Asylum Seekers claim to have been beaten by Navy - what do you think?

[muzza01]

It's not just the boat people.
We have soccer violence in Australia now?  we used to watch that bullsh!t on the news as it was happening over in Europe. Different ethnic groups claiming local soccer teams as their new club and then waiving flags from their country of origin whilst in the stands. This violence is caused by immigrant ethnics groups who want to bring their bullShit in to OZ.

While i were stationed in Sydney, we went to quite a few NRL games to watch the NQ Cowboys play. I would wear my Cowboys jersey and sometimes cop a bit of friendly banter when we lost. One ground that was not safe for the family to watch footy was Canterbury/Bankstown. It was full of ethnic groups that were looking for a scrap.  No offence to doggies fans but your home ground is full of ethnic thugs.
I decided after that game that i would never travel to Canterbury with the family to watch another game.

[Crimso]

I've got a growing feeling that we might have to give these buggers a quick whack before they get too big for their foreign-aid subsidised boots.
They're talking tough, but they do not have the military organisation to support the veiled threats they've been making. They don't even have the fuel for the ship they want to use to confront us over people smugglers.
A quick pre-emptive air strike on parts of Jakarta might get the message across and show them that we mean business.

Cheers, Tony

I really hope you're joking.

[Bird]

It's not just the boat people.
We have soccer violence in Australia now?  we used to watch that bullsh!t on the news as it was happening over in Europe. Different ethnic groups claiming local soccer teams as their new club and then waiving flags from their country of origin whilst in the stands. This violence is caused by immigrant ethnics groups who want to bring their bull**** in to OZ.

While i were stationed in Sydney, we went to quite a few NRL games to watch the NQ Cowboys play. I would wear my Cowboys jersey and sometimes cop a bit of friendly banter when we lost. One ground that was not safe for the family to watch footy was Canterbury/Bankstown. It was full of ethnic groups that were looking for a scrap.
I decided after that game that i would never travel to Canterbury with the family to watch another game.

Sadly some people will never see it as a problem. They will keep flooding in and bringing their bullShit problems with them...
Flag burning, protests in the streets and all that Shit. If they feel that strongly about it I'll chip in for a 1 way ticket to send them back to fight "for their country" ( I thought Australia was now their country )

I did my diploma with 2 people from Canterbury area, and my girlfriend at the time came to pick me up from Tech in a bikini top and shorts (summer)... One of the bombers said if she ever turned up dressed like that in their area she'd get raped.
He made big news in Sydney with a group of people for a gang rape several years later.

Instead of Jakarta being bombed, I think the airstrike would be better placed from about Marrickville out to about.. Padstow at least.

[Barry G]

Escaping religious persecution? Funny how they then try and bring their religion in over here and force it into our culture. And support tolerance, ha. If they come over here and want to build a mosque, we say ah yes that's OK, whatever you want to do, here's some more money to help with that. If we went over there and said we want to build a church, bang, we'd be shot dead in a heartbeat.

Obviously you have never met an Hazara.
Here is just one example of evidence of persecution of the Hazara.  (The Afghan minority who make up the vast majority of Afghani refugees.)
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/deadly-road-blocks-afghanistans-hazara-minority-from-homeland/story-e6frg6so-1226808384472
I would be more than happy for anyone to post any evidence of any ethnic violence or sectarianism by Hazaras anywhere, let alone in Australia.
As to your comment about being "shot in a heartbeat over there" if we wanted to beuild a church, you are correct, however it would be by the Taliban, whom these people are escaping and that the Aussies and our allies were there there to fight.
Your accusations against Afghani refugees make as little sense as accusing the Vietnamese refugees of 30+ years ago of being 'communists'.

[Barry G]

It's not just the boat people.
We have soccer violence in Australia now?  we used to watch that bullsh!t on the news as it was happening over in Europe. Different ethnic groups claiming local soccer teams as their new club and then waiving flags from their country of origin whilst in the stands. This violence is caused by immigrant ethnics groups who want to bring their bull**** in to OZ.

While i were stationed in Sydney, we went to quite a few NRL games to watch the NQ Cowboys play. I would wear my Cowboys jersey and sometimes cop a bit of friendly banter when we lost. One ground that was not safe for the family to watch footy was Canterbury/Bankstown. It was full of ethnic groups that were looking for a scrap.  No offence to doggies fans but your home ground is full of ethnic thugs.
I decided after that game that i would never travel to Canterbury with the family to watch another game.

And how many of these ethnic thugs are refugees and how many arrived by plane from Europe, N.Z., etc?
Frankly, the most prominent groups of 'thugs' I have read about in the press in recent years are the neckless 'security' staff at licenced venues who's major 'qualification' is being built like Arnie, without the need for steroids, but possibly enhanced by them. These 'heroes' seem to get off on thumping women / finding the least excuse to belt up on those who have had 'one too many'.  And I bet that none of them are refugees - as you don't even need a visa from NZ, not sure about the Pacific Island nations...
A gross generalisation I know, and probably offensive to the majority of law abiding migrants / over stayers from those nations, but no less true than the ignorant prejudiced accusations against refugees in this thread.

[Bird]

They come here for our way of life - or they would stay where they are. isn't that why they come here???

but some people seem blind to the fact that they want things changed to suit themselves, so they aren't *offended*..

Try having Easter, Christmas at your kids school these days. Soon there'll be no Australia day as it will offend them too.

Anyway this thread has run its course.

[Symon]

Well the ABC have finally woken up - http://www.smh.com.au/national/abc-boss-gaven-morris-responds-to-news-criticism-with-edict-to-staff-20140201-31u5b.html

And this pretty much sums up what I think of the Greens -

Tv Show Sea Patrol is real

[scoot]

Thanks for that clip Symon. I wasn't aware that had happened. Speaks volumes.

[alnjan]

do you mean the tv show isn't real, it's fiction, like the Greens 

[Pog]

Who actually votes for Sarah Hansen Young? She is a moron, and that clip shows it perfectly.

[muzza01]

Who said Sea Patrol isn't real? C'mon?

We are coming up to seven weeks without a an illegal boat arrival.

[Teabag]

Who said Sea Patrol isn't real? C'mon?

We are coming up to seven weeks without a an illegal boat arrival.

That you've been told about.....:-)

[kylarama]

That you've been told about.....:-)

Or the ones that got though undetected...

Never mind the hundreds of illegals that come via plane every week.

[muzza01]

50 days since a boat load of asylum seekers have set foot on Australian soil

I guess something is workin.

[Bird]

Never mind the hundreds of illegals that come via plane every week.

I agree, turn the planes around too.

[Teabag]

50 days since a boat load of asylum seekers have set foot on Australian soil

I guess something is workin.

Wrong again.....:-)

[cm4x4nut]

Wrong again.....:-)

careful mate....the government is watching and they will come get you for being their leak......... 

[Teabag]

Hence I can't say too much...:-)

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[Top.ender]

Who actually votes for Sarah Hansen Young? She is a moron, and that clip shows it perfectly.

x 200000000000......the greens party are completely irrelevant in Australian politics

[Bunyip]

I am fairly neutral on the whole boat people topic to be honest but i was lsitening to Tony Abbot on the radio yesterday. First thing he said was that he beleived what the Navy was telling him totally and that they have only ever behaved in a professional manner.
In the same interview he then said he would not release the Navy's footage because he would not release infomration that may be detrimental to the Navy.

I just think the whole clandestine nature of the Abbot Government is a concern. Everything is secret for this reason or that.

[muzza01]

I am fairly neutral on the whole boat people topic to be honest but i was lsitening to Tony Abbot on the radio yesterday. First thing he said was that he beleived what the Navy was telling him totally and that they have only ever behaved in a professional manner.
In the same interview he then said he would not release the Navy's footage because he would not release infomration that may be detrimental to the Navy.

I just think the whole clandestine nature of the Abbot Government is a concern. Everything is secret for this reason or that.

I don't think everything is secret about the Abbot government. The only thing they have been secretive about is how they are stopping the boats. 

IMO, the ABC should apologise for the bull5hit media story they made up. The Navy are doing a good job.

[Bunyip]

Hey Muzza,

Can we agree to disagree perhaps?

If there is only one side of the story to listen to then that is what people will do. At no stage did the ABC say that they had difinative proof our Navy made them hold their hands on engine parts, as soon as one of the guys said they fell onto a hot engine part (after being sprayed with a substance) they reported that etc... I could well imagine (and I have to never having served in the armed forces) that if I had peper spray or similar and I was on a boat full of illegal immigrents if they started to come towards me I would spray the s@!t out of them, better than shoting them.

Could it have been worded better, of course it could. The ABC have acknowledge that. I don;t think they need to apologise for reporting it just the words which they used. I am sure they would report the Governments side of the story if they would tell it.

The idea that the Government is basically trying to tell the independant public broadcaster what they should report on worries me more tha a few poorly selected words.

I notice the Government don't complain about the one sided reporting that Alan Jones and the rest of the liberal media purport to be news.

[muzza01]

Hey Muzza,

Can we agree to disagree perhaps?

Sure can 

[Pog]

I like the way that this govt hasn't turned every day into a media circus, re-announcing old policies & announcements, and calling media events for the purpose of calling media events..

However, I wouldn't go as far as saying that the Libs are doing a great job yet, but I think they are doing a lot better than the previous mob.

[Top.ender]

I like the way that this govt hasn't turned every day into a media circus, re-announcing old policies & announcements, and calling media events for the purpose of calling media events..

However, I wouldn't go as far as saying that the Libs are doing a great job yet, but I think they are doing a lot better than the previous mob.

agreed...