Jayco Outback - Axle

Started by Teabag, March 20, 2011, 10:35:26 AM

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Sprung under or over?

Sprung under - normal suspension
12 (28.6%)
Sprung over - normal suspension
26 (61.9%)
Sprung under -2t suspension upgrade
4 (9.5%)
Sprung over - 2t suspension upgrade
0 (0%)

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Teabag

Quote from: cam_champion on March 24, 2011, 08:19:07 AM
Its a caravan............deal with it  ;D  ;D  ;D

I've dealt with it and all the more comfortable for it....... ;D
2006 GU4 4.2TDi Patrol with many goodies. Currently no camper but have had a Customline Camper, Kimberly Kamper and Jayco Hawk....Tenting and Swagging it now..


Nutto

Yo, TBag wid da pimpin low ridin chick magnet, ya need to update ya signature text....
outback 2t axle pimpin lowrider
Fully sick 8) 8)

Teabag

Quote from: Nutto on March 24, 2011, 03:01:17 PM
Yo, TBag wid da pimpin low ridin chick magnet, ya need to update ya signature text....
outback 2t axle pimpin lowrider
Fully sick 8) 8)

Wasup, you dissin my ride bro......Might have to put a cap in your ass..... >:D
2006 GU4 4.2TDi Patrol with many goodies. Currently no camper but have had a Customline Camper, Kimberly Kamper and Jayco Hawk....Tenting and Swagging it now..


cruza driver

Well homies I was down at my Jayco dealer on Friday picking up my Expanda after getting a little work done.  I walked around sticking my head under some campers and Expandas checking out there axles.

There were axles under slung and over slung everywhere depending on configuration. So I asked the question what to GO.

I was told this; 2t axles on camper trailers are under slung. I then asked why has the 2011 mdl Expandas have over slung axles (mine doesnt 2010) he said that they are forever changing things slightly during the production year.

The standard axles on the camper trailer (Outback) are generally over slung. They wont over slung axles on onroad models any more.
Flamingo and Swan nearly all are underslung because they have 2T axles.

I think this is what they said  ;D ;D I dont think they knew the exact reason but I gave them someting to think about.
2012 MAZDA BT50 GT AND 2010 OUTBACK EXPANDA

Teabag

Cruza driver, cheers. When mines comes out of warranty I will be spring over the suspension to gain extra height. I know I have at least 55mm to play with.......If I go over, so be it..... :cheers:
2006 GU4 4.2TDi Patrol with many goodies. Currently no camper but have had a Customline Camper, Kimberly Kamper and Jayco Hawk....Tenting and Swagging it now..


cdboi84

Cruza Driver your kinda on the right track... but other way around lol. 2t axles are straight so cannot be underslung so packers are added to bring the height back up to standard Outback height (on Campers). All Campers on a 1600kg axle will be underslung as they are an overlay axle not a straight.

Pop tops and Caravans will differ slighting depending on the size/options fitted/weight of the unit/spring setup/tyre type etc. There will be many combinations and will vary from model to model. Customers are wanting more and more options so Jayco would be allowing for this in their axles and braking capacities.

However as i said before the coupling height no matter what the spring/axle setup must not exceed 460mm from the ground to the center of the coupling as this is a legal requirement.

Unfortunately your Dealer doesn't seem to know alot about the setup types and why they are the way they are.
2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland CRD + 2012 Jayco Swift Outback + 2012 Jayco 19' Sterling Outback

Black Diamond

Im still waiting for my dealer to call me back a week later........
Not too fussed because i now know the answer, but i suspect they are still trying to get their head around it  ???
1996 80 series Cruiser
2005 Coota Camper - The legend lives on.....

cruza driver

They mentioned about the different axles but they thought they were all straight now.

As for the Dealer not knowing what I was talking about I think they hadn;t been asked this before by the way they answered my questions.

Oh well my old Hawk '07 mdl was over slung so all was good there  ;D

Thanks cdboi84  :cheers: :cheers:
2012 MAZDA BT50 GT AND 2010 OUTBACK EXPANDA

cdboi84

No probs... trying to spit it out in away it makes sense lol   :cheers:
2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland CRD + 2012 Jayco Swift Outback + 2012 Jayco 19' Sterling Outback

Teabag

Far enough but why can one Outback be at the 460mm and another at 405mm which is a 2in difference? IMO all Outbacks should be set at the same hitch height or at least as close as practical to it.

PS: Yes, mine was measured empty. ;D
2006 GU4 4.2TDi Patrol with many goodies. Currently no camper but have had a Customline Camper, Kimberly Kamper and Jayco Hawk....Tenting and Swagging it now..


cdboi84

I wish i had an answer for you mate  :-[
2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland CRD + 2012 Jayco Swift Outback + 2012 Jayco 19' Sterling Outback

Teabag

Quote from: cdboi84 on March 28, 2011, 07:33:09 PM
I wish i had an answer for you mate  :-[

Cheers, thanks for your explanation and honesty. ;D
2006 GU4 4.2TDi Patrol with many goodies. Currently no camper but have had a Customline Camper, Kimberly Kamper and Jayco Hawk....Tenting and Swagging it now..


cruza driver

Quote from: Teabag on March 28, 2011, 07:37:27 PM
Cheers, thanks for your explanation and honesty. ;D
yep thanks for helping answer any questions it's much appreciated
2012 MAZDA BT50 GT AND 2010 OUTBACK EXPANDA

theflyingbadger

getting back on topic....

here is the suspension/axle setup on my hawk....


Jon

CRD TD42TI Patrol - Ultimate Xtrk TBD

Burnsy

That's a funny place to keep your Woolies card :laugh:
2016 GXL 200 Series Cruiser and Modified 2001 TL8 Camprite

theflyingbadger

Quote from: Burnsy on May 08, 2011, 09:54:34 PM
That's a funny place to keep your Woolies card :laugh:

everyone's a bloody comedian. I couldn't be @rsed getting up to get a tape measure to measure the axle size...:D
Jon

CRD TD42TI Patrol - Ultimate Xtrk TBD

gadgetman

I just noticed on Black Diamond's compliance plate that although the axle was rated to 2,000 kg, the ATM was only plated to 1,656kg.  This may be a silly question but why isn't the ATM plated to 2,000kg?
Cheers, Rob
Rob

2004 NP Pajero DiD,
2011 Swan Outback