Pat Callinan's 4x4 Adventures Magazine

[JCOJ]

Just recevied an e-mail for an offer to subscribe to Pat's new magazine.

It promotes: far less ads, more content, authentic and honest editorial, plus other things.

I've really enjoyed his tv shows so I've subscribed and look forward to Issue 1!!

[D4D]

I'm trying to think of something constructive to say but I can't....

[McGirr]

Just looked at the website and I will be subscribing. I got bored with rest of the magazines so I will give this one a go...even thou he drives a Nissan

Mark

[DANBRI]

I'm trying to think of something constructive to say but I can't....

'Constructivityism' it happens. 

[cdustbehindme]

Have Pat and Roothy had a tiff    I thought they both started out with 4wd monthly/action.....  Maybe we will see a duel later on.. is it through the same mag group??  

[TOY80ST]

I don't know if I will subscribe but I will definately give it a look. I enjoyed 4WDM before Pat left so let's see if he still has it.

[Symon]

Have Pat and Roothy had a tiff    I thought they both started out with 4wd monthly/action.....  Maybe we will see a duel later on.. is it through the same mag group?? 

I heard it had more to do with Pat having a fallout with Express Publications.

I quite like the guy as well, so will have a look at his mag.

[morgue]

I'm trying to think of something constructive to say but I can't....

I've got one...less adds and crap in between the articles...yeh right!

[Gunna Do]

If he crams as much advertising in his articles as he does in his videos, 30% will seem like 50% anyway.

[Bird]

I'll wait for the first 5-6 to come out, see if its worth it, see how much over priced it is, see how much of th same old same old it is, then the ads will pickup then not subscribe.

[DeLuxHiLux]

Is this on shelves now?? I've had a look and my local didnt have it, and hadnt heard of it.....or is it only those who have subscribed that have received copies so far???

[JCOJ]

Apparantly it will be in the newsagents from Nov 2nd.

[9775Andrew]

What a lot of TOSS

not one of these mags will outright state one product is better than the other. Dont know how many times I've bought an issue of a mag becuase of a "comparo" without the end result sayinf so long as you're out there.

no cred to any of them

just my two cents worth of course

[SteveandViv]

What a lot of TOSS

not one of these mags will outright state one product is better than the other. Dont know how many times I've bought an issue of a mag becuase of a "comparo" without the end result sayinf so long as you're out there.

no cred to any of them

just my two cents worth of course

I don't know why you feel they have to *decide*. They are there to put all the facts on the table and then lets us decide. Yes you have to read between the lines some times I agree. Of course there not going to say X is better than Y but they do tell you if one feature fails or does not do as suggested and they do tend to offer specs when they can. I just don't read a mag to be told what to buy. I do like to have all the facts they put together after a test.

It's to complex to state a winner when there are so many variables like a winch for example. One maybe cheaper but not as fast. One maybe not so good when under water but what if you live in a area where you never winch in water why would you pay for a Warn...

Just my two cents worth as well. No insults intended but I think we read to much into what the mags are trying to do which is bring to alls attention new products for consideration plus thoughts on what maybe best for X - X being what you do or I do which are never the same.

Also, and this is my main point. They just don't have to cater to you and me, those who have already got tons of stuff. They are writing for those who are now to the market for new gear and there are tons of those. Might seem wrong but when did any one really get any thing they didn't or think they didn't know from the mag.

I don't think it's all that bad. The new product reviews and stuff around that area, mods, laws etc are more than enough for me to but the mag each Month.

Pat won't do much different. He is a great guy and is like all of us in that he is passionate about the 4WD scene. But at the end of the day there will be similarities between the three or four mags no matter what...

Oh well. just IMO so no one should take offence please. If you do then you'll have to come to Broome to tell me 

[mystq]

Last time I watched his TV show he was flogging everything, reminds me of Roothy,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

[qlddsl]

I don't know why you feel they have to *decide*. They are there to put all the facts on the table and then lets us decide. Yes you have to read between the lines some times I agree. Of course there not going to say X is better than Y but they do tell you if one feature fails or does not do as suggested and they do tend to offer specs when they can. I just don't read a mag to be told what to buy. I do like to have all the facts they put together after a test.

It's to complex to state a winner when there are so many variables like a winch for example. One maybe cheaper but not as fast. One maybe not so good when under water but what if you live in a area where you never winch in water why would you pay for a Warn...

Just my two cents worth as well. No insults intended but I think we read to much into what the mags are trying to do which is bring to alls attention new products for consideration plus thoughts on what maybe best for X - X being what you do or I do which are never the same.

Also, and this is my main point. They just don't have to cater to you and me, those who have already got tons of stuff. They are writing for those who are now to the market for new gear and there are tons of those. Might seem wrong but when did any one really get any thing they didn't or think they didn't know from the mag.

I don't think it's all that bad. The new product reviews and stuff around that area, mods, laws etc are more than enough for me to but the mag each Month.

Pat won't do much different. He is a great guy and is like all of us in that he is passionate about the 4WD scene. But at the end of the day there will be similarities between the three or four mags no matter what...,

Oh well. just IMO so no one should take offence please. If you do then you'll have to come to Broome to tell me 

well said, the mags can be a greatr source of info for the newby and even the more expirenced.i havnt found the comparos biased at all, with some  cheap brand exceeding the well known stuff (also havnt seen the cheap stuff advertised in the mags) im sure pats mags will be of similar quality, as his tv series has been. SteveandViv, tried to convince the wife that i was offended, but only so we could go to broome love it up there, was up there 6 years ago and was ready to move up the next day. cant wait to get back up there cheers wayne

[briann532]

If everyone really wants a mag with great articles, good realistic product reviews, minimal advertising and great subscription offers, I can provide one

All we need to do is get some of the fantastic articles off the site, combine it with the wealth of knowledge here, chuck in the humour and shoot anyone who evens mentions electrickery.
Photos here are fantastic and abundant, all though Danbris' collection may have to be veto'ed !!!!
Some of his pics are a worry.
Speewa can be our editor
Now if the positions open, I'll retire and do some product reviews and real life testing for a large fee
Donations can be made from all manufacturers.
I'll start this month with a product review of the landrover disco 4, Kedron trailer, canon cameras, and all accomodation stops between Sideney and Broome.

Assistants welcome to come along.......

Reporting back as soon as the funds roll in,
Brian

[Chippy76]

a myswag mag ....... Id buy that!
lol
cheers chippy

[mystq]

a myswag mag ....... Id buy that!
lol
cheers chippy

What about the sub mag, Electrical 

[SteveandViv]

What about the sub mag, Electrical 

Great idea. And we can then do a *Comparro* on 6b&s cable 

[DeLuxHiLux]

Great idea. And we can then do a *Comparro* on 6b&s cable 

thats Gold!!!!! then we can have a flame war and then lock the thread, just to maintain consistancy.....

I'll just say this SteveandVic, that the mainstream mags do try and cater for a wide audience, but somethimes their "opinions" are pretty wishy-washy, and i think what we'd all appreciate is a bit more definitive comment from time to time.

Also, and slightly off topic, can anyone explain how they can decide on a "4x4OTY" or Ute OTY when they only review anything thats new or vastly changed? I reckon they should review All currently available models, not just the new ones. THATS what the punter who is looking for a new 4x4 wants to read. Not that the Navara is bette rthan the Disco 4 and the Triton and Ssangyong and the Lada Niva mk III because they because they are the new models this year. I"m not Land Rover fan (I dislike the things actually, a Massey Fergusson has more refinement than a Defender, but the Disco isnt bad) but the Defender never appears in these "Of the Year" things because it hasn't been upgraded in 2,000,000 years!! And they are a pretty good truck, well a tough truck, if you like tractors but you get my point. a very capable 4x4. Why not just grab the top 10 or 15 selling (with maybe a few "guest" appearances from the lesser selling models or brand new ones so its not just a Toyota and Nissan festival) and have them fight it out. be a much better representation of the current market.........

[albany_nomads]

I've got one...less adds and crap in between the articles...yeh right!

Hi Morgue..In the words of ODD BALL out of the  Movie KELLY HERO's you need to chill out  and think positive
The last number of threads Ive read that you appear in you seem awfully depressed and negative..if youre not carefull you will end up turning into a grumpy old man.      Lifes great,  we all love you  man  

[Symon]

a myswag mag ....... Id buy that!
lol
cheers chippy

Can you imagine it?  I'd love to see darren's 'opinion' article on the last page...

[Bird]

i havnt found the comparos biased at all

you dont read many do you?

[Blue Bravo]

He tows a cub so can't be all bad