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Started by bushrat, October 30, 2013, 03:53:55 PM

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Day light saving is simple, if you want it just go to work an hour earlier.
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Quote from: Chris J on October 30, 2013, 04:31:26 PM
Day light saving is simple, if you want it just go to work an hour earlier.

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Symon

OK, I'll pose the question to you southerners who are doing the mocking here.

Why do you want daylight savings if not to give you more daylight in the afternoon?

"No, I think the days are spread out evenly throughout the year anyway.  They're reasonably close." - a perfectly logical and rational statement, what's wrong with it?
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TOPNDR

It's not just northerners that can't see the light for the day, westerners are just as simple!

Having spent half my life with, and half without daylight saving, I'm still an advocate for it.  What's the point of it getting light at 4:00 am in Brisbane?

When I was a kid and living with DST in Melbourne, our curtains didn't fade, the cows still gave milk, we had the same number of hours of daylight. AND, when mum put us to bed at 7:30, still daylight, we went to sleep because she'd brook no buggering about by any of the four of us.  My mum was 5', her kids range from 6'4" to 5'10", so if she could control her kids I can't aw why other parents can't.
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Living in Wollongong for 35 years with daylight saving and now living in Cairns for the last 16 years, it does not worry me.

You adapt. Get up early for a walk before work, come home and still plenty of daylight to do things.

So what do most southerners do for the extra hours.

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Spada

Daylight savings would be great in Qld, if it was in winter when the daylight hours are shorter, and it would actually be handy having some sunshine when you get home from work, but in summer, there are already enough daylight hours in the afternoon......

And according to the results of the last referendum (ie- the entire voting population of QLD had their say AFTER TRIALING IT), it wasn't wanted in the sunshine state.

But I can understand why it would be desirable in the darker states  ;D
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Symon

Quote from: TOPNDR on October 30, 2013, 05:50:40 PMwhen mum put us to bed at 7:30, still daylight, we went to sleep because she'd brook no buggering about by any of the four of us. 

Maybe kids are just smarter these days, as they realise that daylight savings is a stupid idea.
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Hhmmmm, having a go at us Qlders.... Have a look at this....

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Quote from: TOPNDR on October 30, 2013, 05:50:40 PM
It's not just northerners that can't see the light for the day, westerners are just as simple!

Having spent half my life with, and half without daylight saving, I'm still an advocate for it.  What's the point of it getting light at 4:00 am in Brisbane?

When I was a kid and living with DST in Melbourne, our curtains didn't fade, the cows still gave milk, we had the same number of hours of daylight. AND, when mum put us to bed at 7:30, still daylight, we went to sleep because she'd brook no buggering about by any of the four of us.  My mum was 5', her kids range from 6'4" to 5'10", so if she could control her kids I can't aw why other parents can't.
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Quote from: McGirr on October 30, 2013, 06:32:33 PM

You adapt. Get up early for a walk before work, come home and still plenty of daylight to do things.

Mark

Spot on, Get up early and make the most of the day, I have plenty of friends who sleep in and lose the best few hours of each day.
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LC

I cant understand why you wouldn't want it!!!

Quote from: Chris J on October 30, 2013, 04:31:26 PM
Day light saving is simple, if you want it just go to work an hour earlier.

This doesn't work if you work in a service orientated industry like the banking sector where you have to be at work during certain hours of the day.

Quote from: McGirr on October 30, 2013, 06:32:33 PM

So what do most southerners do for the extra hours.

Mark

I like to go kitesurfing of an afternoon, and to do this I need the afternoon sea breeze. I cant do this in the morning. I can leave work at 1700 and know that the breeze is going to stick around until 1930 or so. Or just being able to go to the beach to have dinner with the family and have a swim, oh hang on you cant do that in cairns cause you will either get stung or eaten by a croc!!!!

I notice today that sunset in cairns is at about 1830, with DLS it would be 1930 - sounds ok to me! I suspect that on Dec 22 or 23 this might blow out to about 2015, but the twilight that far north is very short so it would then get dark very quickly.

When I lived in Tassie, the twilight lasted until 2200 which meant we could water ski until 2130.

Quote from: TOPNDR on October 30, 2013, 05:50:40 PM

What's the point of it getting light at 4:00 am in Brisbane?


None - would be my guess.

Quote from: Symon on October 30, 2013, 05:19:30 PM
OK, I'll pose the question to you southerners who are doing the mocking here.

Why do you want daylight savings if not to give you more daylight in the afternoon?


That's exactly why I want it - for the reasons I have mentioned above. There things I like to do outdoors / at the beach of an afternoon / evening during summer.

My question is why do you not want the daylight ours to be at more useful time of the day, and why is DLS a stupid idea as you put it?

I do however agree that in western Queensland, if they operate on the same time zone as the east coast that DLS would be a PITA, but then maybe they should move to central time ie the same as Adelaide and Darwin, just as Broken Hill in NSW as done.
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Symon

Quote from: Lcandlc on October 30, 2013, 07:24:35 PM
My question is why do you not want the daylight ours to be at more useful time of the day, and why is DLS a stupid idea as you put it?

The closer you get to the equator the less seasonal variation you get between winter and summer, so the length of a day changes less in the north than it does in the south.  If you move the clock back in summer to give you more recreation time in the afternoon it really doesn't make much difference to those in the north as the length of the days barely change anyway.  You also have to consider the fact that close to the equator, it gets damn hot, so the only time of the day you really want to be active is in late afternoon anyway, so by moving the clock back you are giving yourself an hour that you aren't really going to use outdoors, so again it begs the question what is the point?

However, if you move the clock back in winter, it makes sense as you are compensating for the shorter day and giving yourself more time to do things in the afternoon.  But obviously that doesn't make sense to those in the south as they have quite short days during winter.

What REALLY gets on my nerve is the pompous ignorance and arrogance of the daylight saving advocates that see QLD and WA as 'backwards' and 'not with the times' as they do not have it.  Both QLD and WA have trialled daylight savings in the past and have elected to not have it.  A reasonable person with a greater than room temperature IQ would conclude that the reason why it was rejected is that people found it did not suit their lifestyle.  This concept seems to be incomprehensible to some hence the bigoted rhetoric about 'fading curtains' and 'milking cows' to try and justify their somewhat xenophobic belief.

I do understand that it is total PITA to those in the eastern states who otherwise would be on a common timezone and especially those who have to interact between QLD and NSW during this time.  The reality is that Australia is a damn big country and a one-size-fits-all solution may not be suitable in this instance.
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Nomad

Thats the best answer I have ever read.

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Mobi

IMO daylight saving is too long now. It's good with Canberra twilight in November to January but that's enough.

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Not worth discussing. The little baldyheaded fella in charge right now will not listen to logic bad or good. Something to do with motorbike riders and judges............................etc.
As for the previous mob.........they were too busy trying to look good. Either way it would upset my body clock and confuse/delay/expedite my morning bodily functions.

dallp

I don't see the problem.

You lot want it. You got it.

We don't want it. We don't got it.

You care.

We don't.

We win State of Origin every year.

You don't.

Obviously a positive correlation  there.

And the reason why xxxx and Bundy Rum taste sweeter up  here.

(and we have brighter coloured curtains.)

Moggy

Geez I thought we didn't have it cos it's too hard to turn the sun dial back an hour


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Quote from: Symon on October 30, 2013, 08:06:21 PM
The closer you get to the equator the less seasonal variation you get between winter and summer, so the length of a day changes less in the north than it does in the south.  If you move the clock back in summer to give you more recreation time in the afternoon it really doesn't make much difference to those in the north as the length of the days barely change anyway.  You also have to consider the fact that close to the equator, it gets damn hot, so the only time of the day you really want to be active is in late afternoon anyway, so by moving the clock back you are giving yourself an hour that you aren't really going to use outdoors, so again it begs the question what is the point?

However, if you move the clock back in winter, it makes sense as you are compensating for the shorter day and giving yourself more time to do things in the afternoon.  But obviously that doesn't make sense to those in the south as they have quite short days during winter.

What REALLY gets on my nerve is the pompous ignorance and arrogance of the daylight saving advocates that see QLD and WA as 'backwards' and 'not with the times' as they do not have it.  Both QLD and WA have trialled daylight savings in the past and have elected to not have it.  A reasonable person with a greater than room temperature IQ would conclude that the reason why it was rejected is that people found it did not suit their lifestyle.  This concept seems to be incomprehensible to some hence the bigoted rhetoric about 'fading curtains' and 'milking cows' to try and justify their somewhat xenophobic belief.

I do understand that it is total PITA to those in the eastern states who otherwise would be on a common timezone and especially those who have to interact between QLD and NSW during this time.  The reality is that Australia is a damn big country and a one-size-fits-all solution may not be suitable in this instance.

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Quote from: dallp on October 30, 2013, 09:00:31 PM
I don't see the problem.

You lot want it. You got it.

We don't want it. We don't got it.

You care.

We don't.

We win State of Origin every year.

You don't.

Obviously a positive correlation  there.

And the reason why xxxx and Bundy Rum taste sweeter up  here.

(and we have brighter coloured curtains.)


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