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Started by Mallory Black, November 28, 2012, 08:19:19 PM

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Mallory Black

Bit bored tonight....
So I got to thinking about how strange it is that parts from one brand can manage to fit with parts from some other brand without too much work. It would have more to do with the machines that make the actual parts, and some common standards in manufacturing but it's really interesting none the less and I'm keen to see what the other mechanically minded members think and if what I've seen and heard is bunkum or not!

I'll start off with..

Falcon 221 crank into Holden red motor, apparrently a little bit of machining here and there and you have 235 cubes

Massey Ferguson front pully seal (double lipped) onto holden red motor front pully seal (single lipped)

Holden banjo diff centre into ford escort mk 2 housing, uses the planetary gears from a gemini for the fine splines, and the standard Escort axles fit them. Apparrently all the studs to mate the diff centre to the housing except one actually line up from memory. One inch uni joints... perfect!

BMW K Series motorbike head (twin cam 4 valves per cylinder) onto Austin/Morris A series block

Fiat twin cam head on a Lada Niva as mentioned in another thread, although doesn't count if the engine is also Fiat derived!

If anyone had pictures that woul d be cooler!
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Quote from: McGirr on November 28, 2012, 08:33:08 PM
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edz

Once apon a time long long ago, In another life of working in a wrecking yard, most every week would see a fair bit of mixing and matching parts from different makes n models ...
Yes to the Falcon crank
yes to the Escort / holden diff
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Quote from: edz on November 28, 2012, 09:18:10 PM
Once apon a time long long ago, I another life of working in a wrecking yard, most every week would see a fair bit of mixing and matching parts from different makes n models ...
isnt that how they created the Landcruiser ?   
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Quote from: navara04 on November 28, 2012, 09:20:47 PM
isnt that how they created the Landcruiser ?   
It's how they created the Holden Camira.
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Black-Pig

Some of the Older Holdens actually have parts with Toyota stamped into them. ANd same with the Toyota having Holden stamps. Back when they were sharing. I think it was early camry or corolla, cant think of the holden...
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90% of my BT50 has FoMoCo (ford motor company) stamped on it.

Seriously though I did up a 1980 Isuzu KB40 years ago and a Camira master cylinder and brake assembly bolted straight in.

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Quote from: Black-Pig on November 28, 2012, 10:50:51 PM
Some of the Older Holdens actually have parts with Toyota stamped into them. ANd same with the Toyota having Holden stamps. Back when they were sharing. I think it was early camry or corolla, cant think of the holden...

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QuoteBMW K Series motorbike head (twin cam 4 valves per cylinder) onto Austin/Morris A series block
The datsun A10 and A12 engines from the 1000, 1200, 120Y and sunny were a re-engineered Austin A series made better by the Japs. so I guess you could look at this mod for your datto too.....although the plethora of later model turbo efi twincam nissan engines will also shoe horn between the 1200/120Y rails fairly easily.

once upon a time, long long ago, I took a weber 32/32DIR carby from a '74 Renault 12 and fitted it to my MkII 1600 escort engine. that engine had never run sweeter in all its life. the original single throat carb(I think about 38mm) was a shocker, hard to start on cold mornings, average power, average economy. the little weber made it a gem. always started first go winter or summer with no need for the manual choke. Sipped the juice through the primary 32mm throat and the mechanical secondary 32mm throat only began to open at 3/4 throttle so it provided a hefty boot when needed but generally stayed closed keeping economy excellent. the Automatic gearbox R12's had a 32/38 weber if you were cammed and needed more top end flow. love those weber carby's...surprisingly reliable for Italian engineering. clearly nothing electric in them  ;D
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i removed a tyre from a nissan rim and fitted it to a toyota rim
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Holden Apollo- Toyota Camry
Toyota Lexan- Holden Commodore
Holden Nova- Toyota Corolla
Ford Maverick- Nissan Patrol
Nissan also rebadged the Falcon ute but can't remember what they called it

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This my parts interchange from the early 90's..

Take 1 Datsun 1200 sedan and fit a stout 302 Windsor, a manual shift C4 auto, shorten down a standard Falcon Borg Warner diff, using a brand new Nissan Pintara LSD centre, which will accept 28 spline 9 inch axles (shortened of course)

During the build, a commodore radiator was used, VJ Valiant hand brake cables got the nod as well as stuff i can't remember.
Then bolt on a nitrous oxide kit of 200 HP for that "extra bit of snort" and further add a 50HP kit activated when second gear is punched. ;D

Throw a bit of body bracing into the mix to stop it turning itself inside out and go to the drags.

The car still carried normal 4 cyl rego, so drive to the drags, run a 10:61 @ 130.18 MPH and drive home again.
In the early 90's. a HSV was good for a about a mid 14 second quarter.... we use to search them out and terrorise 'em.
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Quote from: Mallory Black on November 28, 2012, 08:19:19 PM

Falcon 221 crank into Holden red motor, apparrently a little bit of machining here and there and you have 235 cubes

Bit more than a little bit of machining though. Been there done that. Waste of time.... We also used to machine down 327 Chev cranks into Holden 308's. Thankfully now you buy an over the counter crank to do so.

Early Volvo diffs into Early Holdens. The 15" Volvo wheels fit straight on to the Holden.

With engines, the early Toyota 6 had a lot of interchangable parts with Chev 6 and Mazda with Perkins.

Tank Fairlane 9" into HK-HG Holdens.

A lot of US car components fit Aussie cars. Door handles, electrical components, interior parts etc.

Monaro seat recliner knobs are the same as GT Falcon.  ;D

That's enough car crap from me.

Shane.
With enough horse power, sheer ignorance and a total lack of respect for your vehicle, you'll get through....

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Quote from: sol on November 29, 2012, 05:33:05 AM
Nissan also rebadged the Falcon ute but can't remember what they called it

:cheers:

A Nissan ute....  ;D
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sol

Make everyday count!!!
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XFN was the Nissan. A lot of thought went into that name.

Shane.
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Brij

Rover 3.5l V8 bored and stroked by Leyland Australia and utilised Holden 186 pistons to get 4.4l, fitted to P76 and Leyland Terrier (?) trucks.

Lada Niva used a SOHC Fiat motor, same as X1/9 and some other small Fiats. Fiat also produced a DOHC motor (fitted to Lancia Betas, Monte Carlos, Fiat 124s, Deltas, including the monster Group B super charged, turbo charged 1.8l S4 Delta (search Youtube "S4 Lancia" if you like the whoooosh and bang bang sounds of turbos and anti turbo stall devices!!!)  of the early '80s and Group A Delta Intergale of the '80s and '90s). The DOHC head wont fit the SOHC block, but I am led to believe the  the DOHC engine will bolt up to the same gearboxes as the SOHC motor, ie replace the whole 1.3/1.6l engine of the X1/9 or Lada Niva with the "big block" 2.0l DOHC engine from a Lancia Beta.

Sorry, my dad and his family are closet pommy car fans, and I'm a closet Italian car fan.

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Blimey
just found an article where a racer fited a Ford crossflow head to a worked holden 202 = 400HP.. niice
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Lots of VW Beetle bits in older Porsches  ;D

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Quote from: GeeTee on November 29, 2012, 11:56:00 AM
Lots of VW Beetle bits in older Porsches  ;D
And the VW bits were generally more reliable!
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Quote from: GeeTee on November 29, 2012, 11:56:00 AM
Lots of VW Beetle bits in older Porsches  ;D

Beetle pistons in ford 2l escort engines.
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Quote from: Black-Pig on November 28, 2012, 10:50:51 PM
Some of the Older Holdens actually have parts with Toyota stamped into them. ANd same with the Toyota having Holden stamps. Back when they were sharing. I think it was early camry or corolla, cant think of the holden...
Toyota Corona's had holden starfire 4 motors

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Many moons ago while cutting some rutst out of a mates HQ ute, we found the the previous owner had used Camira panels to fill in the floor. About the most usefull thing I had ever seen for one of those panels.
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