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Quote from: tk421 on February 10, 2016, 11:53:31 AM
Your old mate doesn't know his road rules:

ROAD TRAFFIC CODE 2000 - REG 213

213 .         Riding in bicycle lane

                Wherever a bicycle lane is provided as part of a carriageway, and is in a reasonable condition for use, a rider of a bicycle shall use that portion of a carriageway and no other.


        Modified penalty: 1 PU

He is aware of the rules but the cycle way in question  was not a bike carriageway on the left of the road but rather a seperate concrete cycle path some 8 ft to the side of the road with a seperate grass verge separating the road from the cycle path.

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There are a couple of ummm...bike ways near me that I would never trust my bike on. Poorly maintained with lots of crap dropped by pedestrians...seriously how hard is it to find a bin!

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Quote from: NewieCamper on February 10, 2016, 12:29:10 PM
I'm not familiar with that road, and can only comment on what I've seen on streetview. If you look at the description of a bicycle lane, you might find that the path you refer to is not a bike lane. It is separated, so not part of the carriageway. It appears to be a sharepath although a sharepath is able to be used by bicycles it is not a bike lane.

A concrete path like that is uncomfortable to ride on a road bike due to the construction joints, they create bumps so assuming the bike was a road bike the path is not in a reasonable condition compared to the road. I'd probably ride it on a mountain bike, but a road bike I'd have to assess before trying it.

Yes, it's getting picky, but that is what the law does.

Did that cyclist actually hold anyone up for a significant amount of time (minutes, not seconds)? Is the road windy and makes the cyclist difficult to see on approach? Is it that busy there is no option to pass safely? It certainly appears to be a seaside town

The road in question is a single lane in each direction, divided by a double unbroken line for the length of the rd , this would be due to the blind corners. The section we encountered the bike was on a blind bend, they cycle heading north and we  South,  The cars are attempting to pass safely  but due to the road he was holding up in excess of 10 cars . The bike way is concrete but it is intended for bikes , and maybe it was placed there to make the road safer for both cars and bikes. If I considered that the road was to bumpy in my car I am not allowed to drive on your smooth grass nature strip, I may adjust my driving style to suit the conditions.

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Quote from: rags on February 10, 2016, 08:33:20 PM
The road in question is a single lane in each direction, divided by a double unbroken line for the length of the rd , this would be due to the blind corners. The section we encountered the bike was on a blind bend, they cycle heading north and we  South,  The cars are attempting to pass safely  but due to the road he was holding up in excess of 10 cars . The bike way is concrete but it is intended for bikes , and maybe it was placed there to make the road safer for both cars and bikes. If I considered that the road was to bumpy in my car I am not allowed to drive on your smooth grass nature strip, I may adjust my driving style to suit the conditions.

Hmmmm sometimes i think people forget they are called ROAD bikes.
Seriously??? It's dangerous and illegal to drive on the nature strip. A road bike on the road... soooooooo unheard of... oh wait, it's legal too. And, you can't adjust your riding style on a road bike to absorb steel, glass and tools. It's nowhere near the same things.
It really doesn't matter does it- no matter how much things are explained and no matter how much evidence is put before some people they are just gonna hate cyclists and try to make up all sorts of crap to justify it. Even though that cyclist held people up you still got to your destination faster than if that cyclist and his MAMIL mates were driving cars.
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Quote from: rags on February 10, 2016, 08:18:36 PM
He is aware of the rules but the cycle way in question  was not a bike carriageway on the left of the road but rather a seperate concrete cycle path some 8 ft to the side of the road with a seperate grass verge separating the road from the cycle path.

We get this near where i live. there is a shared running/walking/bike path 10-15 metres away from the road and diverts about 2 klm longer than the road and i constantly get yelled at "ride on the f'ing bike path - IT'S THE LAW!!!" argh. Even when there's no-one else on the road it still happens. yes, the bike lane referred to in the law is one that is part of the road. We have a few around here but the police have said they will never book anyone around here for not using them - a mountain bike's handlebars are wider than the cycleway. lol. cars park in them and even if they don't the mirrors stick out in to the lane. 
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Quote from: WCN_Bren on February 10, 2016, 08:48:05 PM
Hmmmm sometimes i think people forget they are called ROAD bikes.
Seriously??? It's dangerous and illegal to drive on the nature strip. A road bike on the road... soooooooo unheard of... oh wait, it's legal too. And, you can't adjust your riding style on a road bike to absorb steel, glass and tools. It's nowhere near the same things.
It really doesn't matter does it- no matter how much things are explained and no matter how much evidence is put before some people they are just gonna hate cyclists and try to make up all sorts of crap to justify it. Even though that cyclist held people up you still got to your destination faster than if that cyclist and his MAMIL mates were driving cars.

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Ahh well this thread has ground to a messy roundabout of polarised and narrow vision opinion. I thought I'd throw a great alternate solution in the mix but even then got confused with a troll. Well enough is enough. This thread has descended into a pissing match that is not in the spirit of this forum.
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