Kulkyne Kampers gone into voluntary administration.

Started by KathyL, April 05, 2016, 10:32:34 PM

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KathyL

Mildura's Kulkyne Kampers went into voluntary administration on Friday with 13 staff losing their jobs - I feel really sorry for the staff and for the Kulkyne customers who had already paid for stuff but not yet received it.

See http://www.sunraysiadaily.com.au/story/3830108/camping-shop-closes-staff-given-one-days-notice-of-axings-as-administrator-appointed/?cs=4167
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Not good for all. Must have been too hard keeping up with the big stores. Fingers crossed for all affected.
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Bosses sound like nice people to work for. No care or respect for the staff that were there to make them money, voluntary administration doesn't happen overnight.
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scrapsD40

Feeling sad and somewhat lucky.

Sad for everyone involved.

Lucky for me as I was days away from ordering a swag online that I may never have received

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Snapman007

That is fkd!

Betcha they've said to staff " We're going to trade out of it".
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tryagain

Quote from: Snapman007 on April 06, 2016, 09:29:19 AM
That is fkd!
Betcha they've said to staff " We're going to trade out of it".
Quote from: Snapman007 on April 06, 2016, 09:29:19 AM
Bosses sound like nice people to work for. No care or respect for the staff that were there to make them money, voluntary administration doesn't happen overnight.
I think it can be a bit of a catch 22, if they let the word out that they are really struggling then it can stop potential orders which can kill of a struggling company that was otherwise capable of making it through a rough patch. I have known a few SME's that have gone bust and none of the owners have been left better of than the employees, Most have been reinvesting their funds to keep their business afloat and walk away with absolutely nothing, employees get their entitlements and have a wad of super towards their retirement where as the owners generally have nothing to show for their years of effort and have put in above and beyond what an employee has. I don't know the situation here but I feel sorry for all involved and on the basis of the information posted here don't think vilifying the owners is really warranted. To say the staff were there to make the owners money also seems quite skewed, I'd be pretty sure they went to work to earn money. Not good for anyone involved.
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Snapman007

Of course the employees went there to make money, that's obvious to all but I'm positive the owners didn't have them there to loose money.

As for the owners loosing more than the employees, if they are silly enough to have their personal assets unprotected they really should think twice about running a business.

The reason this irks me with the employees being left in the dark, just imagine if you had been saving for a house deposit for the last 10 years and yesterday you put that deposit down on a new house that you now have no way of paying and loose the lot.
27 years ago I was working for a small building company and I was going to buy a new/used car. The car was bought to my work for me to look at. My boss asked me if I was going to buy it, told him I was going after work to sign the finance papers, he said there's no need to rush into it and take a couple days to think about it. After work he asks me again about the car and I told him I'm on my way to sign for it. He then says he can get in a lot of trouble for what he's about to tell me but the administrators will be here in the morning. He saved me from an $18k contract that I wouldnt be able to service. That's how you treat employees.
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rossm

That is Sad for the workers.

Often looked at their website and called in at the shop while in Mildura last year looking for something.

Hope the next story we read isn't that there is no money to meet their entitlements and their superannuation has not been paid,  something which is all to common in business failures these days. 

The punter

Quote from: rossm on April 06, 2016, 11:13:44 AM
That is Sad for the workers.

Often looked at their website and called in at the shop while in Mildura last year looking for something.

Hope the next story we read isn't that there is no money to meet their entitlements and their superannuation has not been paid,  something which is all to common in business failures these days.

Not any more, entitlements are guaranteed by the govt

https://www.employment.gov.au/fair-entitlements-guarantee-feg
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rossm

Quote from: The punter on April 06, 2016, 11:16:31 AM
Not any more, entitlements are guaranteed by the govt

https://www.employment.gov.au/fair-entitlements-guarantee-feg

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lukeycat

Makes you wonder if they put too much into their drifters creek campers which I assume are Chinese imports? Maybe should have stuck to the other items they sold sucks either way with people loosing their jobs etc.


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tryagain

Quote from: Snapman007 on April 06, 2016, 11:05:54 AM
Of course the employees went there to make money, that's obvious to all but I'm positive the owners didn't have them there to loose money.
I'm sure that wasn't the initial plan however they obviously kept them there whilst they were.
Quote from: Snapman007 on April 06, 2016, 11:05:54 AMAs for the owners loosing more than the employees, if they are silly enough to have their personal assets unprotected they really should think twice about running a business.
I know of a builder who sold all they had to prop up the business, knew if they couldn't turn it around they wouldn't be comfortable keeping everything knowing that others could/would loose theirs, yet still copped it on-line from people thinking they were sailing away into the sunset. I guess the line between integrity and silly varies on perception. 
Quote from: Snapman007 on April 06, 2016, 11:05:54 AM
That's how you treat employees.
Yep was the decent thing to do, I think many would do the same in a similar situation though. There is however good reasons as your boss at the time alluded to that generally they don't.
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Quote from: Bird on April 06, 2016, 09:24:34 AM
website still takes orders... :( That's ****ed.

Quote from: Snapman007 on April 06, 2016, 09:29:19 AM
That is fkd!

Betcha they've said to staff " We're going to trade out of it".

No that's receivership.

No better time to buy as any purchase is now granateed by the administrator. Thought you'd all know that seeing everybody seems to be an expert on who will get what and who Won't?

Additionally those who used credit cards for purchases not recieved need to see there bank.
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Malcolm Tugless

Came across their gear often when sourcing items on the internet, but was never tempted to purchase from them on account of the pricing. Anyway it seems that they may have been struggling for a while .......

http://www.productreview.com.au/p/kulkyne-kampers.html


slcs78

Pretty daming reviews, particularly from the start of this year. Looks like it's been coming for a while
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Quote from: Malcolm TuglessAnyway it seems that they may have been struggling for a while .......
http://www.productreview.com.au/p/kulkyne-kampers.html
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smartyingreen

Have been a happy customer for the last 5 years. Sad to see another small business go down like this.

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Quote from: smartyingreen on April 07, 2016, 10:52:33 PM
Have been a happy customer for the last 5 years. Sad to see another small business go down like this.

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Same for me. Another good one gone

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J.R

I have purchased a single pole touring tent and never had a problem with purchase or delivery.

Seems company has gone tits up.

richo9923

As well as other small stuff I purchased my Oztent RV set up through these guys a few years back when they were on the main road through Red Cliffs, I took a road trip from Melbourne for the simple fact that I got a RV 3 with side walls and deluxe front (so I have two rooms) for less than what Oztent were selling just the tent for, I couldn't understand how they could beat the manufacturer on price by that much, I also used their website sale to get my Waeco CFX 50 for less than $1000 with bag and stand from Anaconda on their price match.



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smartyingreen

Quote from: Bird on June 17, 2016, 11:12:49 PM
Interesting their website now diverts to

http://www.drifterscreek.com.au/
Funny MMBlue was only telling me this Wednesday.

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