Smokers in camp grounds and parks

[firefox]

Hi everyone,
So I'd love some experience on this topic. Firstly I'm not a smoker. Not even close. We had an incident today which I've not come across in the past years whilst being permanently on the road.

We pulled in today to a site in a caravan park. Anyhow without knowing the site behind us are serious chain smokers. There was four of them, each person going through at least 3-4 cigs am hour. It was a constant smell coming from the site. Now I wasn't the only person to complain as there were 2 prior. It was  out of control.

Anyhow spoke to manager whom said they needed advice prior to speaking with the smokers. We got back and it was smoke everywhere. You couldn't get away from it.

Anyhow I politely went and had a chat asking them to be mindful of other campers. As you can imagine that went down well. Told me where to go.. I went down dragged the managers out and told them to do with it. Which they did , though they weren't to happy about dealing with. Once they got a speaking to from the manager the problem instantly disappeared. Even had two guys come past and say thanks for speaking up.

Now my question is. Was this acceptable? I am always very careful of not annoying others around me. Do other smokers watch out? Have you encounter this before and what have you done.

I am fully aware of the qld laws which effectively make what they did illegal today. But.. What would u do. We couldn't sit outside with it the way it was. I would have had to sit inside windows closed and aircon on recirc.

Thoughts?

[D4D]

Good on you but I'd be watching my gear and tanks etc. for reprisals.

[firefox]

They are retired old people. No offence but the managers whee concerned about that. If I got up and found an issue would simple call the police. It's recorded they were spoken to. Good luck if they do something dumb.

[McGirr]

Whether its smoking, drinking, noise you respect who is around you. Unfortunately some people are not like that. To them it's their right to do these things.

Mark

[Ben.Archer]

Well done.  You were perfectly in the right to ask them to stop and escalate when told where to go. 

I know there will be those who will say "Yes but they are a legal drug and they were smoking in a legal location."  However if they were materially affecting you, potentially your health and certainly your enjoyment of the outside you were totally within your rights.

[Bill]

What Qld law were they breaking by smoking?
Misses and I are both smokers and do our best to be considerate of others.
We also never ever throw our butts on the ground.
Bill

[Nomad]

I smoke but you no one would ever be interrupted or disturbed by it I hope. I usually walk away somewhere quiet to have a smoke.

[firefox]

Hi mark,
Yep I agree its exactly what i do and feel. i always make sure not anonying anyone, even make sure the kids are not noisy etc.

bill i looked up the new smoking laws in qld today and found out that if you smoke in any place and it affects another party you as the smoker are required to address the problem. the particular examples used for example relate to someone smoking on their balcony of a house. if you neighbour complains above you they are completely within their right and as a smoker you had to do something. this was confirmed as i am travelling with my parents that own a number of high rise buildings about 6 months ago this was an issue that was brought up and as owners of the building they had to ensure peoples rights etc.

ive had lots of smokers around me, and i can tollerate it but not something when you can breathe and really its just smoke you are getting.

[JCOJ]

I think you absolutely did the right thing.

I was at the opening criterium of this years Tour Down Under and there was a lady chain smoking. She'd finish one then get straight onto the next one. I went up to her and politely asked her to stop as it was being blown down a few metres to where my boys were.

She basically told me to get stuffed until I got a bit narky and told her she was being inconsiderate and if she wanted to kill herself then at least she could do it where she wasn't going to take my boys with her. It was a packed crowd and I got a big round of applause and put her in her place right away. No more cigarette smoke that night!

I can't stand the smell of it and have no qualms about telling smokers to stop being inconsiderate.

Good on you!!

[firefox]

i totally agree jcoj, i told them didnt want to kill my kids.

i have no problems with someone wanting a smoke and they want to kill themselves, but please just be nice and accept other people dont want it.

one of the guys was a joke, started asking me if i never had a smoke then how would i know what cig smoke was.. even asked me the type, then he said it was methnol and not harmful to anyone. told him id prefer to breathe diesel fumes then all those smokes.

[evolution]

Good on you, I smoke and even I would be annoyed with that. If someone tells me its annoying them I'll get up off my arse and move to where it won't. Its my choice to inhale this crap, not Thiers.
Same as I don't smoke near the kids, I don't want them to have problems from my poor decisions.

Cheers
Evo

[Ynot]

Good on you for addressing it, pity they couldn't have been more considerate and mature with their response.


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[D4D]

What's actually worse is they let these people breed...

[lino6]

Yep everyone has right to smoke, and everyone has a right to not be effected by second hand smoke. Good on you Firefox for standing up.

The saddest thing it seems these days is we need to start referring to uncommon courtesy.

[austastar]

Hi,
  I read some where in response to a 'Stop polluting my air with your smoke..."


" Yes you are entitled to your pleasure.


My pleasure is beer, but I don't stand up and pee all over your campsite, do I?"


cheers

[Black Diamond]

Absolutely you did the right thing. There was always the possibility that they were oblivious to the issue(unlikely) but when somebody approaches you and raises the issue, there is no need for that sort of behaviour. Unfortunately for them or maybe me if I was in your position it would have got ugly so well done for holding your nerve. Too many tiprats around.

[brickiematt]

I like to think of myself as a considerate smoker.
I smoke a lot less camping than I do at home, and always move away from others and try to stay downwind if I can.
I enjoy a smoke with a beer, or with my coffee in the morning, but I don't want to inflict it on others.

I can't stand the smell of it and have no qualms about telling smokers to stop being inconsiderate.

Maybe I should quit before the red Centre trip eh John

[scarps]

They are retired old people. No offence but the managers whee concerned about that. If I got up and found an issue would simple call the police. It's recorded they were spoken to. Good luck if they do something dumb.

jeez I hope they don't do anything to damage the Rangie........

p.s. You were well within your rights to ask

[Jeepers Creepers]

I mow outside some shops for a client.

Always, and I mean ALWAYS, there are butts everywhere. "Most smokers" I've seen would be the grubbiest cretins on the earth.

NOTE: If you dispose of your butts correctly, disregard the above statement.

[Spada]

What Qld law were they breaking by smoking?

I think it's a bit like urinating.

It's perfectly legal in the right place..................but not socially acceptable to piss all over the bloke next to you ?

[wilson79]

Good Work mate..

I have had a simular battle at a footy game once which ended in the guy being escorted out of the grounds by a cheering crowd..

I  have had many battles at work sites with smokers over the years a lot of them think its okay to just stop work whenever they want and have a dart which as a manager annoyed the crap out of me, it got to the stage at one place that all the non smokers would also stop work and have a "fresh air break" at the same time the smokers where having their smoke breaks it was a very testing time.. I had to provide a sheltered area for the smokers to congregate and waste company time at a cost of 2k and was not allowed to put in a $200 table tennis table in the crib room for the non smokers to have a bit of fun in their "designated" lunch break.

Again I don't have an issue with smokers a couple of my mates are smokers, but some of them think smoking means you can just stop work whenever you want and everyone else should just suck it up..

Again this is not a picture painted on ALL smokers just a few..

Maybe I should have put this in the daily rant section!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Aaron Schubert]

Smokers are a small minority these days, and should be more concerned about where they smoke. You did the right thing

Aaron

[terravista]

Perhaps this thread could be added to the invention thread from a few days ago, and someone could design a wide brim hat fitted with a solar/battery driven extractor fan to pump the smoke through a filter in the crown. A stronger motor could be an optional extra to act like a temporary face lift to get rid of all the wrinkles the smokers develop as they age.
This S.H.F (Smokers Headwear Filter) could simply be like a lightweight rangehood worn on the head a bit like a modified Cone of Silence Maxwell Smart used, but smaller and lighter, and hopefully working more often.

[froggy]

The part that annoys me is when people smoke in or just have before they go into the toilets. Disgusting.

[chetty]

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