Interesting read on electric cars

[Cruiser 105Tvan]

That'll be like the BMW Convertible and the Mazda RX7 along with various others, including a Yellow HSV Monaro.

[edz]

 Electric car charging electric car ,mmmmm    dunno             DAMTC is a Rescue mob in Austria apparently, would have thought they would have LH drive cars over there  ? .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wczZSh1vAVM

[Bird]

still pretending.... 400klm range.. on a good day with the wind behind you downhill with a 400kg payload LMAO

While Rivian and Tesla talk a big game and argue among themselves about who will release the first all-electric pick-up/ute, Nissan and Chinese manufacturer Dongfeng have combined forces to beat them to it with the Rich 6 EV. Based off the Navara's body the Rich ute range traditionally was supplied with either a petrol or diesel engine.

...In the Rich 6 EV, that engine has been replaced by a single 68kWh electric motor that reaches the astounding figures of 119kW and 420Nm. The Nissan Dongfeng collaboration has an uninspiringly low payload of 490kg, along with a claimed top speed of 110km/h and more importantly a claimed range of 403km.
https://mr4x4.com.au/new-navara-electric-ute/

[prodigyrf]

Latest research on CO2 savings with EVs in Australia whereby 75% of our power is currently coal fired-
https://www.thegwpf.com/new-report-electric-cars-have-higher-co2-emissions/
The graph tells the story if you're running one on Tas hydro vs Vic brown coal naturally.

Here's more on how Norway can be a world leader with EV penetration as that article notes with the Hyundai i30 pricing over there-
https://www.theguardian.com/money/2018/jul/02/norway-electric-cars-subsidies-fossil-fuel
I guess you can bankroll anything like that if you've got a big piggybank Future Fund made from North Sea oil and perhaps that should be our tack.
We just want to build a big piggybank for the same with our coal and LNG.

[prodigyrf]

Of course even if the EVs are running on hydro solar and wind that still won't be good enough for the omniscient Green overlords who know what's best for us all-
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-49425402
The further out of reach they are from having to be interrupted by messy trivialities like local elections the better they're able to understand the really big picture on all our behalf    

[Fizzie]

& for another alternative:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-08-30/hydrogen-cars-could-be-commercial-by-2025/11456626

Better range, but same problem with refueling in the bush though!

[sparksy]

& for another alternative:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-08-30/hydrogen-cars-could-be-commercial-by-2025/11456626

Better range, but same problem with refueling in the bush though!

Not here 


So much for reducing greenhouse gasses.

[gronk]

Not here 


So much for reducing greenhouse gasses.

Makes a lot of sense.....run a diesel gennie....probably without a dpf,  to put out a piddling 20A for that one car.
All this renewable talk has been put down by claims it will make almost zero difference to global emissions.

[Bird]

its the future ROTFLMAO

Nissan Leaf $33,000 battery bill
"I bought an electric car from Nissan with 5 years warranty on the battery. They claimed 175km range. From new I only ever got 120km. Now I can BARELY get 35-40km during winter or even 25km if I use the heater. The warranty says the battery is bad if it drops to 8 out of 12 bars, which mine has.

"I took it in and they claim the battery is totally fine and there's nothing wrong with it and gave me a $33,000 invoice for a new one!!!!! Nissan just won't listen and I've run out of all hope. I paid $53,500 for this car and it's pretty useless now." - Phillip Carlson


Here's the official battery replacement quote from Lennock Motors in the ACT. $750 to replace the battery, an incredible $29,600 for the battery, you Nissan chumps. Plus GST: that's $33,385 in total. On a Shitheap worth $12k, on a good day today.




https://autoexpert.com.au/videoblog/astonishing-30k-nissan-leaf-battery-replacement-bill

[edz]

Ahhh But We are doing our bit to "  SAVE THE PLANET "  They scream unlike all you Fossil fuel "  PLANET KILLING CONTAMINATORS "  .....

[Pottsy]

i heard a similar story many moons ago about the Prius and the cost of new batteries, was about a third of the cost of the vehicle if memory serves me right.

[sharkcaver]

And when the time comes for all EV owners to have to replace their battery (which will happen sometime), I bet their EV purchase is then not looking so bright hey!
T'was a good idea at the time....not so good now.

[kizza1]

Ls3 swap

[Bird]

Ls3 swap

LS3 would be bigger than the car LOL

[alnjan]

And when the time comes for all EV owners to have to replace their battery (which will happen sometime), I bet their EV purchase is then not looking so bright hey!
T'was a good idea at the time....not so good now.

That's what makes them renewable, time to trade in on a new one

[edz]

TESLA EV  FIXED .........   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHA6urtPhDQ     
If only ..
Well this one is ok https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFbvYeFO8w4

[Bird]

TESLA EV  FIXED .........   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHA6urtPhDQ     
If only ..
Well this one is ok https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFbvYeFO8w4

Smartcar. Fixed.... but fixed years ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgwzHJo3IXM

[prodigyrf]

Basically they're too dear for most for what they are-
https://www.msn.com/en-au/motoring/news/why-bmw-believes-were-not-ready-for-evs-yet/ar-AAJviuE
whereas Toyota are backing the half way house with hybrids and if you package it up in an SUV people want to buy the guess what?
https://www.carsguide.com.au/car-news/toyota-rav4-hybrid-wait-time-up-to-six-months-but-now-you-can-rent-a-camry-to-tide-you-over
The extra cost for a hybrid will pay you back in around 3 years apparently with largely urban driving (negligible benefit on the highway) whereas the sticker price of EVs won't ever unless fuel prices go sky high.

[prodigyrf]

Still maybe the Chinese Glory will get the moths out your wallets eh?
https://www.msn.com/en-au/motoring/research/is-this-australias-cheapest-mid-size-suv-ev/ar-AAJsg4X
because it looks like Kia have given up for the time being on all you cheap bastards down under not doing your bit to save the planet-
https://www.news.com.au/technology/innovation/motoring/hitech/why-kias-new-eniro-electric-car-is-offlimits-in-australia/news-story/9805176556708e936040e2a641f3853c

[edz]

Bugger your  EV's..         Im going Biological powered     

[Ozsnowman]

James May has got himself a Model S now too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzDzv4NVlfE

[WilSurf]

Interesting doco yesterday on SBS "Who killed the EV1?"

[Paddler Ed]

Interesting doco yesterday on SBS "Who killed the EV1?"

Yep, I wanted an early night... well, that idea went out the window!

It was very interesting in the purchasing of the technology by those who would like to restrict it...

[Pottsy]

Yep, I wanted an early night... well, that idea went out the window!

It was very interesting in the purchasing of the technology by those who would like to restrict it...

Remember Ralph Sarich and his engine, I think that technology was bought and restricted as well.

[prodigyrf]

Remember Ralph Sarich and his engine, I think that technology was bought and restricted as well.

Not quite as the Sarich engine originally offered reduced fuel consumption in response to the Arab oil crisis but its long development time meant conventional piston engine technology along with fuel injection kept pace with that and ultimately Sarich's engine couldn't overcome a number of design problems to compete-
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarich_orbital_engine

Nevertheless the need for direct injection did produce leading technology in that field and in conjunction with Siemens and their Synerject project commercialised that-
http://www.italiaspeed.com/news_2003/news_2003_081orbital.html

As well as developing a direct injection two stroke piston engine that didn't consume oil Orbital Engine Company became an engineering and fuel testing company for other carmakers as a result although that business waned and it would appear with their ability with small engine combustion technology and various fuels they're now well established in the UAV sector-
https://orbitaluav.com/about-us/our-business/

So they've had a few changes of direction over the years from Mr Sarich's initial foray into automotive engines and you can't afford to stand still in any fast moving technological sector but constantly adapt to the marketplace and go where the profitable returns are. There's no conspiracy to be had in a global marketplace as build a better mousetrap and the world will beat a path to your door with plenty of imitators to follow. After all why on earth would you sit on clearly advantageous technology leaving all the returns to others in future? It's an urban myth that anyone or any corporation would do so as it's hard enough kicking and gouging in the existing marketplace with well known technology and you're always looking for an edge over your competitors.