can buy our usual pack of toilet paper for the fortnight/month. 
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« Reply #68 on: March 16, 2020, 12:13:29 PM »
Just wondering, after all the dick heads went spastic over toilet paper, when supply is going to return to 'normal' so the rest of us can buy our usual pack of toilet paper for the fortnight/month.

*** THIS ***

we're down to three rolls at home now and I'd like to do our usual purchase of a 10 pack... not a hope.

(I think there might be a 6 pack from our last remote trip, stashed in the back of the drawers in the cruiser though)

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« Reply #69 on: March 16, 2020, 12:44:48 PM »
*** THIS ***

we're down to three rolls at home now and I'd like to do our usual purchase of a 10 pack... not a hope.

(I think there might be a 6 pack from our last remote trip, stashed in the back of the drawers in the cruiser though)

That's about it
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« Reply #70 on: March 16, 2020, 01:35:44 PM »
I thought I'd make some sanitiser for a do we're having in two weeks time (if it goes ahead). You just need isopropyl alcohol and a bit of moisturiser.  Turns out that isopropyl alcohol cannot be had anywhere in Sydney and the chemists are sold out of rubbing alcohol, which is the same stuff.
Janitorial suppliers are all out and Sydney Solvents are all out in every size including 200 litre drums.
Looks like it's back to soap and water.
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« Reply #71 on: March 16, 2020, 01:48:01 PM »
Maybe use / try Metho or Shellite instead of Isopropil Alcohol   Have to look up the properties of both to see if they are ok though ... Failing that its use Over Proof Vodka or Gin as the Alcohol mix  ;D ;D

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« Reply #72 on: March 16, 2020, 02:10:22 PM »
I thought I'd make some sanitiser

Had a similar thought early this week, the wife usually has some sanitiser for the kids (easier than trying to get them to wash their hands properly) but was out, so I started looking for suppliers, got through several pages of Google searches with no luck until I found a localish paint place with 5L containers still in stock. Went straight there to grab one, as I arrived there was a guy walking out with one, managed to grab one but they are all out now too.

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« Reply #73 on: March 16, 2020, 02:23:05 PM »
Just wondering, after all the dick heads went spastic over toilet paper, when supply is going to return to 'normal' so the rest of us can buy our usual pack of toilet paper for the fortnight/month.


Might have to be prepaired to get ready to do a bit of this ..  https://www.survivopedia.com/diy-toilet-paper/   :D
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« Reply #74 on: March 16, 2020, 03:22:10 PM »
Here's a good rundown on the situation which is guaranteed to make you smile. Provided of course that you are not offended by rude words.
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