Buying car for retiring father Triton Vs Navara D22

[jetcrew]

As the tittle reads I am Helping dad with a new car purchase, like a lot of people this will be his first new car in his life, and I,m excited to be helping him with this.

So the budget is 30K and it needs to be able to tow 2.0t min ( will only tow 1.5T ) but I want a decent margin esp with a dual cab.

So we started at the D22 as a few mates have them and they seem ok  But can only get $29K drive away with nothing included

The Trition GLX is $29,990 drive away and has a 5yr warranty + roadside + capped price over the D22 3 year.

There is no hiding I had a crap experience with a ML triton and I am trying not to let that sway my guidance on his part.

Was hoping some one else has been through same same comparing these 2 and give some advice on what swayed them in either direction.

Thanks

jet

[KingBilly]

Love my Dmax mate.  Highly recommend having a test drive.

http://www.isuzuute.com.au/isuzu-deals/current-offers.aspx

KB

[aussieducker]

Triton slightly more power (manual) and towing capacity I think. Longer Warranty should give piece of mind and time to get any niggles sorted.  Mine tows the heavy  A.S in my mind just fine. Only lacking very low rpm grunt which would be the same in any brand/small diesel  Once on boost no problem. Im sure you'll get a few more bells and whistles in triton too. Are Navara timing chains and cluthes still giving issues?

[jetcrew]

Triton slightly more power (manual) and towing capacity I think. Longer Warranty should give piece of mind and time to get any niggles sorted.  Mine tows the heavy  A.S in my mind just fine. Only lacking very low rpm grunt which would be the same in any brand/small diesel  Once on boost no problem. Im sure you'll get a few more bells and whistles in triton too. Are Navara timing chains and cluthes still giving issues?

yeah the longer warranty and capped price servicing are placing in front to me at this point..we are test driving both on Wednesday

In the sub 30k mark there is not a great deal to choose from... which is a good thing me thinks.

Jet

[Homer_Jay]

Isn't there a new triton not too far away? Might be some keen deals on the older ones.

[dazzler]

How are his knees. Both those Utes have a low seat height that pains my stuffed ones to buggerry.

Just a thought. Would he consider late model from auctions. Lots of choice and good value.

[Mace]

I know it's slightly more in price, and rear wheel drive only, but may be worth considering?

D Max High Rider.

http://www.carsales.com.au/nearnew/details/Isuzu-D-Max-2013/AGC-AD-16859227/?Cr=16&sdmvc=1

I have said previously, my best mate has a manual GLXR triton, as well as his son and daughter Having  one each also. The sons has been caned off road and still going strong with over 80k. The daughters looks in showroom condition and probably hasn't been over 3000rpm in 45000k. All are just over two years old.

His has just had the gearbox replaced under warranty at about 35000k, synchro gone on downshift from fourth to third. They use it for towing a 6.5 m boat. Ive always told him his daughter is easier on vehicles than him!!!

[Me]

Triton slightly more power (manual) and towing capacity I think. Longer Warranty should give piece of mind and time to get any niggles sorted.  Mine tows the heavy  A.S in my mind just fine. Only lacking very low rpm grunt which would be the same in any brand/small diesel  Once on boost no problem. Im sure you'll get a few more bells and whistles in triton too. Are Navara timing chains and cluthes still giving issues?

The issue with clutches is in the D40's with the DMFW, the D22 doesn't have a DMFW, so no clutch more clutch issues than any other manual. I've never had any timing chains issues (I've owned 3 x D22's)

[Me]

I've owned three new D22's & they have been great value for money, but if I could get a new 4x4 Triton for the same price, I'd buy it! You're getting more car for your dollar IMO if the prices are equal.

That said, I'm still seeing D22's being advertised at $27,990 drive away with an alloy bar & a tow bar. That's pretty hard to beat!

Pro's with a D22 - they're mega reliable, there are heaps of accessories available & they are quite a capable 4WD.

Cons - they are very slow off the mark until the turbo spools up, very basic (no modern gadgets to speak of), an old design & the suspension is a tad stiff lol! (& not a lot you can do about the front end, as it has torsion bars)

[RebsWA]

Of those two, Triton.   

[Green rv]

sorry not much help

too many issues with the triton and navara

dmax
ranger/bt50
territory

maybe amrok 

[cyberess]

Maybe consider a  Mahindra Pik-up 

Has nice high seating position  -- price it right -- Diff lock included -- goes all right -- cheap to modify -- Dual air con.

[dazzler]

Maybe consider a  Mahindra Pik-up 

Has nice high seating position  -- price it right -- Diff lock included -- goes all right -- cheap to modify -- Dual air con.

Good advice!

[aussieducker]

http://www.themotorreport.com.au/#/60257/all-new-mitsubishi-triton-revealed-in-australia-from-mid-2015

[evolution]

we own a d22, out of only those two buy the triton lol

If you are open to other suggestions possibly look at the Mahindra, or even the new foton tunland?
the Tunland has a cummins motor, German-built Getrag five-speed manual transmission, Dana axles, Borg Warner transfer case, and Bosch electrical components.

Could be worth a look, we had one come through work and it had decent exhaust on it. Sounded much tougher than a hilux, Im picking that the cummins motor is a cracker. Apparently its designed to last a min of 500000kms?

Cheers
Evo

[Mace]

If Foton get their dealer support network and marketing strategy up to speed they will be a big player in the off road market. They tried once and came up short becoz of pricing twelve months or so ago, if it works this time look out!

http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/results.aspx?ipad=1&silo=stock&q=(((Service%3d%5bCarsales%5d%26((((SiloType%3d%5bBrand+new+cars+available%5d%7cSiloType%3d%5bBrand+new+cars+in+stock%5d)%7cSiloType%3d%5bDealer+used+cars%5d)%7cSiloType%3d%5bDemo+and+near+new+cars%5d)%7cSiloType%3d%5bPrivate+seller+cars%5d))%26(Make%7b%3d%7d%5bFoton%5d%7b%26%7dModel%7b%3d%7d%5bTunland%5d))%26State%7b%3d%7d%5bQueensland%5d)&vertical=car&sortby=TopDeal

[discoteddy]

Back on topic, of the two options put forward the Triton is the better choice for the described purpose. More torque for towing, better warranty and generally more car for the money. Front suspension and motor are new generation compared to the honest old D 22.  Both are pretty keenly priced in the ACT area, I've seen them mentioned around the 29,000 mark considering cash back. Just my 2 cents worth.

Cheers,

Disco teddy.

[Jakster1]

Of them two Id Get the triton, it s a newer design and they go pretty good, good warranty, get the factory diff lock. Just don't load it up too much and it will go sweet.
The D22 aren't bad and are very basic. Our work ones my biggest gripe is the inside is quite small and cramped ( rollbars inside don't help)  But they do go pretty good offroad.
Both have plenty of aftermarket accessories available I think the triton is bigger and a lot of people don't like the styling

[Agent009]

Go the D22...best looking dual cab on the market I reckon. May be "older" but why change something that don't need fixing

[Paul (SA)]

New triton details and pics released today. Doesn't look too bad. Might be some good run out deals on the current model soon.

[Homer_Jay]

Guy at work has a d22 for about 6 yrs now and has never had any dramas with it.

Not sure if it correct, but I reckon I have seen more photos of tritons with a bent chassis than navara's.

Out of the two I would personally buy the Nissan. Much better looking IMHO and will be better resale having the Nissan badge.

Usually when a car company is offering the longest warrantee period, it is to overcome some public concerns about reliability.  Not sure if there is any known common issues with the Triton?

[Stylemaster70]

turning circle is a little better in the triton.

[Mace]

New triton details and pics released today. Doesn't look too bad. Might be some good run out deals on the current model soon.

[Silvo]

those benefits of the mitsubishi warranty will be forgotten when you are having troubles with it. i know multiple triton owners that have the thing at mitsubishi every 15,000kms .. i know plenty of d22 owners. they just keep driving their trucks.

personally, i wouldn't buy either with my money. the triton due to the above, and the nissan because i think it is outdated - probably adds to it's reliability. not sure what else to recommend though..

[dazzler]

those benefits of the mitsubishi warranty will be forgotten when you are having troubles with it. i know multiple triton owners that have the thing at mitsubishi every 15,000kms ..

The dicky idle and loss of power due to carbon build up?  God that must have cost them some $$