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Looking for a new tow vehicle to replace the X-trail...$70K max and New!!!

Started by Topender, October 21, 2015, 10:31:36 PM

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What New 4x4 / SUV would you buy if you had $60K to $70 spend?

New Toyota Prado
48 (47.5%)
New Ford Everest
12 (11.9%)
New Toyota Fortuner
9 (8.9%)
New Mitsubishi Pajero Sport (Challenger)
9 (8.9%)
Other.  Leave a comment with your suggestion
20 (19.8%)
Jeep Grand Cherokee
3 (3%)

Total Members Voted: 100

Topender

As the Subject and Question for the Poll suggests....what would you choose and why?  I know I know, I've been around here long enough to know where this thread is headed but I've been waiting 18months for all of the above vehicles to be released (the mitsi is soon) and will be upgrading in the next 6 months or sooner.

Now the dilemma is the X-trail has and is a great little bus.  It's great on fuel, tows fantastic for a car it's size and believe it or not is quite capable off road in the right hands.  We want a little more luxury and room, better off road ability (especially towing the Swan), increased towing capacity and above all not much more fuel use than we are used to.

Go...flame suit on!  >:D >:D >:D

Dave :cheers:
Nissan X-trail TL dci & 2012 Jayco Outback Swan

maximage

What about option 5 ... Pajero? More powerful and more direct handling than a Prado.

Topender

When they make a "new" Pajero I'll already have bought something else.  I'm after new tech. not ten year old tech.

Dave
Nissan X-trail TL dci & 2012 Jayco Outback Swan

maximage

Understandable angle, but as mentioned that "10 year old tech" still has more power than a Prado. And also no DPF. Not sure if the other cars on the list are hamstrung by them or not, but I would take that into account whatever you buy.

Topender

Quote from: maximage on October 21, 2015, 11:21:07 PM
Understandable angle, but as mentioned that "10 year old tech" still has more power than a Prado. And also no DPF. Not sure if the other cars on the list are hamstrung by them or not, but I would take that into account whatever you buy.

DPF's are nothing to be scared of.  My X-trail has one and as long as you service correctly and drive it as it should be DPF's are fine.  I wouldn't go out of my way to choose a vehicle with one but they are a fact of life now as most new cars have them and like I said I've lived with one for the last 6 years so happy to go either way.  Power isn't everything either.

Dave
Nissan X-trail TL dci & 2012 Jayco Outback Swan

noel_w

I would be looking at a Y62 Patrol. Some bargains to be had out there.
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Bill

Come Febuary I will be in the same boat as you.
At this point it is between the Prado and Challanger for me.
I have driven both with and without my camper trailer in tow.
I have also priced both with the specs I will be wanting.
So far the Challanger is ahead for me.
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New SsangYong Rexton. Will do the job easily. Very comfortable, excellent fuel economy and probably the only 4WD that is appropriately priced in Australia.  ;D

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scblack

Topender, why not consider a dual cab ute?

As you know, I just bought a Forester diesel, but if I had my time back I would probably be driving a VW Amarok. If you go for a Highline they are luxurious enough, drive close enough to a large wagon, fuel use is not a massive increase on our size car and even though it has no low range off road use is very capable.

For camping I now see them as near perfect: tow well, good offroad, but prime in my mind is you can just load up the tray with camping gear having loads more space than a wagon and just take off. Much more convenient than a wagon I think.

My 2c.
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rotare

Each to their own I guess, but picking a brand new untested model of anything reminds me of the old saying 'the leading edge is sometimes the bleeding edge'.....

I guess someone has to be the guinea pig for the rest of us  ;D

Darcy7

I'd look at the Holden Colorado wagon or the Isuzu MUX.

I test drove the Colorado and thought it was a pretty good mid size 4wd.


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Isuzumu

I think you have probably missed the vehicle that is getting great reviews for reliability, great off road and price, and with $70K to spend you will have a lot for extras. So a Isuzu MUX LST @ below $50K you will not go wrong. We have now done 95K in our D.Max and not one problem, the GRR twice plus heaps of towing.
An article I was reading about all the twin cabs (new ones) this is for 0-100 KPH Ford Ranger 11.1, Navara 11.3 D.Max and Colorado 11.8 Amarok 12.2 Triton BT 50 12.4 and the Hilux, new one a distant last at 13.5. So do not under estimate the MUX with it low 380 NM.
Cheers Bruce
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scarpsD40


Quote from: scblack on October 22, 2015, 07:38:20 AM
Topender, why not consider a dual cab ute?

As you know, I just bought a Forester diesel, but if I had my time back I would probably be driving a VW Amarok. If you go for a Highline they are luxurious enough, drive close enough to a large wagon, fuel use is not a massive increase on our size car and even though it has no low range off road use is very capable.

For camping I now see them as near perfect: tow well, good offroad, but prime in my mind is you can just load up the tray with camping gear having loads more space than a wagon and just take off. Much more convenient than a wagon I think.

My 2c.
agree, I'm also reading great things about the Mazda BT50's. Apparently a great tow vehicle with the bigger pot.

Julian Kaye


Go with the Prado. With a few mods and the standard 150 litre tank it is a weapon, and you will plenty of change from $70k

Bird

Quote from: TopenderI'm after new tech. not ten year old tech.

Dave
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scblack

Quote from: scarpsD40 on October 22, 2015, 08:43:10 AM
agree, I'm also reading great things about the Mazda BT50's. Apparently a great tow vehicle with the bigger pot.
Yep, my brother in law has a new BT-50 he picked up a month ago and he's very happy with it.
VW Amarok Highline 2016
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Bird

Was told the new engine in the new Prado is the old 2.8 same as Hilux - anyone know yes or no?
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KingBilly

Well it's a 2.8 but know nothing of its history.  Toyota do like to save money though  ;D. Took them 10 years to update the Hilux.

KB

Isuzumu

Quote from: Bird on October 22, 2015, 09:26:46 AM
Was told the new engine in the new Prado is the old 2.8 same as Hilux - anyone know yes or no?

Probably a little different Bird like now Euro 5 instead of Euro 0  :D ;D
Cheers Bruce
2012 Isuzu D.Max
1994 Isuzu Mu
2011 Jayco 17.55 Outback with Cruisemaster Independent Air Suspension
Off road trailer full of camping gear.

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scarpsD40


Quote from: Isuzumu on October 22, 2015, 09:39:07 AM
Probably a little different Bird like now Euro 5 instead of Euro 0  :D ;D
so not a current VW engine then;D

tk421

Quote from: Bird on October 22, 2015, 09:26:46 AM
Was told the new engine in the new Prado is the old 2.8 same as Hilux - anyone know yes or no?

Brand New engine designated 1GD-FTV not the old 1KD in the Hilux. Euro 5 with DPF

http://www.toyota.com.au/news/high-torque-diesel-engine-to-power-toyota-prado
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callmejoe

X3.

Go the petrol y62. Ti.(2015 build) has better options then the 2012 build. Drive away under $70,000....

you wont regret it.

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