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Started by MarkGU, October 26, 2013, 09:47:53 PM

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MarkGU

here is graphic video of what can happen in the wet especially when towing. all survived this accident. how i just dont know  :-\

This accident happened at the Iluka turnoff on the Pacific Highway last week.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRYdKOvKagA&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DIRYdKOvKagA&app=desktop

the 200 series and the van were burnt to the ground.
the truck was a milk tanker.
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Bird

love the comments :D :cup: :cup: :cup: :cup: :cup: :cup:
and here!
http://www.nbnnews.com.au/index.php/2013/10/18/couple-walk-away-from-fiery-multi-car-crash/

This is it I believe?



http://www.dailyexaminer.com.au/news/serious-crash-closes-highway/2055801/
Check whats left of it all.. :o
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DRB120

Quite amazing they all survived. I must say though that particular corner does come up on you very quickly.
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Rumpig

this was posted up on LCOOL forum recently, this is a response from the driver explaining what happened:....
Quote
My name is Brad. I was the driver of the car and caravan. Without going in to too much detail, I will explain a bit about what happend. I am 53 years old and am a truck driver holding an MC licence with a lot of experience driving heavy vehicles.
When we left Woody Head, I commented to my wife about the amount of oil on the road. The posted speed limit is 100kph, I travelled at 80kph, through the small town, the speed limit is 50kph, I travelled at 40kph. As I approached the intersection I was breaking as per the conditions of the road and was successfully breaking. At about the last 50 to 30 metres the car started to slide and the ABS started operating and was doing nothing to slow the slide. As I have electronice brakes on the van that where working and adjusted correctly, I attempted to use the manual operation but that had no affect either. I had two choices....enter the intersection travelling straight or try to turn left to avoid crossing the intersection. I decided to turn left. This caused a jack knife of the car and van....now I don't know if that was the right decision or not. BUT If the van hadn't have jack knifed we would have been hit right at the drivers door.....I will leave the rest to your vivid imagination Garth and Renae.
I spoke to the truck driver and he said it did not look like I was going fast. Even the police officer who viewed the video said the same. I can assure you I was not speeding and the police report will state that.
The driver behind me had actually telephoned his wife to let her know about the amount of oil on the road. Another witness told the police the same thing. Two more witnesses stated to police they saw a truck leaving Iluka leaking oil out of drums. Perhaps, when the truck had slowed to a stop at the intersection the oil got heavier and this is where the loss of control happend. I don't like to get involved in things like this, but on this occasion as it concerns me, I felt I needed to state the facts.
I can only think of the fact that all where so lucky to be un-inured and no loss of life occurred. I agree with you Garth that elderly drivers should be tested at a certain age. But you have your facts wrong in this case
Brad.
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MarkGU

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Bird

Was the dude in the truck on a phone call in the vid?
"yea, good luck with that bye"

And the story of I had a choice of turn sharp or T bone truck...Manure.  When you watch vid, when he starts jack knifing the truck is barely in sight...
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MarkGU

Truck fire closed highway at Iluka

dont ya just love the news papers at times?
the truck never was on fire  >:(


well i spose.......the truth should never get in the way of a good story  ???
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MarkGU

Quote from: Lost on October 26, 2013, 09:59:31 PM
Was the dude in the truck on a phone call in the vid?
"yea, good luck with that bye"

And the story of I had a choice of turn sharp or T bone truck...Manure.  When you watch vid, when he starts jack knifing the truck is barely in sight...
whether he was on the phone or not is irrelevant in this case.
""yea, good luck with that bye"..............that was on the radio, not the phone.
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Bird

Quote from: MarkGUwhether he was on the phone or not is irrelevant in this case.
""yea, good luck with that bye"..............that was on the radio, not the phone.
Vanner 100% at fault...

Not worried bout the truck driver being on the phone...

But if he was I was shocked at how calm he was that's all.
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MarkGU

Quote from: Lost on October 26, 2013, 10:17:57 PM
Vanner 100% at fault...

Not worried bout the truck driver being on the phone...

But if he was I was shocked at how calm he was that's all.
hard to get excited with a steaming heap in ya jocks  8)
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Bird

Quote from: MarkGUhard to get excited with a steaming heap in ya jocks  8)
true, but I would have expected several dozen F, C, S, P, and other bombs
He didn't really make any noise at all... almost like it was a daily occurance...
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MarkGU

Quote from: Lost on October 26, 2013, 10:22:39 PM
true, but I would have expected several dozen F, C, S, P, and other bombs
He didn't really make any noise at all... almost like it was a daily occurance...
as a regular pacific highway user in a b- double myself..........yes it is a daily occurrence. near misses are anyway
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GeoffA

Quote from: MarkGU on October 26, 2013, 10:24:25 PM
as a regular pacific highway user in a b- double myself..........yes it is a daily occurrence. near misses are anyway

:o :o........I bet that keeps the boredom at bay.......
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Clouty

Wow.. Both were very lucky to survive..

Brumbypt

But why did it catch fire, we are seeing it more and more these days, or is it cos there are more cameras around??

Have crashed vehicles often burnt or is it happening more these days.

Or was he carrying something like a gas bottle or something like that that caused the fire?

Either way its very sad to to see a nice rig and I assume van too, burnt and destroyed.


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Foo

Quote from: MarkGU on October 26, 2013, 10:24:25 PM
as a regular pacific highway user in a b- double myself..........yes it is a daily occurrence. near misses are anyway

Plus that T intersection is a bastard one because you never know if they are going to stop or keep driving on and in front of you.  >:( Hated that section of road when I was taking sugar down to Harden last year.  >:D

Foo
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Foo

Quote from: Brumbypt on October 27, 2013, 06:56:24 AM
But why did it catch fire, we are seeing it more and more these days, or is it cos there are more cameras around??

Have crashed vehicles often burnt or is it happening more these days.

Or was he carrying something like a gas bottle or something like that that caused the fire?

Either way its very sad to to see a nice rig and I assume van too, burnt and destroyed.


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Quite possible that they didn't have the gas bottle turned off at the bottle!  ;)

Foo
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Brumbypt

Yes possibly, we used to travel with the fridge on GAS, cos it worked better than 12v. that was back in the early days.


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Pog

Looks like he was going too fast for the conditions.. Oil, water, whatever.... he was going too fast!
I feel sorry for the truckie.
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Pog

Also, the brakes on the van don't appear to have any effect. I suspect that they were not adjusted correctly to deal with any sort of emergency situation.
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baldheadedgit

Quote from: Pogasauras on October 27, 2013, 10:09:43 AM
Looks like he was going too fast for the conditions.. Oil, water, whatever.... he was going too fast!
I feel sorry for the truckie.
Agree he was going to fast, but, how do you know when your speed is to fast.? he may well have braked in enough time according to the conditions of the road and or enviromment. So with that in mind he would have stopped in time, so there must have been some other factor involved.   Oil..?  could well be.. WE shall never know, judging by the guys statement.. i tend to believe him. the truck driver and police seem to agree with his statement..
You can see the water on the road, but you cant see the oil.! it tends to blend in a bit.!
If you have ever had the opportunity  to hit a drop of the old greasy stuff on the road it tends to wake you up a bit.. I striaght lined a bend once, with the wheel still turned.!..scary Shit..

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Bird

Looking at it again this morning, there is no way it was going to stop - oil or no oil... he was going too fast.. Simple as that.
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D4D

Quote from: baldheadedgit on October 27, 2013, 10:26:13 AM
If you have ever had the opportunity  to hit a drop of the old greasy stuff on the road it tends to wake you up a bit.. I striaght lined a bend once, with the wheel still turned.!..scary ****..

Yup and you accelerate, he may have even aquaplaned. But Lost appears to be an accident investigator and is contradicting all the witnesses and the police so we'll believe his armchair expert opinion instead :)
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GeoffA

Quote from: D4D on October 27, 2013, 10:50:15 AM
Yup and you accelerate,...........

??? ???...kinda defies the laws of physics......
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