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Re: 200 Series diesel has cacked its dacks
« Reply #50 on: August 18, 2020, 05:42:04 PM »
That seems to be the problem with dealers, they aren’t able to cope with walk ins. You want to drop in to look at a warranty concern or check engine light and they want to book you in in a weeks time.
Hopefully the private workshop can fix you up with one turbo, some fluids and be on your way.
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Re: 200 Series diesel has cacked its dacks
« Reply #51 on: August 18, 2020, 06:22:42 PM »
Same as my mates, driven lightly then off on a highway towing run. Left turbo picks up a bit of sludge that comes loose from the undersized journals. I hope this isn’t what happened to yours.

Been on a few 200 series forums and this is the 1st time I've heard this ever mentioned ?

A motor or turbo can fail at any time in the life of any car or 4wd, but that fault is a new one ??
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Re: 200 Series diesel has cacked its dacks
« Reply #52 on: August 18, 2020, 06:36:56 PM »
That seems to be the problem with dealers, they aren’t able to cope with walk ins. You want to drop in to look at a warranty concern or check engine light and they want to book you in in a weeks time.
Hopefully the private workshop can fix you up with one turbo, some fluids and be on your way.
I wonder whether anybody in a dealer service centre would have the experience to do an engine  rebuild.
Regular servicing would seem to be their business model.
I am sure I am not telling anybody something new but the old advice "get three quotes" is pretty apt in this situation.
Hope it works out well.
 

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Re: 200 Series diesel has cacked its dacks
« Reply #53 on: August 18, 2020, 06:48:02 PM »
Maybe truck it home and get your own mechanic to do the work?
You might be able to put the car hire and accom money towards the cost.

Jim has kindly offered to tow the van home for you.

Once you're home, it can take as long as it takes...

My 2c...

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Re: 200 Series diesel has cacked its dacks
« Reply #54 on: August 18, 2020, 06:57:27 PM »
Can you explain this a bit ?

I wouldn’t want to worry the OP with scuttlebutt. I was with him when it went. The mech back in brissy diagnosed it correctly over the phone, right down to how it had been driven. I’ve never heard of it before or after but evidently the mechanic had.

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Re: 200 Series diesel has cacked its dacks
« Reply #55 on: August 18, 2020, 06:57:45 PM »
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I wonder whether anybody in a dealer service centre would have the experience to do an engine  rebuild.
Regular servicing would seem to be their business model.
I agree with line 1... and 2
bit like panel beating - it used to be beating things back into shape - now its remove and replace... Not worth their time and $ to spend 1/2 a day repairing a rear 1/4.

Also agree with Geoff if it is an option $$$ wise for the tow..
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Re: 200 Series diesel has cacked its dacks
« Reply #56 on: August 18, 2020, 07:14:16 PM »
I agree with line 1... and 2
bit like panel beating - it used to be beating things back into shape - now its remove and replace... Not worth their time and $ to spend 1/2 a day repairing a rear 1/4.

Also agree with Geoff if it is an option $$$ wise for the tow..

Yup dealers are useless now for anything but logbook servicing then they even screw that up. Totally over Toyota service.
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Re: 200 Series diesel has cacked its dacks
« Reply #57 on: August 19, 2020, 07:50:15 AM »
Maybe truck it home and get your own mechanic to do the work?
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I'm not really a fan of getting major work done away from home.

Can be a problem if any issues arise later, but sometimes there isn't a choice...

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Re: 200 Series diesel has cacked its dacks
« Reply #58 on: August 19, 2020, 08:32:37 AM »
I then called up my own mechanic in Sydney, who has serviced the vehicle every 5,000km in the four years or so that I have owned it. He said in no way was there any dust damage to the motor. It compression tested perfect when I bought it.

What does he think has gone wrong then ???

Did you suggest bringing it back to him ???
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Re: 200 Series diesel has cacked its dacks
« Reply #59 on: August 19, 2020, 09:58:05 AM »
Fizzie I didn't keep my own bloke on the phone for too long. He said it sounds like a blown turbo, at least at first blush. No engine knock. Easy starting with oil pressure and no smoke at less than 1500 rpm under no load. It's driveable if you have enough oil.
Just taking a quick look at local rates, I think there would be no change out of $2K to truck it to my mechanic in the Sydney Inner West.
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Re: 200 Series diesel has cacked its dacks
« Reply #60 on: August 19, 2020, 10:54:26 AM »
I reckon I'd be heading home.

In the current situation, some parts and services may not be readily available.

It could be quite a while before it's sorted.

My 2c....again.... ;D

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Re: 200 Series diesel has cacked its dacks
« Reply #61 on: August 19, 2020, 12:44:18 PM »
Wouldn't your roadside coverage give you the choice to choose either local repair
Or transportation back to base?
So it shouldn't cost you a dime!

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Re: 200 Series diesel has cacked its dacks
« Reply #62 on: August 19, 2020, 01:22:16 PM »
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wouldn't your roadside coverage give you the choice to choose either local repair
Or transportation back to base?
So it shouldn't cost you a dime!
RACV total care "used" to give that option.. that changed to save $...
Now its to closest repair place, and if it cant be fixed in X days then they take it home for you as dude in club found out when his disco threw a rod at Eden on way to Cape York :( should never have let his missus drive ;)
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Re: 200 Series diesel has cacked its dacks
« Reply #63 on: August 19, 2020, 03:35:15 PM »
and if it cant be fixed in X days then they take it home for you

Yeah, but the cost to take it home is covered, isn't it ??? (As long as you're in the "Top" bracket)
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Re: 200 Series diesel has cacked its dacks
« Reply #64 on: August 19, 2020, 03:39:25 PM »
Yeah, but the cost to take it home is covered, isn't it ??? (As long as you're in the "Top" bracket)
as long as the 'closest' mechanic cant do it.. unsure what happens if he says he can do it, but doesnt... you could be stranded for yonks.
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Re: 200 Series diesel has cacked its dacks
« Reply #65 on: August 19, 2020, 03:44:11 PM »
as long as the 'closest' mechanic cant do it.. unsure what happens if he says he can do it, but doesnt... you could be stranded for yonks.

Might be a good time to check again  exactly what my RACWA top level membership covers. Best to know before the excrement hits the fan.
 
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Re: 200 Series diesel has cacked its dacks
« Reply #66 on: August 19, 2020, 07:08:10 PM »
Might be a good time to check again  exactly what my RACWA top level membership covers. Best to know before the excrement hits the fan.

Top cover will cover your transport at no cost. Found out on Thursday when BILs Jackaroo shat the tranny in Carnarvon. He has been a member since 1964 with only gold cover and they would only cover half the $4389 that the local RAC dude was going to charge to get it to Perth. We told him to jam it up his clacker and got a backload on a truck for $500.  ;D ;D Robbing pricks.
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Re: 200 Series diesel has cacked its dacks
« Reply #67 on: August 20, 2020, 10:49:11 AM »
Top cover will cover your transport at no cost. Found out on Thursday when BILs Jackaroo shat the tranny in Carnarvon. He has been a member since 1964 with only gold cover and they would only cover half the $4389 that the local RAC dude was going to charge to get it to Perth. We told him to jam it up his clacker and got a backload on a truck for $500.  ;D ;D Robbing pricks.

Dont bank on the transport being covered.

We werent too impressed with the RACWA . We broke down about 10Km out of port Hedland a few years back. Prado just stopped so rang breakdown service, OK towies were great in getting us into Hedland but that was as far as it went.They only offer a tow, 5 litres of fuel or a jump start. We were dropped off at a caravan park and told to ring in morning when we sorted out who we wanted to fix car and they would tow us there.They dont have a mechanic in major centres to diagnose any faults and offer advice.
That was with full cover on gold membership. We dont get anything like what is offered in eastern states.
We were offered a hire car OR accommodation but not both.  After no technical help from RAC rang my mechanic in perth who after about a hour on phone trying different thing worked it out to be a blocked venturi in second tank and it ran after putting more fuel in. Even RAC didnt offer when tilttray turned up in morning to take car away, to help get fuel , had to walk into town and carry back a jerry of fuel.  Got back to perth by just keeping second tank full.

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Re: 200 Series diesel has cacked its dacks
« Reply #68 on: August 21, 2020, 05:06:49 PM »
We got our diagnosis today from a reputable specialist truck and 4WD workshop in Orange and the prognosis is less than good. We fired the Toyota dealer. The passenger side turbo, as we know, is stuffed. So is that side of the engine. Two cylinders are down to the low 200's on compression. So it's a whole new engine, which is comparable in price to fixing the old one and will be vastly more reliable.

Looks like close to $26K, which is a lot to spend on a 12 year old vehicle. But it makes financial sense to go ahead, especially as he has perhaps (according to a PM from another Swagger) the last crate engine in Australia. It seems that COVID is buggering up parts delivery from Japan.

God willing and the floods don't rise it MIGHT be ready at the end of next week. In the meantime we are being tourists during the day and binge watching the full series of Game of Thrones at night. It is due to snow tomorrow and the next day. Thank God for an internal shower and dunny.

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Re: 200 Series diesel has cacked its dacks
« Reply #69 on: August 21, 2020, 06:06:10 PM »
OUCH!! :o :o

You have my sympathies, Keith.

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Re: 200 Series diesel has cacked its dacks
« Reply #70 on: August 21, 2020, 06:10:16 PM »
Bugga.  :-[
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Re: 200 Series diesel has cacked its dacks
« Reply #71 on: August 21, 2020, 06:31:15 PM »
Keith, although it is a bad diagnosis, your logic of spending the $ on a repair makes sense in my mind also. I’m sure the fix will be cheaper then any change over costs.
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Re: 200 Series diesel has cacked its dacks
« Reply #72 on: August 21, 2020, 06:56:09 PM »
Keith, although it is a bad diagnosis, your logic of spending the $ on a repair makes sense in my mind also. I’m sure the fix will be cheaper then any change over costs.
Good luck
yea agree.. selling what you have there you'd get nothing - and starting again is fawkin expensive..


What about insurance - bloke in club drowned his 100 years back and got a new engine through insurance.
Worth a call for 26,000..
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Re: 200 Series diesel has cacked its dacks
« Reply #73 on: August 21, 2020, 07:07:14 PM »
If you don’t mind is that price quoted for a complete engine, ie manifolds, turbos, injectors, water pump etc. what about alternator and starter.

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Re: 200 Series diesel has cacked its dacks
« Reply #74 on: August 21, 2020, 07:16:10 PM »
OUCH!! :o :o

You have my sympathies, Keith.

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Yep, my thoughts too, although ouch seems inadequate.