Supercars 2020

[gronk]

Unbelievable
https://www.supercars.com/news/championship/courtney-pivotal-in-last-minute-livery-switch/

Yeh, thought we had seen the last of that rich prick with no real regard for sportsmanship.

Don't worry, there will be an angle he's working towards.....good honest sponsorship isn't one of his traits !!

[duggie]

Yeh, thought we had seen the last of that rich prick with no real regard for sportsmanship.

Don't worry, there will be an angle he's working towards.....good honest sponsorship isn't one of his traits !!

Overnight change of sponsor my ass , Courtney already has a new Boost race suit .

I was hoping that no one was silly enough , but money talks .

[duggie]

I reckon the new Corvette might be a good replacement for the Holden teams??

I do not know if this will be the case , I remember reading somewhere that to qualify as a supercar race car they , (The road version car had to be available in right hand drive ) , with GM no longer going to build any right hand drive cars , all the GM range may be excluded in been part of the Australian supercar field .

[Craig Tomkinson]

Whats a V8 supa car cost to built, Craig

[alnjan]

I do not know if this will be the case , I remember reading somewhere that to qualify as a supercar race car they , (The road version car had to be available in right hand drive ) , with GM no longer going to build any right hand drive cars , all the GM range may be excluded in been part of the Australian supercar field .

The Camaro is continuing with the HSV being converted to RHD and could be used in Supercar.  I think it was a case they could not expand the Camaro to make it fit the Car of the Future or Car of the Past that Supercars are running.  Supercars has to hurry up and make the next version of the Car of the Future  so any car of the Future can fit it.   I guess Supercars has to the end of 2021 to come up with the new Car of the Future. 

[Foo]

Whats a V8 supa car cost to built, Craig

Don't think ya get any change outta $500000

Foo

[DannyG]

I think supercars will change any rule they need to now that Holden have vanished to keep the series going with any car the teams throw on the table.

Itll always be a control chassis wrapped with any homologated body they like. They just need to make the control roll cage a lot smaller to accommodate different bodies without having to end up with a weird looking car like the mustang is at the moment.

The show will go on. All the significant changes wont take place until 2022. My guess is the teams will continue to run the mustang and commodore body in anticipation of the required changes to allow different body shapes in 2022. They dont want to have to go through the complete vcat homologation thing so soon, so they will wait until the new regs and new bodies. You read it here first

[alnjan]

I think supercars will change any rule they need to now that Holden have vanished to keep the series going with any car the teams throw on the table.

Itll always be a control chassis wrapped with any homologated body they like. They just need to make the control roll cage a lot smaller to accommodate different bodies without having to end up with a weird looking car like the mustang is at the moment.

The show will go on. All the significant changes wont take place until 2022. My guess is the teams will continue to run the mustang and commodore body in anticipation of the required changes to allow different body shapes in 2022. They dont want to have to go through the complete vcat homologation thing so soon, so they will wait until the new regs and new bodies. You read it here first

Saw today they are going to bring the Gen 3 version back into 2021 instead of 2022, so we can only hope.

[Craig Tomkinson]

The point I was trying to make before about why not just race what is on the market by making it safe with a roll cage and modifying the motors and gearboxes a bit for racing, is its to drive new car sales, Now they have theses 500 grand cars that the average person can not buy, that are nothing like you can buy, and they wonder why they have all gone tits up, I stopped watching years ago, Craig

[MarkGU]

The point I was trying to make before about why not just race what is on the market by making it safe with a roll cage and modifying the motors and gearboxes a bit for racing, is its to drive new car sales, Now they have theses 500 grand cars that the average person can not buy, that are nothing like you can buy, and they wonder why they have all gone tits up, I stopped watching years ago, Craig

[Pottsy]

The point I was trying to make before about why not just race what is on the market by making it safe with a roll cage and modifying the motors and gearboxes a bit for racing, is its to drive new car sales, Now they have theses 500 grand cars that the average person can not buy, that are nothing like you can buy, and they wonder why they have all gone tits up, I stopped watching years ago, Craig

We already have that in the Australian Production Car Series and the TRS.  Supercars in Australia has the second highest tv viewership by women exceeded only by AFL and the third highest in men, exceeded only by AFL and Cricket. ( Marketing numbers during our eight years participation in Supercars with Bright Motorsport, Stone Brothers and Erebus) Win on Sunday buy on Monday hasn't existed in motoring for 40 years.

[macca]

We already have that in the Australian Production Car Series and the TRS.  Supercars in Australia has the second highest tv viewership by women exceeded only by AFL and the third highest in men, exceeded only by AFL and Cricket. ( Marketing numbers during our eight years participation in Supercars with Bright Motorsport, Stone Brothers and Erebus) Win on Sunday buy on Monday hasn't existed in motoring for 40 years.

We have a winner
Most Supercars fan don't want to watch mums cars, I reckon Supercars will be having a good look at the TransAm modelling for future direction.
As for dropping numbers, I have been going to Bathurst since the seventies and haven't seen much of a drop off over the years, yeah genre has changed but that's ok. Supercars need to get coverage back onto a decent free to air channel for the part time fans

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[Pottsy]

Great top ten shootout, closer than ever, looks like the aero and damper changes have spiced things up. Looking forward to a great race this arvo.

[edz]

Want wild and wooly racing entertainment .... Just go to a full Sports Sedan run what you like bodies,  so long as it has a certain width  tire for a given power and weight .    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJ_UeuiQnQA

[DannyG]

Great top ten shootout, closer than ever, looks like the aero and damper changes have spiced things up. Looking forward to a great race this arvo.

Yeh early signs would say they have finally got some parity.

Personally I found it far better when Ford was dominant

[Spada]

Yeh early signs would say they have finally got some parity.

Personally I found it far better when Ford was dominant

I agree that it seems the cars a bit more equal, but yesterdays race didn't deem to have much in the way of challenging for position? Sure it was a different mix of drivers & teams at the pointy end, but most of the passing was a result of pitstops and strategy? The only real argeybargey was with Mostert/Waters/Davidson, but I think that was just a bit of pent up Tickford payback going on?

I think it'll take a few rounds to see, maybe Adelaide is not the best circuit for passing manouvers?

[alnjan]

well it was an interesting race for a few laps. 

[alnjan]

Well done Cam Waters.   Did wonder in Scotty would have done it, but NO

[Pottsy]

Watched it all, enjoyed it, plenty of drama the last twenty laps. Pity SVGs car Shit itself, would have been a pretty hectic last half a dozen laps with him hassling Cam and Chaz.

[GeoffA]

........
Personally I found it far better when Ford was dominant

Yeah, righto....

Scintillating entertainment....

[kylarama]

Pity SVGs car Shit itself,

No pity here.  If he listened to his team, held position and drove to a number. He would've limped the broken shock home in 4th.  Sitting 3rd in the championship, 3 points behind his teammate.

Instead he almost wiped out Waters, DNF'd  and now sits 13th and a full race behind.



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[Spada]

The new aero and suspension changes were meant to equalise the field this year, and I guess they may have done that looking at the teams/drivers in the top ten? But 2 races into the season and both have been won/lost in the pits, not on the track?

[alnjan]

The new aero and suspension changes were meant to equalise the field this year, and I guess they may have done that looking at the teams/drivers in the top ten? But 2 races into the season and both have been won/lost in the pits, not on the track?

May have 'evened' performance but drivers still saying the aero wash and tyre temp is causing issues when trying to pass.   

[DannyG]

May have 'evened' performance but drivers still saying the aero wash and tyre temp is causing issues when trying to pass.   

SVG said its the gurney flap....if that's the case just remove it from both cars so air is cleaner...who needs aero

[alnjan]

SVG said its the gurney flap....if that's the case just remove it from both cars so air is cleaner...who needs aero

It'll take them another 12 months to sort it out, in the mean time keep playing follows