Oil Change question

[KeithB]

I have a 2008 model Landcruiser 200 series diesel with 150,000 on the clock. For the past year and for the next year or two i will be doing mostly short runs in the city and have opted to have the oil and filter changed every 5,000 km instead of the recommended 20,000. I get my trusty mechanic to do it as I find climbing under the thing a bit of a pain.
Is it necessary to change the filter at the same time, given the low mileage on the oil?
Or would I be better to extend to 10,000 km and change both?
I am now on a retirement income and need to watch the pennies.
Keith

[Symon]

Why do the oil changes so regularly?

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[KeithB]

Symon
Because I do a 10-15 minute trip to and from my part time work in stop start heavy traffic plus short local trips and I don't think the oil ever properly warms up.
Maybe I've got it wrong. Dunno. Hence the question.
Keith

[Bird]

Or would I be better to extend to 10,000 km and change both?

Yes.. but that's your call... Oil is cheap compared to an engine rebuild.

Or go with Amsoil and prefilter setups.... not cheap to setup, and the oil isn't cheap but Roachie was getting 50,000kls out of his oil when sending it for testing each 5000klms.

[dazzler]

As long as it gets to operating temp it makes little difference. Go with factory intervals.  A newish cruiser should be at operating within a k or 2


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[slcs78]

Getting oil temp takes quite a while. Most people assume when they have water temp they have oil up to temp. I'm my ssv, it took 2klm to get water temp but up to 15 klm to get oil up to temp

[fishfinder]

buy a $500 - $1000 little runner you will save in the long run

[Symon]

Symon
Because I do a 10-15 minute trip to and from my part time work in stop start heavy traffic plus short local trips and I don't think the oil ever properly warms up.
Maybe I've got it wrong. Dunno. Hence the question.
Keith

Ever measured it?  10-15km in city traffic I would be surprised if it didn't get to temperature.

[Andreweasty90]

I run to and from the city all day for work and I change the oil every 5000 k's and oil filter every 10,000 but that's just me. I have been told ever since I was little change the oil every 5,000 in a diesel and change the filter every other change


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[Diesel Power]

The 200 series factory service interval is 10,000kms.
Regards
Angus

[Mrs smith]

I suggest googleing  "serveer service oil change intervals"

Here's a small quote from US site.
Well, here is what the manufacturers say constitutes severe driving conditions; you can draw your own conclusions.

        Most of your trips are less than four miles.
        Most of your trips are less than ten miles and outside temperatures are below freezing.
        The engine is at low speed most of the time – not on the highway. You operate your vehicle in dusty areas.
        You regularly tow a trailer or carry heavy loads.
        Drive with a car-top carrier.
        Stop and go driving.
        Driving in very hot or very cold weather.

[rotare]

Each to their own, but personally I reckon some people get way too paranoid about oil changes and end up "over" servicing their vehicles for no good reason.  Just service it at the  factory recommended intervals, using a quality oil.

When was the last time you heard of someone needing their engine re-built because they only serviced their vehicle according to manufacturers specs?  IMO, service the vehicle regularly and by the book, and by the time you have to worry about whether the engine needs rebuilding you've probably already parted ways with the vehicle anyways....

[dazzler]

? bravo rotare


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[fishfinder]

? bravo rotare


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[Bullant4x4]

I change oil and filter every 5000km as per MW.

I run my vehicle for about 5min every morning before driving it and idles a lot when camping. So even though it's 5000km on the clock the engine has done more.

[GeoffA]

I run my vehicle for about 5min every morning before driving it........

The neighbours must love that.

Why not drive off slowly and warm the whole driveline up together, not just the engine....??

[V8CRSA]

I run to and from the city all day for work and I change the oil every 5000 k's and oil filter every 10,000 but that's just me. I have been told ever since I was little change the oil every 5,000 in a diesel and change the filter every other change


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So you spend your hard earn'd on clean new oil and then it goes into a old dirty filter that just contaminates your new oil...........
Just wasting money if you ask me,I don't know of any manufacturer that recommends that ?

Matt

[Black Diamond]

So you spend your hard earn'd on clean new oil and then it goes into a old dirty filter that just contaminates your new oil...........
Just wasting money if you ask me,I don't know of any manufacturer that recommends that ?

Matt

agree 100%. Don't see the common sense in not changing the filter at the same time.

[GeoffA]

Service intervals for TD42's are oil every 5,000k, and filters every 10,000k.

[Symon]

I run my vehicle for about 5min every morning before driving it and idles a lot when camping. So even though it's 5000km on the clock the engine has done more.

If you have a diesel that is not a good way of looking after it.  http://coxengineering.sharepoint.com/Pages/Boreglazing.aspx

[Bullant4x4]

If you have a diesel that is not a good way of looking after it.  http://coxengineering.sharepoint.com/Pages/Boreglazing.aspx

Thanks for the info and making me aware of something I didn't know. Lucky I don't own a yacht

I can understand this if all it does is idle to charge a battery for its life and never gets a good run.

It all sounds bad but as long as you give the engine a good blast to remove carbon, all is good. I can't see warming an engine and charging your batteries are going to do damage.

Just like Nan's car that just goes to the shops. Sometimes it needs to go on the motorway to give it a good clean.

[Symon]

I think you missed the point of the article.  If the damage is done giving it a good run isn't going to do much.

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[Beachman]

Very good article and thanks for posting, but it talking about glazing effecting newish engines. Seeing the 1HZ is 11 years old hopefully it should be run in as when camping I also run my engine for about 30 minutes each day to heat the water for the car shower.

In all seriousness glazing is something I've been aware of ever since I installed the car shower about 9 years ago, but my theory is yes the engine does idol for 30 minutes per day when camping, but it also normally gets driven hard every day driving the soft sand tracks, so that hopefully reversers some of the effect.   

[edz]

This may help answer some questions https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAcCK01XIqM

[dazzler]

In practical terms and from exp in the trade the only vehicles that had an issue with glazing were our stationary engines that were not under load much but run constantly.

Seriously. You will be fine.


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