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Leadership spill happened...

Started by Bird, August 21, 2018, 09:41:30 AM

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No surprises with that outcome

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Quote from: DrewXT on August 21, 2018, 09:48:51 AM
No surprises with that outcome

You don't call a spill as PM unless you know you have the numbers, having said that with only 7 votes in it with him as the incumbent and Dutton moving to the back bench, I suspect its case of when now not if it happens again with a different result. might be a win for Turnbull but the numbers don't look good for him.
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Should start a sweep, when will we get a new PM, I call dibs on September 10th.
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Quote from: tryagain on August 21, 2018, 10:31:33 AM
Should start a sweep, when will we get a new PM, I call dibs on September 10th.

Just heard of talk of as soon as Thursday for another tilt  :o I guess if the writing is on the wall you may as well do it sooner rather than later, no point Turnbill naming a new ministry only for it to all change again shortly afterwards and giving the opposition endless ammunition, there should be at least 7 wanting to suck up to the new boss now that it looks inevitable.
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Quote from: tryagainJust heard of talk of as soon as Thursday for another tilt  :o I guess if the writing is on the wall you may as well do it sooner rather than later, no point Turnbill naming a new ministry only for it to all change again shortly afterwards and giving the opposition endless ammunition, there should be at least 7 wanting to suck up to the new boss now that it looks inevitable.
I would have thought give turnbull more rope to hang himself - hes doing well at it.
but Dutton was never the they for the job
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Quote from: Bird on August 21, 2018, 11:21:36 AM
I would have thought give turnbull more rope to hang himself - hes doing well at it.
but Dutton was never the one they, or anyone else wanted for the job

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MattNQ

I can't believe 35 of the muppets actually thought Dutton was the man for the job. The talent pool in modern politics is very, very shallow...

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Quote from: MattNQThe talent pool in modern politics is very, very shallow...
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Hookie

They reckon Turnbull called it to beat Dutton to the punch, before he'd really started working on his coup. If he'd had until Thursday it likely would have gone the other way.

When I moved to the US Howard was prime minister, then I came back to Turnbull. I don't even know which side I like less anymore.

Rumpig

There will be no stability in the government whilst the likes of that muppet Abbott are in the background knifing Turnbull in the back in revenge. If only these clowns could put in the same effort into improving the country as they do on stabbing each other in the back, we as a nation might improve instead of going backwards.
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So true Rumpig they are only concerned with themselves not about running the country
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Quote from: Rumpig on August 21, 2018, 05:57:41 PM
There will be no stability in the government whilst the likes of that muppet Abbott are in the background knifing Turnbull in the back in revenge. If only these clowns could put in the same effortinto improving the country as they do on stabbing each other in the back, we as a nation might improve instead of going backwards.

I stopped thinking a long time ago that the prime minister did anything for the good of the country. Especially for Turnbull, who is VERY rich, and is only doing it for his ego.

The idea that they or any political party does what we the public want is just a dream.. When did the public say to spend billions on foreign aid, especially when a lot of it goes to countries that don't need it ?
When was the last time the public had a say in the immigration debacle ??
Some will say WE gave them the authority by voting them in.....but those 2 issues ( among many more ) were/are never included in their election "promises"..
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glenm64

Bet ya Bill must be giggling himself silly. For an unelectable leader he might even get in.
All he has to do is keep his mouth shut and let the Libs tear themselves apart.
Then we'll see how long it takes for Labor to do the same.
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Interesting opinion from ABC news site....SPOT ON AS WELL!!!!

OPINION

MAKE no mistake — the people paid a pretty penny to sit in Canberra don't care about you.
The past decade of infuriating infighting, turmoil and civil war in both the Labor and Liberal parties ranks demonstrates that pretty clearly.
Cost of living, healthcare, decent education, employment opportunities and the stability of the economy ... oh, they talk a lot about these issues, the things that keep you up at night.
But the reality is, there's no time to figure out a meaningful solution to the many problems this country faces when they're preoccupied with destroying each other.
All these politicians really care about is clinging to power at any cost — and usually at your expense.
Malcolm Turnbull retained the leadership of the Liberal Party against a challenge by Peter Dutton,



Former PM Tony Abbott has led a campaign of destabilisation since losing the top job.

Eleven years. That's how long it's been since a sitting prime minister was able to finish a full term, from election to election, when John Howard lost to Kevin Rudd.

Since then, the Australian public has been subjected to a circus of self-interested egomaniacs letting their born-to-rule personality disorders run wild.

There was Rudd versus Gillard, then Gillard versus Rudd. We had Turnbull versus Abbott, and now Dutton versus Turnbull.

The wrecking, the undermining, the sniping, the constant attacks on each other — it's sickening. They're no better than a bunch of brawling schoolyard children.

And if you think today's vote in the party room, which Turnbull narrowly won, puts this latest furore to rest, I'm sorry to disappoint you.
There's already speculation about when the next challenge will take place.
The current spate of civil wars began when Julia Gillard knifed Kevin Rudd.

It's ridiculous. Is it any wonder a growing number of Aussies are totally fed up with the two major parties?

The next time anyone in the government, or indeed the opposition, wonders why the voter base is moving towards smaller parties or independents, they should take a good look at themselves.
When they fight and try to destroy each other, we all lost.
The war Canberra should be waging is on the skyrocketing cost of living a decent life. It should be on the fact that our wages have barely increased in years.
They should target affordable housing, jobs for your kids, health services and our security.

Aussies don't care who's running the show, as long as they get something done. And frankly, they're failing miserably.
Instead of leading, the moment the government of the day gets a whiff of voter dissatisfaction, they panic and run for the party room in a bid to turf out the person in charge for a new one.
What does this solve? It's the political equivalent of papering over some deep foundation cracks. Or, the better analogy is slapping some lipstick on a pig.

The jig is up. We see the pig and its cheap make-up. And we're bloody tired of it.

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rockrat

I'd love Turnbull to give a big stuff you to Abbott and the rest of the libs by calling a snap election. The look on the faces of some of the pollies holding marginal seats would be priceless.

Pete79

And the ABC wonders why they keep getting their funding cut and the Libs are so hellbent I'm shutting them down permanently.

When you have journalists going around writing truths like that it's pretty clear why some in Canberra only want to speak to their friends at Fox/Sky.

plusnq

Quote from: rockrat on August 21, 2018, 07:07:45 PM
I'd love Turnbull to give a big stuff you to Abbott and the rest of the libs by calling a snap election. The look on the faces of some of the pollies holding marginal seats would be priceless.

Sadly we would still have Abbott. I don't know why he bothers sometimes.

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Meh...........
Whether is local, state or federal there all a pack of peanuts.

Our local council (Noosa) are the biggest pack of Numpty pocket liners I have ever seen. All of them unemployable in private business, not that this is essential but it kind of proves the ability of most people, but desperately hanging on to their $120k positions. I used to think bring on the next election but really who ****ing cares if the current ones get voted out you just get more d^ickheads in.

We really need to get rid of at least one level of government, state seems to make sense, to get the cost of running this great country down to levels where we dont all pay above 50% tax for nothing. I would happily pay 50% tax if I thought we were getting value for our money but...............well thats never going to happen.

If you dont think your paying 50% tax well............just look at the numbers.

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Quote from: GeoffA on August 21, 2018, 08:04:08 PM
Oh look!! A political thread.....how lovely..... :cup: :cup:
Don't poke the bear. This thread will vapourise if it even slightly polarises into mayhem.  >:D
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