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Re: 200 Series diesel has cacked its dacks
« Reply #150 on: September 02, 2020, 04:44:15 PM »
At last some b\good news. Our Chinese heater furnace failed again after two previous trips to the factory, this time with a dud flame failure devise. So we bit the bullet and odered an Eberspatcher, from which the Chinese Belief unit was poorly copied.

The new Eberspatcher arrived this morning and it is now in and running, using the old wiring loom, circuit breaker and all.
It is only 4KW compared with the 5KW Belief unit, but seems to cycle up from cold much faster. Maybe German Kilowatts are bigger than Chinese ones.
It is also vastly quieter. There is no ticking fuel pump and the exhaust noise is considerably less than a typical roof mounted RV aircon. 
If it hangs in there, I could not be more pleased.

Now waiting for some good news on the 200 Series engine......
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Re: 200 Series diesel has cacked its dacks
« Reply #151 on: September 02, 2020, 05:00:59 PM »
You’re due a break Keith
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Re: 200 Series diesel has cacked its dacks
« Reply #152 on: September 02, 2020, 06:20:09 PM »
Turned the corner

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Re: 200 Series diesel has cacked its dacks
« Reply #153 on: September 02, 2020, 06:32:15 PM »
Quote from: KeithB
The new Eberspatcher arrived this morning and it is now in and running, using the old wiring loom, circuit breaker and all.
It is only 4KW compared with the 5KW Belief unit, but seems to cycle up from cold much faster.
Got any photos of the unit and in use ??
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Re: 200 Series diesel has cacked its dacks
« Reply #154 on: September 02, 2020, 07:46:01 PM »
Yes I will order a new air box when we get back. Probably from Moonlight Engineering. If anyone has any better suggestions I am all ears.
When the new engine goes in it will have a catch can fitted as well.
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Are you getting a new Toyota engine ? If so it will come with warranty, but the downside is they won't warrant it if you use an aftermarket airbox.
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Re: 200 Series diesel has cacked its dacks
« Reply #155 on: September 02, 2020, 07:47:01 PM »
I am on my laptop using my phone as a hotspot. But will try to figure out how to do photos. Photobucket is a pain in the bum.
It's a simple matter to post photos on other forums. But this one is a bit of a bummer. But I'll try.
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Re: 200 Series diesel has cacked its dacks
« Reply #156 on: September 02, 2020, 07:48:37 PM »
Are you getting a new Toyota engine ? If so it will come with warranty, but the downside is they won't warrant it if you use an aftermarket airbox.

There is one aftermarket airbox that uses the standard Toyota filter. Might have a look at that.
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Re: 200 Series diesel has cacked its dacks
« Reply #157 on: September 02, 2020, 08:09:46 PM »
I am on my laptop using my phone as a hotspot. But will try to figure out how to do photos. Photobucket is a pain in the bum.
It's a simple matter to post photos on other forums. But this one is a bit of a bummer. But I'll try.
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Re: 200 Series diesel has cacked its dacks
« Reply #158 on: September 02, 2020, 08:51:54 PM »
I'm not as clever as others.
I email the pic to myself in a smaller format. Save said pic to my laptop then copy pic to forum

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Re: 200 Series diesel has cacked its dacks
« Reply #159 on: September 02, 2020, 10:24:14 PM »
Don't you have to upload it to some URL and then quote the link with the URL nonsense?
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Re: 200 Series diesel has cacked its dacks
« Reply #160 on: September 02, 2020, 11:13:12 PM »
There is one aftermarket airbox that uses the standard Toyota filter. Might have a look at that.
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Wouldn’t they have to prove that the air filter box was the culprit?..
There’s enough info out there to prove the Toyota. Box is faulty as well.

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Re: 200 Series diesel has cacked its dacks
« Reply #161 on: September 03, 2020, 06:27:11 AM »
Wouldn’t they have to prove that the air filter box was the culprit?..
There’s enough info out there to prove the Toyota. Box is faulty as well.

Its a known issue that the original box can lead to dusting. Fitting a box that has been designed especially to stop this known issue is a good thing. .  Wouldnt make any difference to the warranty anyways...toyota dont acknowledge the air box issue!!
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Re: 200 Series diesel has cacked its dacks
« Reply #162 on: September 03, 2020, 06:44:04 AM »
Its a known issue that the original box can lead to dusting. Fitting a box that has been designed especially to stop this known issue is a good thing. .  Wouldnt make any difference to the warranty anyways...toyota dont acknowledge the air box issue!!

I get where you're coming from, but they will any excuse to refuse warranty.

It's not hard to check for dust getting past the seal......I use a Donaldson filter which is approx 2mm thicker in the seal area and supposedly better in the filtering department, and I haven't had any dust get past the filter.
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Re: 200 Series diesel has cacked its dacks
« Reply #163 on: September 03, 2020, 10:19:56 AM »
Hi garryc
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Re: 200 Series diesel has cacked its dacks
« Reply #164 on: September 03, 2020, 10:29:10 AM »
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I get where you're coming from, but they will any excuse to refuse warranty.
specially if it saves them 30,000...

if they dont admit theres an issue, changing airbox gives them that out.
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Re: 200 Series diesel has cacked its dacks
« Reply #165 on: September 03, 2020, 10:55:37 AM »
From what I can tell, the issue is likely (deliberately) confused by Toyota.

The box is fine, the filter is fine, the system as a whole is faulty. They've always got an 'out' on this - simply that the filter in use at the time of the ingestion of the dust was not genuine filter, and as such is not their product to warrant. Given that there is no way to prove what was in the car at the time, and there's no advantage to Toyotas overall sales income to be gained by paying for the fix, the problem will sit with you.

Your warranty is with your dealer however, supported by the importer. Suing the dealer, assuming the dealer did the maintenance - that may be a more promising avenue..

If you fitted your own filters, I don't see much opportunity to get anything back.

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Re: 200 Series diesel has cacked its dacks
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Re: 200 Series diesel has cacked its dacks
« Reply #167 on: September 03, 2020, 02:19:09 PM »
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Re: 200 Series diesel has cacked its dacks
« Reply #168 on: September 03, 2020, 06:56:52 PM »
I like the look of these, have to do some more research

https://www.roadrunneroffroad.com.au/patrol-docta-toyota-landcruiser-vdj-200-series-v8

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Still uses the genuine filter...and in this case a crappy Ryco.

Lots on the 200 series facebook site seem to promote Moonlight industries airbox. They use a different type of filter.
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Re: 200 Series diesel has cacked its dacks
« Reply #169 on: September 04, 2020, 07:50:44 AM »
Pixresizer is another program that I find works well.

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Re: 200 Series diesel has cacked its dacks
« Reply #170 on: September 04, 2020, 04:21:26 PM »
Pixresizer is another program that I find works well.

I'm on this crappy windows 10 and there is a resizer in photos.
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Re: 200 Series diesel has cacked its dacks
« Reply #171 on: September 04, 2020, 08:04:34 PM »
Got some more unhappy news on my busted LC200 engine today. The new engine was all set to go in yesterday. But they found a seized and busted bolt on an engine mount (don't ask me to explain the details) and had to order a new engine mount which won't arrive till Monday.
Why they didn't notice it earlier I do not know.
So It looks like I'll be stuck here till Wednesday when I hope to get the car back. Then I'll get a few miles up for a day or two to make sure everything is okay before I head back to Sydney.
Denise flies home on Monday, so I will be at the mercy of my own cooking.
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Re: 200 Series diesel has cacked its dacks
« Reply #172 on: September 04, 2020, 08:12:06 PM »
Got some more unhappy news on my busted LC200 engine today. The new engine was all set to go in yesterday. But they found a seized and busted bolt on an engine mount (don't ask me to explain the details) and had to order a new engine mount which won't arrive till Monday.
Why they didn't notice it earlier I do not know.
So It looks like I'll be stuck here till Wednesday when I hope to get the car back. Then I'll get a few miles up for a day or two to make sure everything is okay before I head back to Sydney.
Denise flies home on Monday, so I will be at the mercy of my own cooking.
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Re: 200 Series diesel has cacked its dacks
« Reply #173 on: September 04, 2020, 09:23:05 PM »
You keep hanging in there Keith. Hopefully it will all be sorted and your on the road again.


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Re: 200 Series diesel has cacked its dacks
« Reply #174 on: September 07, 2020, 04:18:58 PM »
I just checked with the mechanic and one engine mount needs to be replaced and another has a broken bolt. So we are waiting on parts but still hopeful for Wednesday.
In the meantime I have been reading everything I can on Landcruiser air box failures, which seem to be many and varied. Several solutions have been offered from tightening the clamps, to putting grease on the seals to adding some hardware store sealing rubber. None is completely effective at stopping air bypassing the filter.

I think the only permanent solution is an aftermarket air box.

In the meantime I have been reading up on the efficiency of the the air filter element when I came upon this, which makes interesting reading.

https://www.nicoclub.com/archives/kn-vs-oem-filter.html

I was going to fit a K&N filter instead of the standard one. Not now.

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