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In the market for caravan - overwhelming

Started by Agent009, December 15, 2017, 07:54:57 AM

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Cruiser 105Tvan

Robert. 
VK3PPC, VZU641.
2000 FZJ105r bars,
HDJ105r Bars F&R, VRS Winch, ATZ. P3's, a cupla 2 ways as well.
and 2009 Canning Tvan pushing.

callmejoe

^^^^^^^^
For who ?  :D

Older i get the less i seem to care about such things. I look at it more like.
You want to watch me shower or sit on throne with a veiw. Well that'll be the problem they'll need to live with lol.

Life's wasn't meant to be fair.
Well so I've been told. ..

Rumpig

Problem with a non ensuited  caravan is resale...inlaws just sold one recently, not only did it sell for about 4K less then they hoped to get but took ages to sell also. The majority of buyers seriously looking at getting a van, want one with an ensuite.
The smell of bacon proves aromatherapy isn't total bull$/!t

GeoffA

Quote from: Rumpig on December 17, 2017, 01:36:59 PM
Problem with a non unsuited  caravan is resale...

Agree with that ^, but it's a buyers market if you can live without....
Geoff and Kay

1999 GU TD42T wagon
2005 Coota Camper - gone, but never forgotten
2020 North Coast 15' Titanium - tandem, of course

Land Cruiser.....the Patrol that Toyota try to build.....

Rumpig

Quote from: GeoffA on December 17, 2017, 01:49:38 PM
Agree with that ^, but it's a buyers market if you can live without....
yep...hence the inlaws got 4K less then they originally wanted
The smell of bacon proves aromatherapy isn't total bull$/!t

cyberess

Quote from: Agent009 on December 15, 2017, 07:54:57 AM
I know this forum is probably more suited for camper trailers, but hoping someone can help with caravans.

We are in the market for a caravan and are finding it very overwhelming with all the different brands/models out there.

<snip>

4. Must include washing machine, ensuite and aircon

5. This will be for caravan parks only with 240v only. We will keep our camper trailer for national parks and any off-road stuff

Thats probably our list for now that we are using as a starting point. Does anyone have any feedback on above brands (or another brands)? Any to stay away from or any highly recommonded?!

4 years ago I purchased a ex rental dual axle 6 berth Swift Quattro FB Caravan --  it's a large light weight family van with a en-suite 
not quite what you are looking for as no washing machine, but it does shows it's possible to get luxury and size without weight, as I reckon quite a lot of vans are just far too heavy.

The specs of the  Swift Quattro FB Caravan is quite amazing
Berths 6
En-suite with shower and Toilet
length 26ft or 7.94 meters
Overall height 2.6m
tare 1361 kg
Towball weight approx 75kg

I have towed the across the Barkley Hwy twice Darwin to Port Macquarie, been around the East coast Brisbane to Adelaide and back to Darwin -- being ex rental goodness knows how many Kms before I owned the van

Not a bad looking van




There is a number of manufactures that do lightweight van such as
Adria http://www.apollorvsales.com.au/adria.aspx
Bailey http://www.baileyaustralia.com.au/

Happy hunting since I have just thrown in a couple of other brands.

:cheers:

Agent009

Thanks cyberess, ill check those out.

And we will be using toilet for number 1s only (no number 2s lol).

callmejoe

Quote from: Agent009 on December 18, 2017, 06:42:17 AM
Thanks cyberess, ill check those out.

And we will be using toilet for number 1s only (no number 2s lol).

And it'll smell worse. The checimals, eco friendly or not will work best with both "waste" products together. If you have the right checimals in the tank when you empty it it'll  just pour out in a liquid form ...
Life's wasn't meant to be fair.
Well so I've been told. ..

Wunderlust

In my experience to date, keep away from late 2015 onwards Coromals. Something has seriously gone downhill on the quality font. If in doubt ask on the Coromal Owners Page, that's if they don't deem your post too negative!
No Set Plan - Our Aussie Adventurehttp://www.nosetplan.com.au

trinityalyce

I'm another one supporting the ensuite, purely from the "flexibility in travel" angle. We free camp when and where we can. Ensuites are a bonus for that reason. Sometimes you might be doing a very long walk with a shovel looking for some privacy if you don't have your own facilities. Honestly, I'm kind of over that...

Resale is also a good consideration. We're buying second-hand because from the research we've done new vans seem to depreciate a little quicker than we'd like. Slows down after a while, though. We're also handy enough to do some cosmetic refurbishments if necessary, so that goes in our favour. From watching the market it appears vans with weird layouts and lacking ensuites do not sell well - some "good" vans (at least manufacturer-wise) with odd layouts have been sitting for months. If you intend to sell your van down the track, it IS worth considering.

Also re: the smell, in theory a well functioning caravan ensuite shouldn't really smell much at all, if anything.

I know my comments won't change the minds of those who detest the idea of an ensuite or find them totally unnecessary, but they are the reasons why we wouldn't buy a van without one.
Trinity (+ James + Mister Dog)
'04 TD42 GU Nissan Patrol Wagon + '06 TD42 GU Nissan Patrol Coil Cab Ute + '18 Ultimate Xplor GT Camper


www.bulldustandbackroads.com

Bird

Quote from: trinityalyceI'm another one supporting the ensuite, purely from the "flexibility in travel" angle. We free camp when and where we can. Ensuites are a bonus for that reason. Sometimes you might be doing a very long walk with a shovel looking for some privacy if you don't have your own facilities. Honestly, I'm kind of over that...

or you just put up a Shitter tent behind the van, and use a portable Shitter :) Same as nearly all camper trailers have to do. No need for shovel either.
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edz

" IMPROVISE  ADAPT   OVERCOME   and  PERSEVERE  "

Cruiser 105Tvan

Quote from: Bird on December 19, 2017, 01:47:12 PM
or you just put up a Shitter tent behind the van, and use a portable Shitter :) Same as nearly all camper trailers have to do. No need for shovel either.


Gotta have a shovel so you can muck with the fire, c'mon I'm not the only one, I've seen others as well.
Robert. 
VK3PPC, VZU641.
2000 FZJ105r bars,
HDJ105r Bars F&R, VRS Winch, ATZ. P3's, a cupla 2 ways as well.
and 2009 Canning Tvan pushing.

Bird

Quote from: Cruiser 105TvanGotta have a shovel so you can muck with the fire, c'mon I'm not the only one, I've seen others as well.
na.. just add more wood ;D
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trinityalyce

Quote from: Bird on December 19, 2017, 01:47:12 PM
or you just put up a Shitter tent behind the van, and use a portable Shitter :) Same as nearly all camper trailers have to do. No need for shovel either.

Definitely an option. We didn't like the idea of carrying around a giant bucket of poo that could potentially leak/get knocked over/etc. in transit, so we never did it. Slightly less of a concern for the caravan... at least we hope so. ;) LOL
Trinity (+ James + Mister Dog)
'04 TD42 GU Nissan Patrol Wagon + '06 TD42 GU Nissan Patrol Coil Cab Ute + '18 Ultimate Xplor GT Camper


www.bulldustandbackroads.com

Swannie

My hard walled camper has an ensuite. Never used it myself or my
Boys but the wife and daughter use it for 1's. Great in the night for them and I prefer it than if I'm at a dodgy CP
Swannie
2024 Hilux Gr Sport

Bird

Quote from: Swannieand I prefer it than if I'm at a dodgy CP
... and how often do you stay at a dodgey van park ;)  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
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Gone to a new home

Bird

Need an idea for your kitchen....


Have you ever wondered what life would be like if you installed a fully functioning kitchen on the back of the caravan? Yes, of course you have.

Well, one bloke who rolled into Karratha last week has actually done it.

We spotted this gem taking up two car bays — and a bit extra — at the Karratha shops last week.
Complete with storage cabinets, cooktop, double-basin sink and meal prep area, this bumper kitchen latched onto the back of the caravan answers all your culinary needs.

It is for the discerning grey nomad who feels the need for a five course meal while on the road, and, judging by the size of the satellite dish, you will be able to get food inspo from My Kitchen Rules in every corner of Australia.

http://www.pilbaranews.com.au/?news%2Fpilbara-news%2Fcheck-out-this-wa-nomads-caravan-kitchen-ng-b88704276z
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cyberess

Wow that's a lot of weight at the back of the van, just the thing for the van to pick up the death wobbles, on over taking.

:cheers:

Bird

Quote from: cyberessWow that's a lot of weight at the back of the van, just the thing for the van to pick up the death wobbles, on over taking.

LOL.. I was thinking spot the defects... There'd have to be lots of illegal in that, apart from obscured # plate LOL

but looks like its been there a long time... Wonder if they are parked, or setup for the night in the carpark ;)
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glenm64

Quote from: Bird on January 11, 2018, 03:35:31 PM
Need an idea for your kitchen....


Have you ever wondered what life would be like if you installed a fully functioning kitchen on the back of the caravan? Yes, of course you have.

Well, one bloke who rolled into Karratha last week has actually done it.

We spotted this gem taking up two car bays — and a bit extra — at the Karratha shops last week.
Complete with storage cabinets, cooktop, double-basin sink and meal prep area, this bumper kitchen latched onto the back of the caravan answers all your culinary needs.

It is for the discerning grey nomad who feels the need for a five course meal while on the road, and, judging by the size of the satellite dish, you will be able to get food inspo from My Kitchen Rules in every corner of Australia.

http://www.pilbaranews.com.au/?news%2Fpilbara-news%2Fcheck-out-this-wa-nomads-caravan-kitchen-ng-b88704276z
That is funny as but also inspiring. Must really love their bbq.

Cheers Glen

There's a big difference between kneeling down
......... and bending over.

Bird

Quote from: glenm64 on January 11, 2018, 07:16:07 PM
That is funny as but also inspiring. Must really love their bbq.

Cheers Glen
imagine being behind it, and watching the flex in it over a bumpy road - there'd be move movement in that than dolly parton doing star jumps... You'd be Shitting hot coals thinking your going to run it over eventually!
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trinityalyce

Never ceases to amaze me what people do to their vans. The old "just because you can doesn't mean you should" comment seems to ring true here...
Trinity (+ James + Mister Dog)
'04 TD42 GU Nissan Patrol Wagon + '06 TD42 GU Nissan Patrol Coil Cab Ute + '18 Ultimate Xplor GT Camper


www.bulldustandbackroads.com

macca

Quote from: Bird on January 11, 2018, 03:35:31 PM
Need an idea for your kitchen....


Have you ever wondered what life would be like if you installed a fully functioning kitchen on the back of the caravan? Yes, of course you have.

Well, one bloke who rolled into Karratha last week has actually done it.

We spotted this gem taking up two car bays — and a bit extra — at the Karratha shops last week.
Complete with storage cabinets, cooktop, double-basin sink and meal prep area, this bumper kitchen latched onto the back of the caravan answers all your culinary needs.

It is for the discerning grey nomad who feels the need for a five course meal while on the road, and, judging by the size of the satellite dish, you will be able to get food inspo from My Kitchen Rules in every corner of Australia.

http://www.pilbaranews.com.au/?news%2Fpilbara-news%2Fcheck-out-this-wa-nomads-caravan-kitchen-ng-b88704276z
What a fantasic idea, imagine how  much that has reduced the ball weight, now all i got to do is work out what i can put on the drawbar to get back to the industry standard six million kilogram tow ball weight

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MadMarv

Not sure if you mentioned kids or not but depending on ages off them maybee a small say 3 person tent for them to sleep in takes bugger all to setup and packs away small , that way you could go with a smaller van . Inside toilets can be quite clean ... we had a casset toilet in a motorhome in Tassie and no smells at all , just need to use correct chemical stuff.
Regards

Marv