Do you Use or *Need* a Chainsaw

[GGV8Cruza]

We carry a saw at all times and especially in the Vic high country. Have got us out of trouble many times, also helped to cook the occasional roast dinner. Common sense guys, all Parks people I have come across have never had a problem.

GG

[shadmorgon]

<duggie wrote, in part> I am not sure about National Park rules in other states but in Queensland the regs states : " Collection of firewood and the use of chainsaws are prohibited. "
[....]

... an' no fire pits, eh?
Like, kitchen duty only?

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Or get a permit from National Parks allowing you to carry and possess, NOT USE you cutting equipment in a National Park while you are touring the countryside.
[/quote]
/cough
SHAD nebba dun ryt'd nuffin bowd dat, brutha ;-/

Far as I am aware you can carry what you like in QLD... just doan get caught using it or been seen (interpreted as) as having used it.
Like lures on fishing rods, and c'saw dust beside the firehole.

Private or State Lands I get me own wood offsite and usually stuff
that does not grow where I am headed...saves a lot of argument
from those who would bother with such trivia.

Point of contention with Hewy, avatol and others is this;
Too often these days the default position by 'authorities' is that of
assumed guilt by conclusion - their judgement.  Like... "you cooking fresh fish you been fishing" and "that's new cut timber your saw is warm, you cut down a tree".
These Laws are created 'cos at some point in history some d'head caused a problem for others in that space - pick anything, the trusim applies.
The mistake we make is in taking the defensive when yet another d'head stuck into a uniform chooses to ruin your day. Thankfully
they are thin on the ground... usually only in the Office issuing permits.
"Defensive" is accepting the assumption of wrong doing BEFORE
any breach is commited, like "oh faaark, carnt take the chainsaw 'cos
maybe it's not allowed".
Faaark 'em 'n' the horse they ride in on.

Australia is losing it, I tellya, losing it. The Breaker - a POM, by the way - died for nothing, likewise Peter Lalor.
 

I think some of us are getting our nickers in a knot over nothing. I have just tried looking up sites for national parks in Qld, NSW, WA, SA and NT and there is no mention of any of the problems with carrying chainsaws or axes. I plan on continuing the way I have for many years. I carry an axe, may carry a chainsaw in the future, take firewood with me on a short trip, and collect it on the side of the road when I run out. Would never consider collecting it in a park. Until I know of someone first hand who has a problem with being pinged for a chainsaw in their possession I will continue with my old habits.
To me it is as someone has said here. If you follow the rules and keep a low profile there are no problems. If you have a campfire in a park keep it small and there are no dramas.
I liken it to a worry I had when we visited Cape York a couple of years ago in relation to alcohol. Had heard horror stories about fines if you take too much, but like the chainsaw I believe they are just stories.

Meself I am young enough, like, to have had the experience of paying
$1:00 to 'register' my WIN 30:30 in the Ayer's Rock park.. despite me NT "licence to carry". Point being, go hard "doing the right thing".. you will send yourself spare discovering and complying with all the *crap* tin god pedants will get their rocks off on.
Too often today - as others indicate - we, the thinking traveller, hide in our foxholes believing we may be guilty of something. It does not help that the default position of Authorites ( loose use) is to play
on that guilt in putting their predisposition we (the Great Unwashed) are the bad guys.
The stuff being discussed here is largely Regulation, not Law.
Push come to shove.... quote the Magna Carta "Rights of the Freeman", it's worked for some :-)
FYI... my experience over some years of seeing "grog into the Cape" is those
idots who were swapping booze for ice. The kneejerk was to build a new Regulation. Whatever, unless you have connections the Cape is largely rooted... but still they come, in hoards. That's Okay, too ;-D


... maybe that's enough for a Sat. night rant ?
/shuckles


Shad -- in Agri areas come clean leave clean


-- ridin de desert ship wif no saddle

[Kangaron]

What a load of Shite to a simple question by the OP

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[avotrol]

"Riding the desert ship with no saddle" Couldn't have put it better myself!!!

[Hewy54]

I am sure you have made some good points shadmorgon, I just don't seem to be able to understand them.
From the original post, I have not needed to carry a chainsaw before as we just chucked the wood collected on top of the KK. Now we have the Vista we will need to either buy bagged wood for the top of the car or cut wood to fit rack. Am looking at a battery chainsaw, or even a battery circular saw.

[oldmate]

I am sure you have made some good points shadmorgon, I just don't seem to be able to understand them.
From the original post, I have not needed to carry a chainsaw before as we just chucked the wood collected on top of the KK. Now we have the Vista we will need to either buy bagged wood for the top of the car or cut wood to fit rack. Am looking at a battery chainsaw, or even a battery circular saw.

I can't understand anything Tj says

[Snapman007]

I can't understand anything Tj says

If you convert it to binary it says dot painting

[oldmate]

If you convert it to binary it says dot painting

Ah. Now I understand.

[shadmorgon]

I am sure you have made some good points shadmorgon, I just don't seem to be able to understand them.
From the original post, I have not needed to carry a chainsaw before as we just chucked the wood collected on top of the KK. Now we have the Vista we will need to either buy bagged wood for the top of the car or cut wood to fit rack. Am looking at a battery chainsaw, or even a battery circular saw.

And there is why many call for a unilateral education standard
in this Country. The naysayers all focused moreso on Hardly Normal and Jaded Car brochures.

At least you _tried_ reading it, bloke.

HAND

Shad -- gazing at fire dancing hopefuls in a starry sky

-- ridin de desert ship wif no saddle

[Hewy54]

Maybe in 40 years of Secondary teaching Maths I should have spent more time on language interpretation.

[shadmorgon]

What a load of Shite to a simple question by the OP

Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk 2

... need some help setting your own sig line/file, fella?
Or are you all done (exhausted) after opening the box yer tab came in?

/snortles

Shad -- with R00T rights on a GT-N8000
           
-> Kangaron -- did ya unplug it, turn the power off
    an' ask a teener?

-- ridin de desert ship wif no saddle

[shadmorgon]

Maybe in 40 years of Secondary teaching Maths I should have spent more time on language interpretation.

..... maybe you bored two whole generations, like.

Shad -- lookin at Boyle's Law struttin' in real time

-- ridin de desert ship wif no saddle

[gronk]

Whoa....Speewa, can you ask your sister to come down off whatever she's taking !!!

[D4D]

Is Shad really TJ and Mainey's love child

[UIZ733]

Is Shad really TJ and Mainey's love child

That is being a bit rough ....................................................on TJ and Mainey.................................................................... and also Speewa.

[The punter]

... need some help setting your own sig line/file, fella?
Or are you all done (exhausted) after opening the box yer tab came in?

/snortles

Shad -- with R00T rights on a GT-N8000
           
-> Kangaron -- did ya unplug it, turn the power off
    an' ask a teener?

-- ridin de desert ship wif no saddle

[avotrol]

Statement: "ridin de desert ship wif no saddle" 

Interpretation: "Not driving on a full tank"

[avotrol]

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[gordo350]

The driveway don't go all the way to the homestead

[Ben.Archer]

Again, if you display this things (chainsaws, axes, generators, fishing rods, guns etc) in places where these can not be used then expect trouble. Keep them locked away and abide by the other Park rules and your camping will be peaceful! 

Precisely my thoughts.  Few rangers are looking for a fight - so be sensible and you are unlikely to have an issue.

[Murph]

I am sure you have made some good points shadmorgon, I just don't seem to be able to understand them.
From the original post, I have not needed to carry a chainsaw before as we just chucked the wood collected on top of the KK. Now we have the Vista we will need to either buy bagged wood for the top of the car or cut wood to fit rack. Am looking at a battery chainsaw, or even a battery circular saw.

Also consider a reciprocating cordless saw

[Diesel Power]

Just scored myself very low hours Husky 136 with an Oregon bar for $100 (including case and Chaps).
WooHoo happy with that.
Regards
Angus.

[gronk]

Just scored myself very low hours Husky 136 with an Oregon bar for $100 (including case and Chaps).
WooHoo happy with that.
Regards
Angus.

That's bloody good value mate !!

Downloaded a u tube vid on tuning one and gave mine  a touch up yesterday..

[scarpsD40]

Ah. Now I understand.

so do you wear chaps when you use your chainsaw oldmate?

[oldmate]

so do you wear chaps when you use your chainsaw oldmate?

Nup, prefer chaps to just bring me beers