How to cope with the corona virus ..facts- not fiction.

[Fox67]

We should implement a two week lockdown on all forms of media.

If this happened 10 to 15 years ago would we have just thought we had a bad flu season??

[Pete79]

Comparing the virus's toll with other causes of death from NYT

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/03/16/upshot/coronavirus-best-worst-death-toll-scenario.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage

That's pretty sobering stuff.

4% infection rate and 0.5% fatality rate still kills more Americans then the flu.

[alnjan]

No one going to Tassie


https://7news.com.au/lifestyle/health-wellbeing/coronavirus-australia-tasmania-shuts-down-c-752281?fbclid=IwAR2ok766S8LauwRN3DVajhJ5lnvD2VxAez6QB898fFPU2CPYhTXw8U2QqZE

The Tasmanian government has declared a state of emergency and placed tough new restrictions on mainland Australians seeking entry.

Introducing the toughest border control measures in the country, Premier Peter Gutwein announced on Thursday that anyone seeking entry to Tasmania from anywhere else in Australia from midnight Friday would now be required to self-isolate for 14 days.

"Only essential travellers will be allowed into Tasmania without going into quarantine," he said.

[Fizzie]

No one going to Tassie

BiL is already booked to go in August

Wonder what happens there

[Bird]

BiL is already booked to go in August

Wonder what happens there

same with all booked and paid travel - refundable tickets or not... Lots of questions all around.

[tryagain]

same with all booked and paid travel - refundable tickets or not... Lots of questions all around.

Probably not refundable but will get a credit, which is only worth something if where they booked through doesn't go bust.

[Fizzie]

Probably not refundable but will get a credit, which is only worth something if where they booked through doesn't go bust.

You'd have to think that Spirit of Tas is fairly safe, I hope

Just thinking about it - would travelling around in your own van count as "self isolation"

[tryagain]

You'd have to think that Spirit of Tas is fairly safe, I hope

Safe as in its an essential service and the Government will make sure the service is still available, definitely. Safe as in the Gov would step in to bail out the business that currently running it and take on all their existing liabilities, still likely but far from certain.

[Fizzie]

Probably not refundable

Just spoke to him & he said that they were already thinking of cancelling, but that the ship will only refund 75% (of almost $2k ), & that's still 6 months out!

They're waiting to see what happens now

[xcvator]

From the WHO as at the 28th February

[Bigfish]

No one going to Tassie


https://7news.com.au/lifestyle/health-wellbeing/coronavirus-australia-tasmania-shuts-down-c-752281?fbclid=IwAR2ok766S8LauwRN3DVajhJ5lnvD2VxAez6QB898fFPU2CPYhTXw8U2QqZE

The Tasmanian government has declared a state of emergency and placed tough new restrictions on mainland Australians seeking entry.

Introducing the toughest border control measures in the country, Premier Peter Gutwein announced on Thursday that anyone seeking entry to Tasmania from anywhere else in Australia from midnight Friday would now be required to self-isolate for 14 days.

"Only essential travellers will be allowed into Tasmania without going into quarantine," he said.

Lets hope its a 2 way street.  Same rules apply when a Tasmanian wants to visit the mainland. They have the virus already...

[Bird]

Just spoke to him & he said that they were already thinking of cancelling, but that the ship will only refund 75% (of almost $2k ), & that's still 6 months out!

They're waiting to see what happens now

I'd say cancelling now isnt the way to go... who knows what will happen by then - they rules may change and these companies may have no option but to refund properly..

[Fizzie]

I'd say cancelling now isnt the way to go... who knows what will happen by then - they rules may change and these companies may have no option but to refund properly..

Just heard back from him ...

They've just checked the website & now offering full refund on cancellations regardless of travel dates , so they're cancelling today.

[rossm]

Probably not refundable but will get a credit, which is only worth something if where they booked through doesn't go bust.

Was going to Tassie in a couple of weeks.

Spirit of Tasmania is refunding fares. Can be done on line.

Bit disappointed but can understand their thinking. Aboriginal communities can restrict outsiders, Tasmania can, the rest of the country no chance.   

[Bird]

the rest of the country no chance.

other countries have... why cant we?

[tombie]

Close all internal borders is easily done if the wanted to.


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[Mace]

Just thinking about it - would travelling around in your own van count as "self isolation"

No. 

[Mace]

Lets hope its a 2 way street.  Same rules apply when a Tasmanian wants to visit the mainland. They have the virus already...

Until now, All bar one of the 10 cases was via an overseas arrival.  The one was in  close contact with one of the overseas arrivals....

Im quite happy to quarantine if I ever want to go over to the big island, but as a 60 something male with a couple of chronic issues why would I want to endanger my health....

[alnjan]

Just thinking about it - would travelling around in your own van count as "self isolation"

Mate who managers a caravan park said they are having inquiries from the Grey Nomads etc for a two week stay in vans or cabins etc.  Said they basically not taking any tourist longer then a week.  Also said the local showgrounds are closing or not accepting any campers.   The caravan parks are saying two weeks camping at a caravan park is not 'self isolation'.   

[Rodt]

Talking to a real estate agent this morning and he said that they have cancelled all open houses on Saturday. Still doing private inspections though

[Bigfish]

Until now, All bar one of the 10 cases was via an overseas arrival.  The one was in  close contact with one of the overseas arrivals....

Im quite happy to quarantine if I ever want to go over to the big island, but as a 60 something male with a couple of chronic issues why would I want to endanger my health....

Thats exactly how the mainland got it as well...overseas travellers..

[k100dennis]

Think of the positives - when did anyone last mention climate change ?  So now that heaps of planes are on the ground we should see the climate issues all fixed, along with the problem of over-population of the earth.  We'll see how long it takes all those tossers to come out with their theories.  Come to think of it, stupidity is spreading faster than the virus and there seems to be no vaccine for that either. Tasmania, an island off an island, . . . not a bad place to be I reckon.

[Bad Scott]

Close all internal borders is easily done if the wanted to.


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I say no to closing the internal borders. I wanna get back home first

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[alnjan]

Think of the positives - when did anyone last mention climate change ?  So now that heaps of planes are on the ground we should see the climate issues all fixed, along with the problem of over-population of the earth.  We'll see how long it takes all those tossers to come out with their theories.  Come to think of it, stupidity is spreading faster than the virus and there seems to be no vaccine for that either. Tasmania, an island off an island, . . . not a bad place to be I reckon.

Still been talk about that and the theories, positive and negative about CV.   

[Bird]

Think of the positives - when did anyone last mention climate change ?  So now that heaps of planes are on the ground we should see the climate issues all fixed, along with the problem of over-population of the earth.  We'll see how long it takes all those tossers to come out with their theories.  Come to think of it, stupidity is spreading faster than the virus and there seems to be no vaccine for that either. Tasmania, an island off an island, . . . not a bad place to be I reckon.