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Title: Supercars 2020
Post by: duggie on January 05, 2020, 02:06:33 PM
 Looking forward to the season starting , some changes are been introduced across the field that I believe will reduce the incidents that occurred last season . 


Supercars has locked in revised engine rules for 2020, aimed at improving longevity and reducing costs for teams.

A control ring and revised rocker ratio will be mandated .- no excuses for not getting it right.

Rebuilds are set to be capped at three per season.          - No more engines just for qualifying

As a result of the changes, current peak figures of approximately 650bhp will be reduced by just 15bhp; leaving the current spectacle unaffected.

The engine tweaks are being implemented alongside an approximate 15 percent reduction in downforce, which is expected to make for closer racing.

Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: gronk on January 05, 2020, 02:39:29 PM
The drivers were asking for less downforce .....
As a spectacle I think it will be almost identical to last year.
Cost saving, engine department, bugger all in the whole scheme of things. But it's a small step in the right direction.
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: MDS69 on January 05, 2020, 06:10:58 PM
Looking forward to the season starting , some changes are been introduced across the field that I believe will reduce the incidents that occurred last season . 


Supercars has locked in revised engine rules for 2020, aimed at improving longevity and reducing costs for teams.

A control ring and revised rocker ratio will be mandated .- no excuses for not getting it right. so it sounds like Supercars are admitting DJR/Penske were not 100% guilty

Rebuilds are set to be capped at three per season.          - No more engines just for qualifying
who ran qualifying engines
As a result of the changes, current peak figures of approximately 650bhp will be reduced by just 15bhp; leaving the current spectacle unaffected.

The engine tweaks are being implemented alongside an approximate 15 percent reduction in downforce, which is expected to make for closer racing.
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: duggie on January 05, 2020, 07:58:28 PM
MDS69

The text in red is my doing , having a shot at DJRTP .

Both the control ring and revised rocker ratio will be mandated and Rebuilds are set to be capped at three per season will affect DJRTP as he engine that Scott was using that failed the inspection was only used as a qualifying engine is Scotts car .That engine was never raced in any race last season .
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: gronk on January 05, 2020, 08:29:38 PM
MDS69

The text in red is my doing , having a shot at DJRTP .

Both the control ring and revised rocker ratio will be mandated and Rebuilds are set to be capped at three per season will affect DJRTP as he engine that Scott was using that failed the inspection was only used as a qualifying engine is Scotts car .That engine was never raced in any race last season .

Only partly correct. The engine they used in qualifying ( the engine that "failed" scrutineering) was changed because of problems they found with engine telemetry . In other words, it was RS. It wouldn't  have lasted the race, and superstars gave them permission to change it.
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: Spada on January 06, 2020, 09:10:51 AM
Only partly correct. The engine they used in qualifying ( the engine that "failed" scrutineering) was changed because of problems they found with engine telemetry . In other words, it was RS. It wouldn't  have lasted the race, and superstars gave them permission to change it.

Don't quote me, but I believe DJRTP (just like most of the major teams) had used some of there allocated engine rebuilds so they had fresh engines for Bathurst. Something wasn't done right with those rebuilds which was discovered after qualifying in the 17 car (which was the reason for the engine swap), but didn't become evident in the 12 car until during the race?

Caveat - I'm not a DJRTP fan, but I am a Scott McLaughlin fan
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: MDS69 on January 06, 2020, 05:49:52 PM
MDS69

The text in red is my doing , having a shot at DJRTP .

Both the control ring and revised rocker ratio will be mandated and Rebuilds are set to be capped at three per season will affect DJRTP as he engine that Scott was using that failed the inspection was only used as a qualifying engine is Scotts car .That engine was never raced in any race last season .

Duggie I guessed you were having a shot and so was I but from a DJR fan perspective. My view is by Supercars tightening those rules up they are admitting The DJR engine builder did no wrong deliberately.
 Also people claiming they ran a qualifying engine like the old Group C days is stretching the truth in that as Gronk pointed out there were issues with the unit that happened to be used during qualifying that Supercars agreed and gave permission to change otherwise it would have stayed in for the duration of the weekend if it didn’t show signs of trouble.
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: duggie on February 16, 2020, 10:37:02 AM
Less than a week to go before the 2020 season cranks up .

Time will tell how the new changes have worked , I do hope that there is more passing as expected with the less down force .

There is a few new to the main game drivers in the line up , I guess the day has long passed when a driver got a seat/drive on ability only , not how big a cheque book Daddy has .

I have noted that no team as yet has been sucked in as Gary Rodgers did with Boost sponsorship and Wankaway ( Richie Stanaway ). The owner of Boost was trying very hard at the end of last season to get a team to take him/them on .

Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: Spada on February 16, 2020, 01:25:35 PM
Less than a week to go before the 2020 season cranks up .

Got my couch booked for next weekend Duggie ;D Always like the season opener at Adelaide. Will be interesting to see how McLaughlin juggles the Indicar drives with his Aussie series title defense?
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: duggie on February 17, 2020, 08:02:57 PM
One has to wonder what is going to happen after this season ends .

Is the end of Holden going to be the start of the end to supercars ?
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: Pottsy on February 17, 2020, 08:28:53 PM
Get ready for a British Touring Car style series, lots of classes and manufacturers on the track at the same time.
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: GeoffA on February 17, 2020, 08:33:05 PM
duggie, I reckon the start of the end to supercars began when they moved away from modified road cars.

 :cheers: :cheers:
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: kylarama on February 17, 2020, 09:39:47 PM
Don't forget that V8 Supercars is just the ATCC renamed.  It survived Series Production, Group C, Group A, then the 5 litre regulations for the last 28 years.



So long as the best teams and best drivers are in it, people will watch.

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Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: gronk on February 17, 2020, 09:56:53 PM
duggie, I reckon the start of the end to supercars began when they moved away from modified road cars.

 :cheers: :cheers:

They seemed to have gone OK for the last 20 years !!

You can still watch that sort of stuff if you want....plenty of room at the races they do !!
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: GeoffA on February 18, 2020, 04:30:02 AM
They seemed to have gone OK for the last 20 years !!

You can still watch that sort of stuff if you want....plenty of room at the races they do !!

Crowds have been well down at all that I've attended over the last 20 years, despite what they claim.
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: VKPrado on February 18, 2020, 07:08:12 AM
Get ready for a British Touring Car style series, lots of classes and manufacturers on the track at the same time.

That is basically what the TRC cars that have started to race here are.
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: edz on February 18, 2020, 08:54:11 AM
 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: Inland_Sailor on February 18, 2020, 09:36:42 AM
Yes and I'm all for it! Supercars are from a previous era. TCR  cars have been making rapid progress here in AU and are already challenging Supercars as far as interest goes from the enthusiasts. SBS has been leading the way with it's coverage of the TCR series. With races at the Au GP and 2 enduro events a Bathurst for the year expect to hear more about them.

As an FIA World Championship already exist, I can see a Bathurst event, like it was back in the heyday of Group A, when cars and drivers from across the globe came here to race and our locals had some measure of comparison of where they stood in the "Big Picture".

See:

https://www.tcraustralia.com/cars/
https://www.fiawtcr.com/
https://www.facebook.com/TCRAustralia/
https://autoaction.com.au/2020/01/08/2020-tcr-australia-test-day-confirmed

Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: DannyG on February 18, 2020, 09:48:23 AM
I think this year will be closer than ever. Adrian Burgess had a lot of pressure to get the aero parity right so I think they would be very close.

But like always, teams will find a way to be better than the rest, especially when billionaires are involved and then theres the Scotty Mac factor  ;D

It is sad that Holden have gone but no doubt they will race Corvettes or Camaros which is good enough for me to have a rivalry against.

Incidentally as a person who bleeds blue I recall many times over the years where we have felt like the red side cheated to win or had unfair advantages so I understand where all the criticism is coming from towards Penske  :angel:

I would be scathing when Brocky would cross enter cars and jump into them once his first car had broken down....I hated it...as an example. Yes I know it was in the rules but far from the spirit of what a true test of endurance is IMHO.

And as for the people who criticize the category then just dont watch it or follow it. For me it is still the premiere motorsport in our country so I am a fan....especially when Ford are winning! Sure they can do more to make it better and they are doing more, it just takes time to make changes.
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: gronk on February 18, 2020, 07:15:53 PM
TCR  cars have been making rapid progress here in AU and are already challenging Supercars as far as interest goes from the enthusiasts.

Uumm......I'd have to disagree......crowd figures at a race meeting will show a HUGE difference in interest between the two.

You'll find TCR will evovle similar to BTC......nothing like a road car bar the body silhouette .
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: Inland_Sailor on February 18, 2020, 09:04:51 PM
You'll find TCR will evovle similar to BTC......nothing like a road car bar the body silhouette .

I think you've got that wrong way around!
The Supercars are just panels fitted around a specific rolling frame/platform which may, but not usually, actually match the road car it's supposed to look like. A good example is the Mustangs. Their roofline has being adjusted and lifted to fit the platform dimensions. As for the Supercar mechanicals, apart from the engines coming from the manufacturer they're supposedly representing, the rest is common across all the competitors.

PS Crowd figures for Supercars are falling, TCR crowds are growing. As I said, enthusiasts are moving across from one to the other.
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: gronk on February 18, 2020, 09:46:07 PM


PS Crowd figures for Supercars are falling, TCR crowds are growing. As I said, enthusiasts are moving across from one to the other.

Supercar crowd figures may be falling, slightly, but TCR crowds would have to increase by 40 times to match Supercars.....can't see it happening.

I like your use of the word  enthusiast......I think all motor racing fans would call themselves that.  And until things change, a huge majority want to see V8's racing, not 4 cyl mums cars !!  ;D
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: kylarama on February 19, 2020, 05:28:59 AM
TCR's greatest downfall is sporting parity.





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Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: Inland_Sailor on February 19, 2020, 10:55:00 AM
I like your use of the word  enthusiast......I think all motor racing fans would call themselves that.  And until things change, a huge majority want to see V8's racing, not 4 cyl mums cars !!  ;D

Enthusiasts participate and appreciate more than just one "formula" of the sport or activity they follow. They can also see that Supercars are running up a dead end street. [It's a bit like AFL. Largest code in Au but not really known Internationally.]
TCR's have  a world wide following, a World Championship and manufactures are joining in. Their appeal IS that they kinda look like "mum" cars that you can get from your local dealer, but go like stink! Added to that, they are the face of change in the real world, just like Formula E is vs Formula 1. [Not to far away we'll be discussing which is better to watch, battery powered cars like Teslas vs hydrogen powered like Supras!]
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: Pottsy on February 19, 2020, 11:24:30 AM
[Not to far away we'll be discussing which is better to watch, battery powered cars like Teslas vs hydrogen powered like Supras!]

I wouldn’t think so!
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: DannyG on February 19, 2020, 11:57:46 AM
They can also see that Supercars are running up a dead end street. [It's a bit like AFL. Largest code in Au but not really known Internationally.]


And yet Nascar and gridiron or whatever they call that game in the USA are both very popular and I imagine are going no where soon.

I think our premiere category of motorsport in Australia will go no where soon. Sure it will evolve in the future but its not leaving us.

As for AFL, I also do not think that is going away anytime soon...go tiges ;D
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: Inland_Sailor on February 19, 2020, 02:42:43 PM

I think our premiere category of motorsport in Australia will go no where soon. Sure it will evolve in the future but its not leaving us.

Ah, that's point I'm trying to make. Supercars will need to evolve to remain relevant. It will evolve, and quite possibly into TCR's, and if not them, then something similar.
If you remember, Supercars evolved from the Group A cars. In my view, they were vastly superior to Supercars, because of their International mix of developing technologies, manufacturers, teams, drivers and types of cars. 
Lets face it, in reality, Group A was dropped because the "Aussie Punters" on the hill couldn't stand to see the likes of Brocky etc in V8s being being beaten by overseas drivers in 2 Litre turbos. [Mums Cars?]
So to protect their fragile egos, the V8s Supercars, only found in Au, with only Holdens and Falcons, were created/evolved to pacify their immature/myopic view of what they thought motor car racing should look like!
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: kylarama on February 19, 2020, 03:14:49 PM


Lets face it, in reality, Group A was dropped because the "Aussie Punters" on the hill couldn't stand to see the likes of Brocky etc in V8s being being beaten by overseas drivers in 2 Litre turbos.

Group A was dropped because everywhere else in the world had already dropped it. I think Japan held on for another year or two.

Costs had spiralled out of control and unless you had a Godzilla, you were an also ran.  Getting a Skyline was closed shop, so no options for other teams.




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Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: gronk on February 19, 2020, 05:40:39 PM

Lets face it, in reality, Group A was dropped because the "Aussie Punters" on the hill couldn't stand to see the likes of Brocky etc in V8s being being beaten by overseas drivers in 2 Litre turbos. [Mums Cars?]
So to protect their fragile egos, the V8s Supercars, only found in Au, with only Holdens and Falcons, were created/evolved to pacify their immature/myopic view of what they thought motor car racing should look like!

Firstly, Brocky from my memory, didn't get beat by any 2 ltr turbos ? Also from my memory, the punters on the hill didn't like the "works" teams coming over for Bathurst, when the local teams had bugger all factory backing...Ford had none.

Secondly, instead of that fragile ego rubbish, I suggest you have a read of Bathurst 1000....wikapedia.
It might let you understand how things went all those years ago.
And to this day......a huge majority of fans still want V8's...soon it may/will/possibly be any number of makes....and it will stay that way until this green battery rubbish idea gains enough popularity to take over.......
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: kylarama on February 19, 2020, 05:56:07 PM
Brock drove a Group A BMW and Cosworth Sierra for a few years.

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Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: Renno on February 19, 2020, 06:00:47 PM
The Kelly boys "Road to Mustang" is not a bad watch on YouTube.
Renno
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: gronk on February 19, 2020, 06:26:04 PM
Brock drove a Group A BMW and Cosworth Sierra for a few years.

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Yep, and still got support from the punters on the hill..
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: Bird on February 19, 2020, 06:29:06 PM
Interesting that craig lowndes came out sayin super taxis are in Shit now.
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: GeoffA on February 19, 2020, 08:18:47 PM
Firstly, Brocky from my memory, didn't get beat by any 2 ltr turbos ?......

In '87 the Eggenberger Sierra's finished 1 & 2 on the road, with Brock 3rd in the other HDT car (after lunching his own engine).

Brock/McLeod/Parsons were awarded the win after both Eggenberger cars were deemed illegal due to modified front wheel arches.

I remember Larry saying at the time that the HDT cars ran 9's (?) on the front, but he could only get 8's (?) on his.

Go figure....


Johnson/Bowe won in '89 in a Sierra, but Brock was driving one too (DNF).... ;D ;D

 :cheers:
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: Inland_Sailor on February 19, 2020, 09:29:02 PM
soon it may/will/possibly be any number of makes....and it will stay that way until this green battery rubbish idea gains enough popularity to take over.......

Firstly it's great to be able to have this discussion here, it's probably happening on various other boards as well.
My point is that there will be change and with it will come some anxiety. I think if your a realist, then you can see Supercars in its current and proposed form [Gen 3], changing to be something different. What I suggest, TCR's, is one of the options, because it's already here and supported by many here, including the likes of Garry Rodgers, someone well respected in motor sport, as well as others mentioned in this discussion.
Yes, I can see the "Green Battery Rubbish" becoming the norm, because no matter what it is, people, boats, horses, dogs, cars and anything else you want to add, have been raced.  That's what "automobiles" will become and we'll see them burn rubber up Mt Panorama with a magnificent "whir" [Cue Formula E car accelerating - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiLWVuI4f0A]
As much as many might not like it, due to the fact that we don't manufacture cars in Australia, our cars will be built overseas, and some will be cars that are developed to be raced world wide. If they're "Mum Cars" and you don't like that, support something else like AFL/WAFL!. ["That's something that doesn't change with the times" he said facetiously!]

PS - Go Sainters, at least we supporters know how we will go, holding up the rest of the competition!

Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: DannyG on February 20, 2020, 08:19:29 AM

I have noted that no team as yet has been sucked in as Gary Rodgers did with Boost sponsorship and Wankaway ( Richie Stanaway ). The owner of Boost was trying very hard at the end of last season to get a team to take him/them on .



Unbelievable
https://www.supercars.com/news/championship/courtney-pivotal-in-last-minute-livery-switch/ (https://www.supercars.com/news/championship/courtney-pivotal-in-last-minute-livery-switch/)
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: MarkGU on February 20, 2020, 08:24:32 AM
Wont be long now.................................  8)

(https://i.ibb.co/syNmZVj/Capture.png) (https://imgbb.com/)
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: alnjan on February 20, 2020, 09:40:02 AM
Wont be long now.................................  8)

(https://i.ibb.co/syNmZVj/Capture.png) (https://imgbb.com/)

Actually the Kia Stinger does quite well
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: MarkGU on February 20, 2020, 10:08:33 AM
Actually the Kia Stinger does quite well
Let me know if any Ford or Holden fans would support and follow a stinger.  :D :D
 
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: Bird on February 20, 2020, 10:16:09 AM
Let me know if any Ford or Holden fans would support and follow a stinger.  :D :D
They wont have a choice.
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: DannyG on February 20, 2020, 10:18:56 AM
V8's will stay for a long time yet. Thats what the punters want and you have to appeal to the punters.

They wanted to start introducing turbo 6's and it was a dud. Itll take a few more generations to weed out the V8 thing yet.  ;D
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: MattNQ on February 20, 2020, 10:48:30 AM
I'm thinking now Holden is dead, nostalgia is going to be where the growth & interest may be in Australian racing.
I love watching the Touring Car Masters races as a support race - much better than those stupidly boring dual cabs loping awkwardly around the track.
Up the prize money in the Masters series & give it a higher profile.

I reckon the new Corvette might be a good replacement for the Holden teams??
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: Craig Tomkinson on February 20, 2020, 10:59:19 AM
Yep if its on I watch it for awhile,  but to me they should be racing what the average bloke can buy out of the car lot, With roll cage and a few mods as they are nothing like you can buy, just BS to me, Craig
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: Pottsy on February 20, 2020, 11:17:44 AM
I find it funny that we want our racing to be cars what mum and dad can buy without modifications but we buy cars and 4wds and modify them, suspension, shocks, exhaust, chips and tunes etc.
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: Bird on February 20, 2020, 01:15:22 PM
https://www.holden.com.au/ (https://www.holden.com.au/)
love how Ford are all "we are sad to see them go". LOL

"Provide servicing and spare parts for at least 10 years"

Where? all the dealerships will be closed.
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: rockrat on February 20, 2020, 03:12:46 PM
https://www.holden.com.au/ (https://www.holden.com.au/)
love how Ford are all "we are sad to see them go". LOL

"Provide servicing and spare parts for at least 10 years"

Where? all the dealerships will be closed.
Most dealerships are no longer exclusive so I don’t think servicing will be an issue. And that is of course only for the people who still use dealerships for servicing. Or they will just sign an agreement with Ultratune, etc to provide the service.

As for spare parts, they have to put a timeline on it but spares are generally available for most cars even way over 10 years old.




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Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: Spada on February 20, 2020, 03:23:37 PM
Most dealerships are no longer exclusive so I don’t think servicing will be an issue. And that is of course only for the people who still use dealerships for servicing. Or they will just sign an agreement with Ultratune, etc to provide the service.

The dealer I spoke to today said they would not be honoring the free/capped price servicing? Perhaps he meant only for new sales, not pre-existing customers??
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: Bird on February 20, 2020, 03:33:38 PM
These guys be happy
https://twitter.com/abcadelaide/status/1229503564289998848?s=20 (https://twitter.com/abcadelaide/status/1229503564289998848?s=20)

What becomes of this soon to be completed brand new Holden showroom in Adelaide ?
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ERAS-JcU8AAnx-J?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: Bird on February 20, 2020, 03:43:12 PM
The dealer I spoke to today said they would not be honoring the free/capped price servicing? Perhaps he meant only for new sales, not pre-existing customers??
If its a contract, he'd have no choice... ???
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: Spada on February 20, 2020, 04:22:57 PM
These guys be happy
https://twitter.com/abcadelaide/status/1229503564289998848?s=20 (https://twitter.com/abcadelaide/status/1229503564289998848?s=20)

What becomes of this soon to be completed brand new Holden showroom in Adelaide ?
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ERAS-JcU8AAnx-J?format=jpg&name=large)

My guess is it will end up with OPEL or Mahindra, or maybe YangYang signage  >:D
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: gronk on February 20, 2020, 06:27:24 PM
Unbelievable
https://www.supercars.com/news/championship/courtney-pivotal-in-last-minute-livery-switch/ (https://www.supercars.com/news/championship/courtney-pivotal-in-last-minute-livery-switch/)

Yeh, thought we had seen the last of that rich prick with no real regard for sportsmanship.

Don't worry, there will be an angle he's working towards.....good honest sponsorship isn't one of his traits !!
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: duggie on February 20, 2020, 06:44:19 PM
Yeh, thought we had seen the last of that rich prick with no real regard for sportsmanship.

Don't worry, there will be an angle he's working towards.....good honest sponsorship isn't one of his traits !!


Overnight change of sponsor my ass , Courtney already has a new Boost race suit .

I was hoping that no one was silly enough , but money talks .
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: duggie on February 20, 2020, 06:51:23 PM

I reckon the new Corvette might be a good replacement for the Holden teams??


I do not know if this will be the case , I remember reading somewhere that to qualify as a supercar race car they , (The road version car had to be available in right hand drive ) , with GM no longer going to build any right hand drive cars , all the GM range may be excluded in been part of the Australian supercar field .
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: Craig Tomkinson on February 20, 2020, 07:57:24 PM
Whats a V8 supa car cost to built, Craig
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: alnjan on February 20, 2020, 08:00:03 PM

I do not know if this will be the case , I remember reading somewhere that to qualify as a supercar race car they , (The road version car had to be available in right hand drive ) , with GM no longer going to build any right hand drive cars , all the GM range may be excluded in been part of the Australian supercar field .

The Camaro is continuing with the HSV being converted to RHD and could be used in Supercar.  I think it was a case they could not expand the Camaro to make it fit the Car of the Future or Car of the Past that Supercars are running.  Supercars has to hurry up and make the next version of the Car of the Future  so any car of the Future can fit it.   I guess Supercars has to the end of 2021 to come up with the new Car of the Future. 
 
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: Foo on February 20, 2020, 11:51:08 PM
Whats a V8 supa car cost to built, Craig

Don't think ya get any change outta $500000

Foo
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: DannyG on February 21, 2020, 06:47:04 AM
I think supercars will change any rule they need to now that Holden have vanished to keep the series going with any car the teams throw on the table.

Itll always be a control chassis wrapped with any homologated body they like. They just need to make the control roll cage a lot smaller to accommodate different bodies without having to end up with a weird looking car like the mustang is at the moment.

The show will go on. All the significant changes wont take place until 2022. My guess is the teams will continue to run the mustang and commodore body in anticipation of the required changes to allow different body shapes in 2022. They dont want to have to go through the complete vcat homologation thing so soon, so they will wait until the new regs and new bodies. You read it here first ;)
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: alnjan on February 21, 2020, 10:36:55 PM
I think supercars will change any rule they need to now that Holden have vanished to keep the series going with any car the teams throw on the table.

Itll always be a control chassis wrapped with any homologated body they like. They just need to make the control roll cage a lot smaller to accommodate different bodies without having to end up with a weird looking car like the mustang is at the moment.

The show will go on. All the significant changes wont take place until 2022. My guess is the teams will continue to run the mustang and commodore body in anticipation of the required changes to allow different body shapes in 2022. They dont want to have to go through the complete vcat homologation thing so soon, so they will wait until the new regs and new bodies. You read it here first ;)

Saw today they are going to bring the Gen 3 version back into 2021 instead of 2022, so we can only hope.
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: Craig Tomkinson on February 22, 2020, 06:56:50 AM
The point I was trying to make before about why not just race what is on the market by making it safe with a roll cage and modifying the motors and gearboxes a bit for racing, is its to drive new car sales, Now they have theses 500 grand cars that the average person can not buy, that are nothing like you can buy, and they wonder why they have all gone tits up, I stopped watching years ago, Craig
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: MarkGU on February 22, 2020, 07:11:55 AM
The point I was trying to make before about why not just race what is on the market by making it safe with a roll cage and modifying the motors and gearboxes a bit for racing, is its to drive new car sales, Now they have theses 500 grand cars that the average person can not buy, that are nothing like you can buy, and they wonder why they have all gone tits up, I stopped watching years ago, Craig
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Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: Pottsy on February 22, 2020, 09:32:15 AM
The point I was trying to make before about why not just race what is on the market by making it safe with a roll cage and modifying the motors and gearboxes a bit for racing, is its to drive new car sales, Now they have theses 500 grand cars that the average person can not buy, that are nothing like you can buy, and they wonder why they have all gone tits up, I stopped watching years ago, Craig

We already have that in the Australian Production Car Series and the TRS.  Supercars in Australia has the second highest tv viewership by women exceeded only by AFL and the third highest in men, exceeded only by AFL and Cricket. ( Marketing numbers during our eight years participation in Supercars with Bright Motorsport, Stone Brothers and Erebus) Win on Sunday buy on Monday hasn’t existed in motoring for 40 years.
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: macca on February 22, 2020, 10:27:25 AM
We already have that in the Australian Production Car Series and the TRS.  Supercars in Australia has the second highest tv viewership by women exceeded only by AFL and the third highest in men, exceeded only by AFL and Cricket. ( Marketing numbers during our eight years participation in Supercars with Bright Motorsport, Stone Brothers and Erebus) Win on Sunday buy on Monday hasn’t existed in motoring for 40 years.
We have a winner
Most Supercars fan don't want to watch mums cars, I reckon Supercars will be having a good look at the TransAm modelling for future direction.
As for dropping numbers, I have been going to Bathurst since the seventies and haven't seen much of a drop off over the years, yeah genre has changed but that's ok. Supercars need to get coverage back onto a decent free to air channel for the part time fans

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Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: Pottsy on February 22, 2020, 12:42:08 PM
Great top ten shootout, closer than ever, looks like the aero and damper changes have spiced things up. Looking forward to a great race this arvo. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: edz on February 22, 2020, 01:26:26 PM
Want wild and wooly racing entertainment .... Just go to a full Sports Sedan run what you like bodies,  so long as it has a certain width  tire for a given power and weight . ;D ;D   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJ_UeuiQnQA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJ_UeuiQnQA)
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: DannyG on February 23, 2020, 07:48:18 AM
Great top ten shootout, closer than ever, looks like the aero and damper changes have spiced things up. Looking forward to a great race this arvo. ;D ;D

Yeh early signs would say they have finally got some parity.

Personally I found it far better when Ford was dominant ;D
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: Spada on February 23, 2020, 08:01:45 AM
Yeh early signs would say they have finally got some parity.

Personally I found it far better when Ford was dominant ;D

I agree that it seems the cars a bit more equal, but yesterdays race didn't deem to have much in the way of challenging for position? Sure it was a different mix of drivers & teams at the pointy end, but most of the passing was a result of pitstops and strategy? The only real argeybargey was with Mostert/Waters/Davidson, but I think that was just a bit of pent up Tickford payback going on?

I think it'll take a few rounds to see, maybe Adelaide is not the best circuit for passing manouvers?
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: alnjan on February 23, 2020, 04:44:29 PM
well it was an interesting race for a few laps. 
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: alnjan on February 23, 2020, 04:48:52 PM
Well done Cam Waters.   Did wonder in Scotty would have done it, but NO
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: Pottsy on February 23, 2020, 05:45:05 PM
Watched it all, enjoyed it, plenty of drama the last twenty laps. Pity SVGs car Shit itself, would have been a pretty hectic last half a dozen laps with him hassling Cam and Chaz.
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: GeoffA on February 23, 2020, 05:45:34 PM
........
Personally I found it far better when Ford was dominant ;D

Yeah, righto.... ;D

Scintillating entertainment.... ::)

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Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: kylarama on February 23, 2020, 08:15:43 PM


Pity SVGs car Shit itself,

No pity here.  If he listened to his team, held position and drove to a number. He would've limped the broken shock home in 4th.  Sitting 3rd in the championship, 3 points behind his teammate.

Instead he almost wiped out Waters, DNF'd  and now sits 13th and a full race behind.



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Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: Spada on February 24, 2020, 06:35:54 AM
The new aero and suspension changes were meant to equalise the field this year, and I guess they may have done that looking at the teams/drivers in the top ten? But 2 races into the season and both have been won/lost in the pits, not on the track?
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: alnjan on February 24, 2020, 08:49:34 AM
The new aero and suspension changes were meant to equalise the field this year, and I guess they may have done that looking at the teams/drivers in the top ten? But 2 races into the season and both have been won/lost in the pits, not on the track?

May have 'evened' performance but drivers still saying the aero wash and tyre temp is causing issues when trying to pass.   
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: DannyG on February 24, 2020, 10:12:33 AM
May have 'evened' performance but drivers still saying the aero wash and tyre temp is causing issues when trying to pass.   

SVG said its the gurney flap....if that's the case just remove it from both cars so air is cleaner...who needs aero
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: alnjan on February 24, 2020, 10:18:43 AM
SVG said its the gurney flap....if that's the case just remove it from both cars so air is cleaner...who needs aero

It'll take them another 12 months to sort it out, in the mean time keep playing follows
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: Bird on February 24, 2020, 10:39:41 AM
Quote from: alnjan
It'll take them another 12 months to sort it out, in the mean time keep playing follows

been the way for 20 yrs... why change now. It may even become *gulp* entertaining!
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: duggie on February 29, 2020, 01:31:53 PM
HUGE NEWS - James Courtney has stepped back from Team Sydney, effective immediately!!

“We have not been able to agree on the way forward, so I have decided to depart the team. I wish Team Sydney all the best for the future,” Courtney said.

Courtney has no alternative arrangements in place and cannot comment on his future at this time.

Quote form Courtney - I haven’t got any other plans in place, so can’t really comment anymore at the moment. But my great relationship with @boostaus means that we will now be looking for some new opportunities - so watch this space....


It would my guess , But I reckon that Jonathon Webb won't bend to suit the Boost mold .
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: DannyG on February 29, 2020, 01:49:14 PM
Yep either the boost guy causing sh!t again or johno Webb is difficult?
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: gronk on February 29, 2020, 07:19:11 PM
Yep either the boost guy causing sh!t again or johno Webb is difficult?

Both I'd say.....Adderton wanting to run things his way....Webb not wanting to spend money ( even though daddy has heaps )

I have a boost mobile plan, but I'm surprised this bloke has any idea how to run a business ?

Teckno....would you take your performance car to this bloke ??
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: kylarama on March 02, 2020, 06:20:07 AM
Accordimg to AA.  Chris Pither will announce his departure from the team today.



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Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: DannyG on March 02, 2020, 09:02:21 AM
Accordimg to AA.  Chris Pither will announce his departure from the team today.



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It is sounding like a serious money issue perhaps.
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: kylarama on March 02, 2020, 09:55:09 AM

It is sounding like a serious money issue perhaps.
Allegedly has been the case for a number of years with Tekno.



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Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: gronk on March 02, 2020, 07:27:46 PM
Accordimg to AA.  Chris Pither will announce his departure from the team today.



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According to Supercars, he's staying ?

We'll soon see ?
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: kylarama on March 02, 2020, 07:49:01 PM
Chris Pither gave Auto Action a clip on FB over that report.

Peter Adderton (Boost Mobile) has given everyone a clip on Instagram.

Rod Salmon who was originally going to head up Team Sydney bailed not long after Tekno got involved.

The Webb's have a lot of money, but I struggle to see this team surviving the year in its current guise.

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Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: gronk on March 02, 2020, 08:22:24 PM


The Webb's have a lot of money, but I struggle to see this team surviving the year in its current guise.

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Daddy has the money, but I'm wondering how much Jono has ?
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: duggie on March 31, 2020, 06:33:20 PM
WELL DONE 888


https://www.supercars.com/news/championship/triple-eight-develops-ventilator-prototype/
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: edz on March 31, 2020, 06:41:39 PM
Erebus motorsport 3D printed an uprated medical face masks the other day https://www.caradvice.com.au/838965/formula-one-supercars-medical-equipment/ (https://www.caradvice.com.au/838965/formula-one-supercars-medical-equipment/) .
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: duggie on March 31, 2020, 08:44:05 PM
Erebus motorsport 3D printed an uprated medical face masks the other day https://www.caradvice.com.au/838965/formula-one-supercars-medical-equipment/ (https://www.caradvice.com.au/838965/formula-one-supercars-medical-equipment/) .


Thanks edz ,

I had only just finished reading about Erebus  and was going to put up the link when I saw that you had posted the same .
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: edz on April 06, 2020, 10:44:37 PM
Well they were Super cars   50 years ago.  8) 8)    A young Alan Moffat giving a talk around Bathurst .https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9qHRMkZSlg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9qHRMkZSlg)    Oh and I finaly found The footage of Moff's Cenovis  Falcon .. Dam it sounds so much tuffer than the other  injected falcs .. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIJtrUDIogo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIJtrUDIogo)  .
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: Spada on April 07, 2020, 12:54:28 PM
Watched the first episode of "the inside line" yesterday, I found it quite interesting. It's an 8 part series from behind the scenes in team Erebus through the 2019 season. It's on Fox 506 on Tuesday nights.
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: gronk on April 07, 2020, 06:59:12 PM
Watched the first episode of "the inside line" yesterday, I found it quite interesting. It's an 8 part series from behind the scenes in team Erebus through the 2019 season. It's on Fox 506 on Tuesday nights.

I'm going to record the iracing thing tomorrow night. Watched a few minutes of the indycar one from last week and wasn't a fan of it, but I'll leave my judgement until I watch ( if I can watch the whole race ) it tomorrow ??
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: edz on April 07, 2020, 07:21:23 PM
Here is a Question for you Ohh learned ones of Racing history .
Came up in a conversation and Ive searched and drawn a blank ...  Target of this question is... How many Fords or Holdens fitted with automatic gearboxes raced in the Touring car series and Bathurst ..team ID  car number etc pics / leads  would be appreciated .. Not talking about the Modern sequential boxes ..
I seem to recall reading some where once,  there was an XY / Y type fitted with an auto that was raced and from memory again an XD Falcon in the Eighties ..
I think there may have been a Commodore auto aswel, early 80's ??  ..
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: Foo on April 08, 2020, 05:07:16 AM
There was someone that raced an auto at Bathurst but can't recall who it was and also think it was a Holden. 🤔

Foo

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Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on April 08, 2020, 05:44:47 AM
In 1968, there was a Falcon GT auto in the mix that was doing pretty good, but from memory, broke a rear axle.

I believe it was the downshifts that killed the axle.
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: gronk on April 08, 2020, 06:41:36 AM
Have never heard that rumor. The old autos would have been 3 speed, which would have been a lot slower than a manual.
I seem to remember a bloke running one in a v8, but can't remember if it was the touring cars or not......He had one or no legs ?
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on April 08, 2020, 07:00:02 AM
Have never heard that rumor. The old autos would have been 3 speed, which would have been a lot slower than a manual.
I seem to remember a bloke running one in a v8, but can't remember if it was the touring cars or not......He had one or no legs ?

From memory, it Shit the axle coming off mountain straight to do the climb.
Pulling the auto back to second was hard on the driveline.
Title: Supercars 2020
Post by: Pete79 on April 08, 2020, 08:37:08 AM
So are we all going to be signing up to watch the new Supercars E-Series?

I couldn’t think of anything better to do on a Sunday afternoon then sit on my couch and watch a bunch of grown men playing video games.... ::)

 https://www.supercars.com/news/championship/full-field-of-supercars-drivers-to-tackle-eseries/ (https://www.supercars.com/news/championship/full-field-of-supercars-drivers-to-tackle-eseries/)
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: DannyG on April 08, 2020, 09:35:36 AM
So are we all going to be signing up to watch the new Supercars E-Series?

I couldn’t think of anything better to do on a Sunday afternoon then sit on my couch and watch a bunch of grown men playing video games.... ::)

 https://www.supercars.com/news/championship/full-field-of-supercars-drivers-to-tackle-eseries/ (https://www.supercars.com/news/championship/full-field-of-supercars-drivers-to-tackle-eseries/)

Its on tonight and yes Ill a have a look.

I have an iRacing set up so I have an interest in the simulator. I think you may be pleasantry surprised at just how entertaining this will be.

Given that it is the real drivers and the real commentators and there are no issues with wrecking cars I think itll be great to watch. Mind you Id watch wheel barrow racing.

Watch this little clip from a practice run on Monday night.

https://www.supercars.com/videos/championship/first-look-official-eseries-practice-footage/ (https://www.supercars.com/videos/championship/first-look-official-eseries-practice-footage/)
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: edz on April 08, 2020, 10:07:00 AM
Thanks Kev, that narrowed the search down a bit .. 1968 one  XR Falcon GT Automatic raced  along with six  Other Falcon XT GT's .. will keep on digging .
The XT GT Automatic was red in colour # 7D Driven by Spencer Martin and Jim McKeown ..DNF
1969 Bathurst had an XW GT Automatic  # 68E, Driven by Charlie Smith and Bill Ford, finished  9 th outright .
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: Bird on April 08, 2020, 10:18:52 AM
Quote from: Pete79
So are we all going to be signing up to watch the new Supercars E-Series?
I couldn’t think of anything better to do on a Sunday afternoon then sit on my couch and watch a bunch of grown men playing video games.... ::)
x 3.. nearly ran off the road laughing this morning when I heard them advertising it
Series? LMAO! 2 million in prize money?? or just a bunch of mates ****ing around?
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: rockrat on April 08, 2020, 11:01:53 AM
Its on tonight and yes Ill a have a look.

I have an iRacing set up so I have an interest in the simulator. I think you may be pleasantry surprised at just how entertaining this will be.

Given that it is the real drivers and the real commentators and there are no issues with wrecking cars I think itll be great to watch. Mind you Id watch wheel barrow racing.

Watch this little clip from a practice run on Monday night.

https://www.supercars.com/videos/championship/first-look-official-eseries-practice-footage/ (https://www.supercars.com/videos/championship/first-look-official-eseries-practice-footage/)
Is it free to stream or behind a paywall?


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Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: DannyG on April 08, 2020, 11:26:05 AM
Is it free to stream or behind a paywall?


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Yes its free. They are streaming it on facebook and on twitch @supercarschampionship. It is also on fox sports for those that have it, although obviously fox isnt free.
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: VKPrado on April 08, 2020, 12:52:45 PM
Wonder if Speedcafe will stream it as well as they do most other things.
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: DannyG on April 08, 2020, 01:38:15 PM
Some more info for those that want to have a look at what its all about
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: Bird on April 08, 2020, 02:16:22 PM
Some more info for those that want to have a look at what its all about
  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: rockrat on April 08, 2020, 02:37:55 PM
Fair bit of money in Esports though. I had a nephew who got several all expenses paid trips to the US to play Call of Duty.

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Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: VKPrado on April 08, 2020, 03:21:35 PM
Just been confirmed on Speedcafe.

"The BP Supercars All Stars Eseries gets underway tonight at 19:00 AEST and will be live streamed via Speedcafe.com."
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: rockrat on April 08, 2020, 07:33:57 PM
How long does the crap at the beginning last? 25 mins into the broadcast and all I’ve heard is a bunch of people talking crap.


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Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: Pete79 on April 08, 2020, 08:07:23 PM
How long does the crap at the beginning last? 25 mins into the broadcast and all I’ve heard is a bunch of people talking crap.


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So the mods haven’t kicked all the kids off the game server yet?? ;)

Just wait until one of the drivers has too many beers, cracks the s***ts and refuses to admit his is out of the game and won’t hand the controller over to let the next guy to have a turn.... :cheers: ;D



Sorry, I shouldn’t joke, I’m sure some people are taking this computer game seriously.
But to me it kind of makes a mockery out of what is supposed to be a serious, professional, multi million dollar sport.
Turning it into an online gaming series hasn’t done anything to get back this former fan. :(
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: gronk on April 08, 2020, 08:10:59 PM
How long does the crap at the beginning last? 25 mins into the broadcast and all I’ve heard is a bunch of people talking crap.


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Have recorded it, but also watched about 2 laps of it .

Could almost get involved in it.....but, the graphics of the cars and track look just like a 1990's computer game. The input from the drivers to the steering wheel look nothing like a supercar, which is understandable, because it is just a game.
Some people may like it, but for me, it's like watching an animated movie compared to a normal one !!
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: gronk on April 08, 2020, 08:16:22 PM


Just wait until one of the drivers has too many beers, cracks the s***ts and refuses to admit his is out of the game and won’t hand the controller over to let the next guy to have a turn.... :cheers: ;D



On the iracing for Nascar, a driver named Bubba "crashed" 2 times in the 1st 10 laps ( only allowed 2 "crashes per race ), then hit another bloke, who then called him a name, so Bubba said adios and left the game. His sponsor made a comment about taking his bat and ball home and withdrew their sponsorship.
So it gets serious for some !!
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: DannyG on April 09, 2020, 08:51:28 AM
I watched it and thought it was a great show  ;D

Well done to supercars, the drivers and everyone involved in bringing that to television. I have not read too many negative comments on any social media from those that actually watched it from start to finish. In fact most people are praising the whole thing and loved it.

For those that have iracing would know what goes into racing like they were at the end of both races. There were times were you swear you were watching the real thing. At least on the fox streaming anyway.

I look forward to the next rounds. The guys that were crashing will get a better handle on the limitations of online racing and start to mix it with the experienced iracers so itll be action right through the pack.
If I was to be a bit critical, the telecast didnt make use of the brilliant camera and replay angles that iracing offers nor did they explain the iracing platform and limitations of online racing very well. But I guess they only have so much time.

Id be curious to know who actually watched it from start to finish? The start and middle of both races were a little bit 'gaming' like, but the end once the cream came to the top show cased exactly what iracers know the sim is designed for.

And how about Antons genuine disappointment from getting a penalty lol Its just a game son!!
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: DannyG on April 09, 2020, 08:59:45 AM
but, the graphics of the cars and track look just like a 1990's computer game.

Really? I thought it looked pretty good. The amount of computing power it takes to run the physics is massive so I think iracing does a great job considering.

If you want perfect life like graphics then you do actually get just a 'game' because all the computing power can go into making it look pretty, not into actually doing a great job of trying to simulate the driving experience.

I must admit though, tv didnt do a great job of showing the true graphics of the sim. I think it may have been due to server limitations and of course there was some warping which is typing of online gaming.
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: Bird on April 09, 2020, 10:02:33 AM
Quote from: rockrat
How long does the crap at the beginning last? 25 mins into the broadcast and all I’ve heard is a bunch of people talking crap.

so it was realistic like real taxi racing... did they have the bimbo with her prefab questions too just to keep the PC crowd happy?
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: rockrat on April 09, 2020, 11:00:24 AM
I gave up after the first race. I think eSports have a big future but just not sure simulated car racing is going to set the world on fire. Didn’t see any instant consequences for accidents, cars seemed to vanish and reappear.

I don’t play video games much anymore but if I did i would  much rather play than watch someone else play.


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Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: gronk on April 09, 2020, 05:59:31 PM
I watched it and thought it was a great show  ;D

 There were times were you swear you were watching the real thing. At least on the fox streaming anyway.


I watched 2 laps of it and really, at no time did it look anything like the real thing !! I watched it on foxtel, not streaming.
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: GeoffA on April 09, 2020, 06:01:38 PM
so it was realistic like real taxi racing... did they have the bimbo with her prefab questions too just to keep the PC crowd happy?

She is very pretty.... ;D
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: Marcus73 on April 10, 2020, 10:18:30 AM
I thought it was all a bit crap to be honest.


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Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: DGCampin on April 10, 2020, 11:07:25 AM
I watched it and thought it was a great show  ;D

Well done to supercars, the drivers and everyone involved in bringing that to television. I have not read too many negative comments on any social media from those that actually watched it from start to finish. In fact most people are praising the whole thing and loved it.

For those that have iracing would know what goes into racing like they were at the end of both races. There were times were you swear you were watching the real thing. At least on the fox streaming anyway.

I look forward to the next rounds. The guys that were crashing will get a better handle on the limitations of online racing and start to mix it with the experienced iracers so itll be action right through the pack.
If I was to be a bit critical, the telecast didnt make use of the brilliant camera and replay angles that iracing offers nor did they explain the iracing platform and limitations of online racing very well. But I guess they only have so much time.

Id be curious to know who actually watched it from start to finish? The start and middle of both races were a little bit 'gaming' like, but the end once the cream came to the top show cased exactly what iracers know the sim is designed for.

And how about Antons genuine disappointment from getting a penalty lol Its just a game son!!

Yep. i enjoyed it. But i also have an iracing sub, so know how it all works too.  I watched the main broadcast on Kayo, but had twictch going with drivers ownpersonal streams going. they were more entertaining then the main broadcast. Like scotty mac, getting up to go for a piss, with 1 min to go before gridding for the last race, than getting slammed for not washing his hands whenhe got back  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: alnjan on May 07, 2020, 10:03:02 PM
Managed to watch the last two Wednesday nights iracing.  For a game it's not bad, as for entertainment, not bad, for racing value it falls way short of racing.  From an entertainment perspective it was okay up until Baird stepped in and tried to make it real racing.   
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: duggie on May 16, 2020, 07:36:35 AM
Racing is soon to get started .


Sydney becoming the new second round of the 2020 Virgin Australia Supercars Championship in a two-day TV-only event across June 27-28
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: duggie on May 17, 2020, 08:09:40 AM
Revised 2020 Virgin Australia Supercars Championship

June 27-28: Sydney Motorsport Park

July 18-19: Truck Assist Winton

August 8-9: BetEasy Darwin Triple Crown

August 29-30: Townsville

September 19-20: OTR The Bend

October 8-11: Supercheap Auto Bathurst 1000

October 31-November 1: PIRTEK Perth

November 21-22: Tyrepower Tasmania

December 12-13: Penrite Oil Sandown

January 9-10: ITM Auckland

February 5-7: Bathurst
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: duggie on May 17, 2020, 09:05:35 AM
With all of this Covid 19 Shit going on , there has been no mention from any/all of the Holden teams as too what car brand they will be running for the 2021 season .

With the new revised calendar just been released and the 2020 season going on till early February 2021 it won't be giving teams time/manpower to build new cars .
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: Bird on June 02, 2020, 08:27:00 PM
With all of this Covid 19 Shit going on , there has been no mention from any/all of the Holden teams as too what car brand they will be running for the 2021 season .
yep

https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/sport/motorsport/holden-to-leave-supercars-at-the-end-of-2020-season-20200602-p54ymv.html (https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/sport/motorsport/holden-to-leave-supercars-at-the-end-of-2020-season-20200602-p54ymv.html)
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: gronk on June 02, 2020, 09:58:07 PM
With all of this Covid 19 Shit going on , there has been no mention from any/all of the Holden teams as too what car brand they will be running for the 2021 season .



I'd say they'll be racing Holdens.
Holden is dropping their backing....no mention of banning the use of their brand of car ?
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: GeoffA on June 03, 2020, 06:37:55 AM
I'd say they'll be racing Holdens.
Holden is dropping their backing....no mention of banning the use of their brand of car ?

Yep. I reckon they'll run the current cars for a while longer, updating where possible.
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: Bird on June 03, 2020, 10:51:16 AM
 ;D ;D ;D ;D (https://thatsmyphilosophy.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/27842-beating_dead_horse_what.jpg)  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: Bird on June 05, 2020, 12:49:41 PM
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-05/holdens-withdraws-factory-support-to-supercars-championship/12320282?section=sport (https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-05/holdens-withdraws-factory-support-to-supercars-championship/12320282?section=sport)
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: Bird on July 14, 2020, 05:16:42 PM
Heres an investment!

Number 505 Conrod Straight, Bathurst is up for sale, offering motorsports fans a piece of the sacred mountain that goes by the name Panorama.

Yep, for a lazy $2 million you can buy the best seats in the house at the Bathurst 1000 for the next half century, with an uninterrupted view of the fastest slice of blacktop in Australia – the crest of Conrod Straight and into The Chase.

It’s no news that The Mountain is a public road for all but four weekends of the year, making Conrod a part of your daily commute and the Bathurst circuit a relative bitumen moat around your very own castle. It’s the vibe of the thing..

https://www.redbull.com/au-en/bathurst-house-on-conrod-straight-for-sale (https://www.redbull.com/au-en/bathurst-house-on-conrod-straight-for-sale)
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: DGCampin on July 15, 2020, 02:25:28 PM
Heres an investment!

Number 505 Conrod Straight, Bathurst is up for sale, offering motorsports fans a piece of the sacred mountain that goes by the name Panorama.

Yep, for a lazy $2 million you can buy the best seats in the house at the Bathurst 1000 for the next half century, with an uninterrupted view of the fastest slice of blacktop in Australia – the crest of Conrod Straight and into The Chase.

It’s no news that The Mountain is a public road for all but four weekends of the year, making Conrod a part of your daily commute and the Bathurst circuit a relative bitumen moat around your very own castle. It’s the vibe of the thing..

https://www.redbull.com/au-en/bathurst-house-on-conrod-straight-for-sale (https://www.redbull.com/au-en/bathurst-house-on-conrod-straight-for-sale)

That ad is from 4 years ago?  although its probably still for sale
Title: Re: Supercars 2020
Post by: Bird on September 19, 2020, 05:30:42 PM
will be interesting if this gets the go ahead..

https://www.theleader.com.au/story/6932339/bathurst-1000-supercars-presents-its-plans-for-a-covid-safe-event/?cs=12 (https://www.theleader.com.au/story/6932339/bathurst-1000-supercars-presents-its-plans-for-a-covid-safe-event/?cs=12)