LC 200 Recommendations & Cooper

[firefox]

yeah i know hence why i am in two minds about it..
Maybe the options is the lite weight one...

Still trying to work out if this is really an option, as i still have to deal with the "lemon" range rover.. Would be nice if people actually did the legal and right thing, but i've got to work out how to deal with "new" car whilst still having the existing busted one..

Ahh food for thought, but all the feedbacks been awesome as i can work my way around it all.
JD

[Supersi]

Here you go Firefox,

http://www.myswag.org/index.php?topic=41213.0;topicseen

[GGV8Cruza]

Made the change to the 200 6 months ago and it is a great touring vehicle. Had the suspension upgrade by ARB and it works a treat although my ball weight is pretty low with the Omeo.

I have had coopers before but at the time of delivery there were none around for a changeover so went the KM2's and they have proven to be a great tyre with a bit of road noise but not that noticeable.

I also would fit the winch back in for that one of moment and mine has been used a couple of times for others, not myself yet. Check out the link below for the build up thread

GG

[fuji]

FF
As much as I love my 76 series, I too am looking at an upgrade whilst my 76 still has low kms. (29000). However the new 200 it will be my retirement vehicle.

[Swannie]

FF
As much as I love my 76 series, I too am looking at an upgrade whilst my 76 still has low kms. (29000). However the new 200 it will be my retirement vehicle.

Swannie

[prado2004]

As we are travelling all the time, I can't run two sets. So gotta find an option that suits us all the time. I also don't want to blow out fuel consumption to crazy.

I'm still trying to decide if a winch is needed. I've had one on the front for 18 months and not needed it once, and done nearly most things we want to do.

I would imagine the 18" rims would sell for quite a bit on eBay or gumtree and you could buy aftermarket 17s with the money?

[GGV8Cruza]

FF
As much as I love my 76 series, I too am looking at an upgrade whilst my 76 still has low kms. (29000). However the new 200 it will be my retirement vehicle.

All I can suggest is this

Do not test drive one unless you are 110% commited to a new vehicle. After the test drive you will be signing the papers 

GG

[firefox]

I'd love to pull the trigger. My problem is what to with the lemon Range Rover. We can't take two cars so I need to work out how to deal with that problem. Only wish lra would actually do the right or even legal thing.

[Bird]

I'd love to pull the trigger. My problem is what to with the lemon Range Rover.

carsales.com.au

[theins]

What's LR's comment re this being a lemon?

[firefox]

He he.
What's lra say, well they don't. They won't even follow court procedures. It's disgusting. For such a large company with an expensive brand is terrible. However they have burnt a lot of people lately. I'm giving them another little period to actually at least follow court rules. Otherwise I'm taking our story and documents and evidence public.

None of you will want to read it, especially those that own land rovers. There are some serious scary stories about invalid parts, etc. we've recorded the entire thing and we've been able to get internal workshop notes that normally the public doesn't see or get. There's huge difference between what's written on a customer doc and what's on the technical report.

Anyhow I am sure will keep everyone up to date. Gotta make some decisions and solve problems.

[Bird]

He he.
What's lra say, well they don't. They won't even follow court procedures. It's disgusting. For such a large company with an expensive brand is terrible. However they have burnt a lot of people lately. I'm giving them another little period to actually at least follow court rules. Otherwise I'm taking our story and documents and evidence public.

None of you will want to read it, especially those that own land rovers. There are some serious scary stories about invalid parts, etc. we've recorded the entire thing and we've been able to get internal workshop notes that normally the public doesn't see or get. There's huge difference between what's written on a customer doc and what's on the technical report.

Anyhow I am sure will keep everyone up to date. Gotta make some decisions and solve problems.

DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

[Steffo1]

All this thread shows is that the consumer is getting ripped off by the car manufacturers. It's pretty sad when you can't buy a supposedly "proper" 4WD without having to spend $$$$$$ to meet expectations. What a joke.
As to Firefoxes problems with the RRS & I've heard them 1st hand, I can understand his angst but, a lemon is a lemon! I know several people with the same vehicle who have had no problems & also know several people with different makes who have had  problems, including dealing with the manufacturer, so advising people not to buy a certain make is, to me, being a bit precious.
Steve

[firefox]

I've had 4 land rovers. The current one is a lemon. I used to love them.
My bone to pick is with the way they have treated us. That's the problem.

It's also the reason why although I have had 18 breakdowns in 18 months and not had the vehicle for over 40 weeks in that period, it has not been made public.

I'd prefer to be the nice guy and simple. But there are limits unfortunately.

I'm still trying to work through the best way through problems, hence why I am looking at all the options. It's also why I have not posted anything bad or the story which I could it's written and done, and ready to go out. But have to deal with it the mature way.

Oh and fair trading marked the car as a lemon in May this year so really can't sell it. I do have morals.

I agree that all manufacturers have problems and then some are brilliant. A lemon is a unique vehicle not an entire brand. However the way that the brand acts is different to whether a vehicle is a lemon. My problem has been the way we have been treated, and then the constant failures.

[fuji]

All I can suggest is this

Do not test drive one unless you are 110% commited to a new vehicle. After the test drive you will be signing the papers 

GG
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I rang Benalla Toyota where I bought the 76 and the saleman Damien still works there. He was really good to deal with so what now? 

[Bird]

I've had 4 land rovers. The current one is a lemon. I used to love them.
My bone to pick is with the way they have treated us. That's the problem.

It's also the reason why although I have had 18 breakdowns in 18 months and not had the vehicle for over 40 weeks in that period, it has not been made public.

I'd prefer to be the nice guy and simple. But there are limits unfortunately.

I'm still trying to work through the best way through problems, hence why I am looking at all the options. It's also why I have not posted anything bad or the story which I could it's written and done, and ready to go out. But have to deal with it the mature way.

Oh and fair trading marked the car as a lemon in May this year so really can't sell it. I do have morals.

I agree that all manufacturers have problems and then some are brilliant. A lemon is a unique vehicle not an entire brand. However the way that the brand acts is different to whether a vehicle is a lemon. My problem has been the way we have been treated, and then the constant failures.

http://aca.ninemsn.com.au/feedback.aspx

[GGV8Cruza]

All I can suggest is this

Do not test drive one unless you are 110% commited to a new vehicle. After the test drive you will be signing the papers 

GG
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I rang Benalla Toyota where I bought the 76 and the saleman Damien still works there. He was really good to deal with so what now? 

Take the plunge, its worth it 

GG

[firefox]

I've driven the gxl, vx, Sahara all one afternoon. I have to admit they are really nice.
We've actually got a crystal pearl vx on hold. But I have to sort out the other problems, as we can't travel with 2 vehicles.

In saying that the RRS has been busted now for nearly 2 weeks and told today probably another 2 weeks. So we're looking at all the sensible options etc.

It's been good as I've been trying to look at what I need and getting advice on what works and the best way to look at the LC200.

Tyres and towing have been a big concern but I think I've worked through it..

[Cookie64]

Make sure you get the OEM Tow kit thrown in as you can't just piggyback onto the existing wiring

cheers

[Pete_R]

I've driven the gxl, vx, Sahara all one afternoon. I have to admit they are really nice.
We've actually got a crystal pearl vx on hold.

We got a new crystal pearl VX in September after having had Pathfinders for the previous 14 years. What else can I say about the VX but WOW!!! Also had the standard tyres traded in before we picked it up & got ST Maxx 275/70/18's - my 1st set of Coopers ever & been quite happy with them although time will tell (just watch your speedo reading with this size as it will be reading a bit lower than actual speed). Also since picking it up, have had ARB Bullbar, Safari Snorkel, & ARB Lift kit with Polyairs put in

[firefox]

Hi peter,
Your setup is nearly identical to what I am looking at. You seem pretty happy.
Can I ask have you weighed it? What fuel mileage do you get.
Cheers
Justin

[Pete_R]

Hi peter,
Your setup is nearly identical to what I am looking at. You seem pretty happy.
Can I ask have you weighed it? What fuel mileage do you get.
Cheers
Justin

Hi Justin,
No, haven't weighed it. As for fuel consumption, a lot better than my 4.0L V6 petrol Pathy was lol. According to the trip computer, about 16l/100kms around the city ( but that is only running kids up to local school each day) & slightly less on the open road when towing a 1.7t camper trailer. Not sure how accurate the trip computer is seeing I seem to have about 40 litres left in the tank each time I've filled up. Also, keep in mind that I have gone from 285/60/18 tyres which were 800mm dia to 275/70/18's which are 847 dia.

BTW, only downside so far is that with bigger tyres, ARB lift, & Rola sports racks, now have to watch what car parks we go into as car is now about 2050 high (I figure that it is going to save me money as the wife can't go shopping as much now as can't get into some of the car parks    )

Other little I've had done so far - tinted front windows, Towbar with on road hitch (I've found off road hitch sits too high), & also got the rubber boot mat which I've found very good (don't have drawers in it). Also swapped over the useless ARB indicater/parking lights for the LED ones

Hope that helps.

[achjimmy]

This was the VX with a snorkel and Lovells as well. If your leaving the rear seats in I would guess add 40-60kg for both.

Weighed the cruiser this morning.  Full tanks, bullbar, winch, no rear seats, ply base and fridge slide. 3,000 kgs

http://www.myswag.org/index.php?topic=29524.50

[firefox]

Hi Guys,
thanks for the feedback, its actually good to understand what other weights etc are coming in at..
I've been reading alot on LCOOL and just in general researching so when/if i pull the trigger and move forward i know what i need to get done quickly.
Cheers
JD