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Started by Robbo, July 30, 2015, 03:32:38 PM

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Quote from: Jasman on July 30, 2015, 10:36:35 PM
Personally, I'll wait for SP1.  Let the early adopters work out the bugs I reckon.
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Quote from: Moggy on July 30, 2015, 09:47:28 PM
Will W10 work with the multitude of programs i have? Eg, Quickbooks. Photoshop, Illustrator etc. I seem to remember an issue with W8 for Quickbooks.  Plus any cad programs?
Think I'll probably delay install until i hear about all the disaster stories.

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paceman

Quote from: Jasman on July 30, 2015, 10:36:35 PM
Personally, I'll wait for SP1.  Let the early adopters work out the bugs I reckon.

the way microsoft are talking, there might not be a service pack.

it seems that it will a continuous stream of updates, not just one big hit of bug fixes and updates...

paceman

Quote from: Moggy on July 30, 2015, 09:47:28 PM
Will W10 work with the multitude of programs i have? Eg, Quickbooks. Photoshop, Illustrator etc. I seem to remember an issue with W8 for Quickbooks.  Plus any cad programs?
Think I'll probably delay install until i hear about all the disaster stories.

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the general advice is that if it works in windows 7 and 8, it will work with windows 10...

a quick search on the vendor's website should be all you need to confirm...

but, YMMV...

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Quote from: paceman on July 31, 2015, 06:17:37 AM
the way microsoft are talking, there might not be a service pack.

it seems that it will a continuous stream of updates, not just one big hit of bug fixes and updates...

x2 'evergreen' is the term
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paceman

here's a few videos that might help those with questions about windows 10...

http://www.hanselman.com/blog/GettingStartedWithWindows10.aspx

Moggy

^^^^^ Good vids. Will have to watch all before upgrade.
How is W10 likely to work with multiple monitors  i have 3 screens on my main machine?

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paceman

Quote from: Moggy on July 31, 2015, 07:41:45 AM
^^^^^ Good vids. Will have to watch all before upgrade.
How is W10 likely to work with multiple monitors  i have 3 screens on my main machine?

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should work the same...  windows 10 has features that allow for better snapping of open windows to different areas of each screen...

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I think you will find nothing is free from Microsoft. After 12 months there is a subscription fee to use the program.


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Quote from: Vickypoint on July 31, 2015, 08:01:24 AM
I think you will find nothing is free from Microsoft. After 12 months there is a subscription fee to use the program.

I think you'll find you're wrong.
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paceman

Quote from: Vickypoint on July 31, 2015, 08:01:24 AM
I think you will find nothing is free from Microsoft. After 12 months there is a subscription fee to use the program.


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if you are eligible for the free upgrade on a PC/laptop/tablet and you install it, Windows 10 will be free and supported for the life of the machine that it was installed on.

you have one year to access this free upgrade.  after that, you will have to pay for a Windows 10 license.

no subscription for Windows 10.

more info here (in plain language, not microsoft-speak):

http://www.howtogeek.com/220957/no-windows-10-won%E2%80%99t-require-a-subscription-heres-how-microsoft-plans-on-making-money-instead/

relevant quote below (emphasis mine):

If you do upgrade within the first year, you get Windows 10 for free, permanently. You don't have to pay anything. Even after it's been a year, your Windows 10 installation will continue working and receiving updates as normal. You won't have to pay for some sort of Windows 10 subscription or fee to continue using it, and you'll even get any new features Microsoft adds.



plus, the upgrade is optional... you don't have to do it if you don't want to...

Moggy

I was just watching the vids from Paceman above & i noticed on the one about the tour of W10, if he wanted to remove the W8 type menu, then once he clicked to change it said he had to sign out & then sign back in for the change to happen.

Does this mean you have to be signed into MS for W10 to work ???

If thats the case, i dont think i'll be upgrading anytime soon. Whilst i dont have any state secrets, hackers have proven they can get just about anywhere & this may be the ultimate challenge
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paceman

Quote from: Moggy on July 31, 2015, 08:21:59 AM
I was just watching the vids from Paceman above & i noticed on the one about the tour of W10, if he wanted to remove the W8 type menu, then once he clicked to change it said he had to sign out & then sign back in for the change to happen.

Does this mean you have to be signed into MS for W10 to work ???

If thats the case, i dont think i'll be upgrading anytime soon. Whilst i dont have any state secrets, hackers have proven they can get just about anywhere & this may be the ultimate challenge

scott (the guy in the videos) is a microsoft employee, so he most likely has a microsoft account to take advantage of microsoft service offerings (onedrive, etc).

i don't think a microsoft account is required for use with windows 10:

https://www.thurrott.com/windows/windows-10/4260/windows-10-drops-reliance-on-microsoft-account


here's a good installation faq:

http://winsupersite.com/windows-10/windows-10-upgrade-and-installation-faq-we-figured-out-who-pays-and-who-doesnt


specific question from article above:

Q. Do I need to use a Microsoft Account to upgrade my Windows 7 (with Service Pack 1) or Windows 8 (with windows 8.1 Update) system to Windows 10?

A. NO



Kangaron

Anyone got Outlook as their main email proggy?
did it migrate everything over ok, or is a fresh install of Office required.

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Quote from: Kangaron on July 31, 2015, 09:12:35 AM
Anyone got Outlook as their main email proggy?
did it migrate everything over ok, or is a fresh install of Office required.

Yep, yep and no :)
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gronk

I hope it works OK on my "old" 32 bit laptop !!
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WilSurf

Still waiting for the download of Windows10 on my desktop.
I pulled out my laptop to see if MYOB 2013 could be installed.
I need SP3 for, wait for it, XP.  ;D
But I couldn't get I connected to internet.
Will try again another day.
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paceman

Quote from: WilSurf on July 31, 2015, 10:19:47 AM
Still waiting for the download of Windows10 on my desktop.
I pulled out my laptop to see if MYOB 2013 could be installed.
I need SP3 for, wait for it, XP.  ;D
But I couldn't get I connected to internet.
Will try again another day.

not sure whether you know, but no free upgrade from windows xp...

Kangaron

one last questions, can you just run a classic interface and turn all the Shit off

paceman

Quote from: Kangaron on July 31, 2015, 01:35:49 PM
one last questions, can you just run a classic interface and turn all the Shit off

maybe something like this might help?

http://www.stardock.com/products/start10/

Kangaron

Every other windows platform that I have owned [ now on 7] has the option to run at classic.
I don't need transparent windows that slide across the screen etc etc
I need not tiles, gizmos, auto reporting of where I am, the weather etc.
Every install I do I get rid of excess crap like media player, messenger, that live Shit etc
I'll give it a try and see what happens.
Can always format.

D4D

Hmmm right-click show-properties no more worky with Edge...
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CC2005

I'm a little dubious to do a W10 upgrade on an OS that may have underlying issues.  So I would assume it would be best to do a clean install of everything now prior to the upgrade, just in case the new OS carries over some legacy issues from the old OS.

After your free upgrade, I'm wondering what will happen "if" your computer screws up and you need to format and do a clean install.  Do they give you a licence key so that you can do a fresh install, I hope so.  Or do you then have to fork out the $119.00 for a new user licence?

Eventually a time will come to upgrade to W10, or maybe to an Ubuntu version, or back windows 3.XX.

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MrCruza

If you don't want to wait, or prefer to do a clean install, here's how you can download the install ISO.

Download Windows 10

Here's a pretty good review of Win10

Windows 10 review
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