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Interesting idea for a camper heater?

Started by WogsRus, June 26, 2011, 05:59:05 PM

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WogsRus

Came accross these, basically a car style heater you connect to a heating source.

http://www.t7design.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=65&products_id=180

Now as a quirk, if you are having a fire going, whats to stop you having a heating coil in the fire and a pump to pump water around into the camper, HAY presto, heater.

Humm got me thinking.
HAD 2007 NS GLX Pajero, 3.8L grunt, ex Cop,

NOW 50th Anniversary Simpson Edition Poootrol wit some fruit

"Speed doesn't kill. It's the sudden stop at the end"
"Live everyday as if it was your last, and some day it will"

Manjimike

I had thought of putting a heating coil around an Ozpig for getting hot water around the camp - maybe add this to it.
If you get your heights right, you might get away with out a pump.

:cheers:

Mike

Silvo

the hassle will be what stops you..

setting that thing up every time and packing it away..
Dan - 2015 Discovery 4 SDV6 HSE and Lifestyle Camper AT10 EVO

Jon

If you could find some light weight hoses that were insulated, could be a goer.
Pump size would have to overcome hose resistance but not be so noisy as to be intrusive.

I am thinking more along the lines of a Dodgy Bros diesel space heater. Just got to find a cheap flame controller.
I got a sweater for Xmas, really wanted a moaner or screamer.

WogsRus

actually. now that i am thinking, as i am going to have some sought of instant hot water heater, this could plug in line with that at the same time.

HUmm ok brake out the cad drawings tonight.
HAD 2007 NS GLX Pajero, 3.8L grunt, ex Cop,

NOW 50th Anniversary Simpson Edition Poootrol wit some fruit

"Speed doesn't kill. It's the sudden stop at the end"
"Live everyday as if it was your last, and some day it will"

rodw

Quote from: Manjimike on June 26, 2011, 06:16:05 PM
I had thought of putting a heating coil around an Ozpig for getting hot water around the camp - maybe add this to it.
If you get your heights right, you might get away with out a pump.

:cheers:

Mike

Not such a good idea without pressure relief valves. Donkey hot water systems I grew up with always included a 25 foot high steam vent for when it boiled. Height was to do with standard water head but it is too long ago to remember the exact details.

kiwipete

You could use it full with Glycol (water would freeze when not being used) and maybe a remote gas burner across a heat exchanger of some sort, something you could finely control the heat...  No I like this idea... I think with a bit of thought it could work quite nicely... I was just thinking that water would be fine as long as you emptied each day and probably better as Glycol is horrible stuff if it gets a leak... Reason not to have a fire heating the water.. It could get too hot too quick, very hard to control the temp, very long hoses that would cause a trip hazard,  a small Renai type heat exchanger and a gas flame could be ralatively close to the CT without causing a risk to safety as long as placed far enough away....

A bit of thought...      Thanks for the hint....
KiwiPete
1991 HDJ80
Explorer Campers & Canvas - Lawson Off Road
http://www.explorercampers.com.au/
Canberra


WogsRus

glad to have roused some though, it has done the same for me. LOL.

If you come up with something let me know, we can put out brains together.
HAD 2007 NS GLX Pajero, 3.8L grunt, ex Cop,

NOW 50th Anniversary Simpson Edition Poootrol wit some fruit

"Speed doesn't kill. It's the sudden stop at the end"
"Live everyday as if it was your last, and some day it will"

austastar

Quote from: WogsRus on June 26, 2011, 08:34:28 PM
we can put out brains together.

Hi,
  I'm in Taroona if you want to have a look at what I'm working on.
cheers

darren

Quote from: WogsRus on June 26, 2011, 08:34:28 PM
If you come up with something let me know, we can put out brains together.

Quote from: austastar on June 26, 2011, 08:38:37 PM
Hi,
 I'm in Taroona if you want to have a look at what I'm working on.
cheers

Older toyota vans and small buses had a little remote heater with a blower similar to that. If you want a play that may be a cheap place to start
Living the Dream.

Manjimike

Quote from: rodw on June 26, 2011, 07:04:43 PM
Not such a good idea without pressure relief valves. Donkey hot water systems I grew up with always included a 25 foot high steam vent for when it boiled. Height was to do with standard water head but it is too long ago to remember the exact details.

I didn't say it but I was thinking along the lines of the water heater we used in the scouts i.e. pipes running thru the fire, with one end going to bottom of storage tank and the other end going to the top. The storage tank is not sealed (normally has a funnel for refilling as you use the water).
This system makes its own convection current, so the unit above should just be plugged in, in series near the top pipe.

Sounds good to me anyway  ;D ;D

:cheers:
Mike

Vince

For the cold --- more clothing

For hot water --- Aquacube

All can be achived in next to no time.

A beliver in KISS rule while camping.


WogsRus

^^^, yeah but where's the fun in that?
HAD 2007 NS GLX Pajero, 3.8L grunt, ex Cop,

NOW 50th Anniversary Simpson Edition Poootrol wit some fruit

"Speed doesn't kill. It's the sudden stop at the end"
"Live everyday as if it was your last, and some day it will"

Bird

Cobb cooker inside the trailer section with some heat beads in there, they last hours.

I think some more people are going for a month to Mawson Station like http://myswag.org/forum/index.php?topic=13446.0
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WogsRus

my original idea was to use this with some sought of waste heat, like a cob or something, particularly in tassie, DANG COLD.
HAD 2007 NS GLX Pajero, 3.8L grunt, ex Cop,

NOW 50th Anniversary Simpson Edition Poootrol wit some fruit

"Speed doesn't kill. It's the sudden stop at the end"
"Live everyday as if it was your last, and some day it will"

Bird

Quote from: WogsRus on June 26, 2011, 09:00:47 PM
my original idea was to use this with some sought of waste heat, like a cob or something, particularly in tassie, DANG COLD.
we get dang cold too.
we had -8 at Pineapple flat one year, one of these worked too well in a 9x9 tent, would be good in a trailer add 10 seconds to packup, no coils, water flowing etc KISS.



this looks good too
http://so-42.blogspot.com/2008/05/new-heater-nova-estufa.html
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WogsRus

yeah i looked at them and most likely go with these but it was a thought
HAD 2007 NS GLX Pajero, 3.8L grunt, ex Cop,

NOW 50th Anniversary Simpson Edition Poootrol wit some fruit

"Speed doesn't kill. It's the sudden stop at the end"
"Live everyday as if it was your last, and some day it will"

austastar

Quote from: Lost on June 26, 2011, 09:30:28 PM
we get dang cold too.
we had -8 at Pineapple flat one year

Hi,
   yep that's nipply.

I've used gas radiators, gas lamps and even the gas stove to keep warm in our old van, but is was pretty draughty, with large slots cut into the door, and gas fridge ventilation catered for. Definitely not a winter highland camper.
Friends had a close call one very cold night moored on a yacht when they over estimated the ventilation available for a gas stove. Fortunately one of them recognised the incomplete combustion in the gas flame and opened the main hatch before any ill effects were caused to the crew.

cheers

Bird

Quote from: austastaryep that's nipply.
It was the weekend away after one of those "Cleanouts" where you say 'i havent used that in 4 trips, I wont take it anymore.. which was spare blankets, and sleeping bags... Cammo only had his Bob the Builder sleepin bag, thus borrowing the Coleman off big shane then buyin it off him!
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austastar

Hi,
   Now that's a donkey heater!



cheers