new plug in hybrid outlander

[prado2004]

Is this what the world is coming to?

http://www.mitsubishi-motors.com.au/vehicles/outlander-phev

[dazzler]

Hopefully. Electric vehicles are the way of the future and our fossil fuel ones will be laughed at in 25yrs.
Electric motors are so efficient it's ridiculous. Mate had a Camry hybrid and it's sensational.


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[achjimmy]

I like the concept. Around town an overnight charge in a 15 amp outlet and your driving around for nicks. As long as they still have the power and range on fuel when I decide to travel further than 50km or tow or cross the Simpson!

[whitey1]

Cross the Simpson? There'll come a time when you won't be allowed to drive there! Too fragile!

[tagman]

I recently purchased a prius c as a work car. Small car and brilliant on fuel.
I reckon within 10 years more than half the new car market will be hybrids.
The technology is advancing and price coming down.

[ATC]

How's it going to run after some beach driving?

Wonder what the wading depth will be?

[noel_w]

Dunno


Our electricity is mainly derived from fossil fuels anyway, and my electricity bill is huge enough now.

[achjimmy]

Dunno


Our electricity is mainly derived from fossil fuels anyway, and my electricity bill is huge enough now.

Noel your not thinking like they want you to. Alternative energy will be comparative  as fossil fuels because they will tax/levy/excise/tariff it until it is. Then we can all continue on happy in the knowledge we are using clean energy like solar completely oblivious to all the damage to the environment the Manufacture of solar panels causes    not to mention the disposal of these batteries safely along with the mercury from the energy efficient piss poor performing fluro globes we now use!

[prado2004]

Noel your not thinking like they want you to. Alternative energy will be comparative  as fossil fuels because they will tax/levy/excise/tariff it until it is. Then we can all continue on happy in the knowledge we are using clean energy like solar completely oblivious to all the damage to the environment the Manufacture of solar panels causes    not to mention the disposal of these batteries safely along with the mercury from the energy efficient piss poor performing fluro globes we now use!

exactly right! if you worked out cost of charging each night based on getting 50kms from a charge it wouldn't work out much cheaper than petrol/diesel. Not to mention the additional cash you need to front up with at purchase time.

[Cruiser 105Tvan]

Exactly!

And what about the other things that we do with our vehicles.
Things you cannot do with an electric vehicle.
Will it pull its own mass or more than its own mass?
They have recharge points in the High Country?

[Bird]

Cant wait to go to the drag races or F1 to listen to the roar of the engines... Oh hang on..

[chester ver2.0]

Exactly!

And what about the other things that we do with our vehicles.
Things you cannot do with an electric vehicle.
Will it pull its own mass or more than its own mass?
They have recharge points in the High Country?

It will do all that and more considering a diesel electric mine truck can move 180 tonne i think you will be fine with your camper trailer

[achjimmy]

It will do all that and more considering a diesel electric mine truck can move 180 tonne i think you will be fine with your camper trailer

Yeah that's like diesel electric trains, will haul anything buts that's different tech. Try driving the electric motors with a battery bank and either the 400 tonne payload will need to be all batteries no ore or it will have a range of 300mm!

Somewhere in the world they were also using overhead cables to power dump trucks at mines!

[tagman]

That is why current electric cars are a hybrid. When you need the pulling power you have a combustion engine.

[griz066]

I drive an Outlander now. It tows my 1500kg van ok, not as fuel efficient towing as I would like at 14-17 ltrs per 100km depending on conditions. It averages 8 ltrs per 100km without the van.

I got the email about a month ago about the leccy one and was wondering how it would go towing the van. I notice it has the same 1500 kg towing capacity as the one I have now. Will definately look at them when they come out.

[achjimmy]

Any idea what sort of $$$$ ?  I really don't want to click on the button to submit an inquiry and get harassed.

[edz]

Gotta go Nuclear..on a scaled down set up .

[chester ver2.0]

Gotta go Nuclear..on a scaled down set up .

Go Hydrogen then you can always tell where the accidents are by the mushroom cloud up ahead

[shanegtr]

Somewhere in the world they were also using overhead cables to power dump trucks at mines!

Only in the uphill runs - diesel/electric everywhere else, hit the uphill run loaded, hookup to the power cables and the engine drops to idle while a gas turbine or other larger generator does all the power making. Truck wheel motors run at 100% while saving around 30%+ in the truck diesel bill and the engines last longer. Setup right you can also hook into the grid and throw the power from the wheel motors in dynamic brakes back into the grid while going back down the hill

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhqgVimGZRs

[Bird]

Gotta go Nuclear..on a scaled down set up .

Go steam power... we can grow the fuel we need.

[achjimmy]

Only in the uphill runs - diesel/electric everywhere else, hit the uphill run loaded, hookup to the power cables and the engine drops to idle while a gas turbine or other larger generator does all the power making. Truck wheel motors run at 100% while saving around 30%+ in the truck diesel bill and the engines last longer. Setup right you can also hook into the grid and throw the power from the wheel motors in dynamic brakes back into the grid while going back down the hill

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhqgVimGZRs

Thanks Shane that's pretty cool!

[dazzler]

How's it going to run after some beach driving?

Wonder what the wading depth will be?

Being serious it will be the same as what you have now.  Electrics everywhere.  Vehicles are not submarines and water kills them in the long run.

In the long run 4wds will come out with electric drive hubs that will be fully sealed.  Think of the advantages;

1. No driveshafts - articulation is determined by the whatever length you want
2. Full instant control of traction at each wheel
3. Regenerates power when braking
4. Create your own fuel at home

The only thing that holds them back at the moment is battery storage for distance for ev only.  Using Moores Law technology doubles every 2 yrs so it won't be long and you will drive from Melb to Syd on one charge.  check this out;

http://www.extremetech.com/computing/153614-new-lithium-ion-battery-design-thats-2000-times-more-powerful-recharges-1000-times-faster

Life is gunna get sparky

[Bird]

Its like cars that can park and drive themselves... Honestly if you cant do either, how the f**** did you get a license
I quite like driving and can reverse park a semi quite easily, let alone a car....

I can wait 500 years for it all.. I don't look forward to any of it.

[Silvo]

Any idea what sort of $$$$ ?  I really don't want to click on the button to submit an inquiry and get harassed.

$55k for the top of the range

[DaveR]

I think it will be a while before the electric will out do the internal combustion engine in our every day use for all year round.
Yep, sure, inner city living is 1 thing. We don't do that in this country, even those who do still load up the small car for the 1,500 k road trip twice a year for what ever reason.
Yet, the Europeans are still setting incredible fuel records. Here is a recent example.
http://www.caradvice.com.au/278476/peugeot-308-euro-coty-claims-fuel-economy-record-with-new-three-cylinder-petrol-engine/

Remember the Wagon that was driven between Rocky and Melbourne with 4 blokes in it on 1 tank of fuel to set a point straight about diesels.

I have tried to find it just now, but once a study was done which found that the passengers on a Melbourne Tram which is full would be making less hydrocarbons in the atmosphere if they all drove a V6 commodore each when compared to the coal fired power the tram uses.