Are airline seats big enough?

[JCOJ]

Unfortunately Emirates doesn't have premium economy.

It's either spend the $5k, or pray that I get an exit row seat and get the most amount of sleep I can in economy.  Problem is, when I get off at the end I have 8 days of climbing the mountains of France and Italy on my bike so I want to be 'reasonably' fresh upon arrival.

[D4D]

Spend the $5K, I have flown lots of international flights and would never fly that leg economy. Unless you had a couple of days in Dubai and/or a couple of days at the other end to get over the zombie feeling.

[Swannie]

Spend the $5k john

Swannie

[Rob C]

I would agree to spend the money. You will feel great at the end.
That is if you don,t spend the whole flight in the bar.

[achjimmy]

Yep do it, Iam amazed it's only $5k extra.  I know it seems like a lot to some but half way through the journey jammed up in Y (economy class) you will not only pay$5k but hand over your first born and your nuts .

[pinarelloman]

Wow, has this topic got off the subject!
Originally speaking about aircraft weight, now it is about anything aircraft related.
I work for a major airline & instruct & train people in weight & balance for the aircraft types we fly.
A few facts for the plane nuts out there.
We use the following weights for our PAX
Adult 12yrs + 85kg
Child 2-12yrs 32kg
Inf 0kg
This includes their hand luggage.

Airbus A380
Max take off weight 569000kg
Max fuel uplift of approx 240000kg depending on fuel density or SG.
Aircraft basic weight of about 286000kg
PAX nbrs depending on config 484
Longest route currently flown is DFW-SYD approx 16hrs.

B747er
Mtow 412000

As you can see there is a massive difference in Max weight between the two.

[D4D]

I work for a major airline & instruct & train people in weight & balance for the aircraft types we fly.

Great, free upgrades for everyone

[Nomad]

Unfortunately Emirates doesn't have premium economy.

It's either spend the $5k, or pray that I get an exit row seat and get the most amount of sleep I can in economy.  Problem is, when I get off at the end I have 8 days of climbing the mountains of France and Italy on my bike so I want to be 'reasonably' fresh upon arrival.

If you go economy, Valium is your friend.

[Oldandslow]

Just got back from an eight day, 3000km snapshot of lower WA. Flight over was average but the flight back was well below. We jumped on some cheap Jetstar flights, $129 Sydney to Perth and used the trip to catch up with some friends and see a bit of the South West. The flight home was supposed to leave at 11pm but was an hour late. We paid a few dollars more for exit row seats, window and middle. My wife took the middle, she is only 60kg so the middle is usually no problem but unfortunately the isle seat was taken up by a woman that was large enough to take up two seats. She fell asleep as soon as we took off and spread into my wife's seat, she then proceeded to snore and fart for the entire flight to Sydney. We have flown a lot the past four years, visiting about 25 different countries but this was the worst flight by far.

I believe the airline has a duty of care to its passengers to make sure that another person can not infringe on the space that a passenger has paid for. If a passenger is too large to fit in a standard seat they should be required to pay for business class if available or buy two seats if it is not. If this is not suitable to them then they should take the train.

[scarpsD40]

Woo hoo, just completed my last domestic flight for 2014. A few weeks with my feet on the ground and out with the smell of canvas will be a nice change to a pressurised aircraft cabin.

[cheif carlos]

JMy wife took the middle, she is only 60kg so the middle is usually no problem but unfortunately the isle seat was taken up by a woman that was large enough to take up two seats. She fell asleep as soon as we took off and spread into my wife's seat, she then proceeded to snore and fart for the entire flight to Sydney. We have flown a  the past four years, visiting about 25 different countries but this was the worst flight by far.

I believe the airline has a duty of care to its passengers to make sure that another person can not infringe on the space that a passenger has paid for. If a passenger is too large to fit in a standard seat they should be required to pay for business class if available or buy two seats if it is not. If this is not suitable to them then they should take the train.

I agree with you now I am not a small person and do just fit in a dash 8 seat but am always considerate of the person beside me......until today got on the plane had this arrogant businessman who thought he was better than me keep pushing me as I had the window seat. So then it was game on, had to go to the toilet twice in a 50 minute flight and then spread the wings to take up as much space a possible.
I treat anyone who sits next to me with respect until they give me the s...

[D4D]

End of an era for the 76', I have flown a lot of miles in these old girls...
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/the-last-qantas-boeing-767-dips-its-wings-in-emotional-farewell/story-fni0cx12-1227168041182

[achjimmy]

End of an era for the 76', I have flown a lot of miles in these old girls...
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/the-last-qantas-boeing-767-dips-its-wings-in-emotional-farewell/story-fni0cx12-1227168041182

Yep sad to see, I like (perfer) boeings. I flew in a "76" only a week before Xmas.

[D4D]

On a LAX-MEL trip in a 74' once I was sitting next to an older QF pilot, his comment was 'if it's not Boeing, I'm not going'. I hope the French have sorted out those Airbus'

[Rogerthatv2]

On a LAX-MEL trip in a 74' once I was sitting next to an older QF pilot, his comment was 'if it's not Boeing, I'm not going'. I hope the French have sorted out those Airbus'

Coming back from Hong Kong last year and sat next to a Qantas GM PA, she said the same thing to me, funny thing was we were talking Skybed MK 1 and that we were in an ageing A330-300 talking about QF32.  Sat next to her on the flight over and the return, on the flight back she told me who she worked for, very enjoyable flights and lovely lady. She has just recently taken redundancy and still keep in contact.


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[D4D]

Another Airbus missing...

Air Asia jet loses contact with air traffic control
http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/air-asia-jet-loses-contact-with-air-traffic-control/story-fnizu68q-1227168427005


An Air Asia jet has lost contact with air traffic control. 
 
The jet was travelling from Surabaya, Indonesia, to Singapore when contact was lost.

Sky News reports there are 155 passengers and six crew on-board Flight QZ8501.

[achjimmy]

Wtf is it with Malaysian based airlines this year!

[Rogerthatv2]

Wtf is it with Malaysian based airlines this year!

Topic of discussion here in Borneo, thoughts go out to all on board and the families. We fly Air Asia on Wednesday to Hong Kong, fairly nervous girls travelling with us...


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[achjimmy]

Mate she'll be right .

[Rogerthatv2]

Mate she'll be right .

Fully agree - I am good - wife is a tad nervous, thoughts are with the families of all effected


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[Darren253]

I've been luck enough to do a significant amount of business class international travel with work to the U.S. and Europe. At 140kg I was dreading the economy trip on my ticket back to the UK for Xmas but I am pleased to report that I am presently surprised with the Emirates A380 economy. I have a good 2" more knee room than qantas and the seat must also be 1-2inches wider than other planes.
A pleasent surprise and I'm typing this post using the FREE onboard WIFi ?

[Rogerthatv2]

A pleasent surprise and I'm typing this post using the FREE onboard WIFi ?

How's the onboard speeds Darren?


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[Garfish]

I've been luck enough to do a significant amount of business class international travel with work to the U.S. and Europe. At 140kg I was dreading the economy trip on my ticket back to the UK for Xmas but I am pleased to report that I am presently surprised with the Emirates A380 economy. I have a good 2" more knee room than qantas and the seat must also be 1-2inches wider than other planes.
A pleasent surprise and I'm typing this post using the FREE onboard WIFi ?

Surprisingly a lot of the Asian carriers also have a larger pitch seat then QF.

I use this sometimes to check my seats

http://www.seatguru.com/charts/generalcharts.php

[achjimmy]

Surprisingly a lot of the Asian carriers also have a larger pitch seat then QF.

I use this sometimes to check my seats

http://www.seatguru.com/charts/generalcharts.php

Yep always use seat guru. There is so many configs of planes handy to work out your seating

[berlitza]

to o.p    no not sooo much