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Smoking in Queensland National Parks

Started by duggie, January 31, 2017, 07:10:59 PM

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NewieCamper

I see more restriction as a good thing. While I respect the right of those who do to continue to smoke, it doesn't appear to do anything positive except to those with an addiction. restricting smoking significantly reduces the number of discarded butts and in national parks also reduces fire risk.

Pubs, clubs, restaurants, public transport and all the other places it has been banned are soooo much better to visit now you don't end up going home smelling like a chimney. Not having to put up with someone puffing away in the stands at the footy, or on the sideline at your kids game is great too.

I'm not a smoker, never have been so I don't get the attraction of sucking poison stuff into your lungs for pleasure. I'm happy for less second hand smoke, everywhere. I had to flip the AC to recirc in the car yesterday morning because the car in front of me had a smoker in it and the smoke was getting into my car in the traffic queue - it stinks.

The more places it is restricted, hopefully the less smokers there will be, which is good for long term health of the community.

areyonga

My sister has just passed away from passive smoking (breathing in others smoke) and I miss her very much, she never smoked herself, so the sooner all the smokers fill their lungs with cancer and die the better.  Ban it altogether.
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Footy Shorts Shane

Quote from: areyonga on February 02, 2017, 01:59:11 PM
so the sooner all the smokers fill their lungs with cancer and die the better. 

Nice.... ::)
With enough horse power, sheer ignorance and a total lack of respect for your vehicle, you'll get through....

areyonga

Quote from: Footy Shorts Shane on February 02, 2017, 02:06:06 PM
Nice.... ::)
If your going to quote then quote the whole message and show the reason for it
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Footy Shorts Shane

Quote from: areyonga on February 02, 2017, 01:59:11 PM
My sister has just passed away from passive smoking (breathing in others smoke) and I miss her very much, she never smoked herself,

Sorry to hear about your sister.

Quote from: areyonga on February 02, 2017, 01:59:11 PM
the sooner all the smokers fill their lungs with cancer and die the better.

Again, nice........ ::)

Quote from: areyonga on February 02, 2017, 01:59:11 PM
Ban it altogether.

For health reasons, I agree.

With enough horse power, sheer ignorance and a total lack of respect for your vehicle, you'll get through....

areyonga

I guess I was a bit strong on the subject, but grief makes people say things as they see them and its unfortunate that smoking has been the demise of so many people, smokers and nonsmokers over the years. 
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duggie

G,day


I started this thread as a notice to those on this forum about the changes when camping in the Queensland National Parks , not because I wanted to start a s#!t fight , but because I wanted to alert members .

I stated that yes I am a smoker very early in this thread, I also stated that I am more than happy to accept this and indulge in a durrie outside the required 10 metres.

My comment about rent , was a tongue in cheek , comment .


This is a question that I fired at the Queensland National parks ,

"  I am a smoker , and I do not have a problem with this new restriction on smoking . 10 metres ? From where ? The sign that has the camp site number on it ? The middle of the camp site ? Where is the 10 metre ruling applied from .
I often camp in the north Queensland Nat Parks and often these camp sites are huge. So again where does the 10 metre ruling start .Unlike a school ground , there are no defined boundaries around camp sites."



And this is an answer from the Queensland National Parks.

" Good question . A lot of our parks have defined camp sites, but for the ones that don't you can use this rule: If a tent or a caravan's been set up, you need to be 10 metres away from that."
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briann532

I'm not a smoker, but Jeeez I sure do have a gripe with smokers!!!!

Obviously none of the smokers on myswag are guilty of this but............

Why smoke right next to your baby and hold the ciggie behind your back while taking puffs???
Surely that's like having a peeing section in a pool!!! ???

Numerous times I have been camped up and had people wander away from their camp or caravan site and wander over in front of ours to light up. WTF? seriously go back and poison your own family.

I am also sick and tired of having dirty ciggy butts flicked onto my bonnet. If you are too lazy to use your ashtray throw your damn self out of the window!!!
Its called littering you "tosser"

I also work on new homes being built and am tired of every tradie coming in and lighting up inside. Apart from the fact that your are sticking out someone's new home, I'm in here so take your stinking cancer stick outside.

I actually don't have a problem with smoking or smokers, but I have a massive problem with the attitudes of some of them.

I drink. Not a lot, but I enjoy a few occasionally. OK hate me for it and claim I'm stupid.
I don't abuse it, the AMA claims it's safe in moderation and I don't tip my dregs all over your clothes so they stink of beer.
I also don't drop my empties on the floor or in your house, or at traffic lights.
I also don't spill it into babies lungs or mouths or make other people drink it unwillingly then yell at them if they tell me not to.

So there's my rant.....
No problems with smokers, but hate the ignorant attitude some people have. Yes I know it applies to other things, but we're talking about smoking.

Flame suit on...............
Brian
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#jonesy

Then ban would have nothing to do about cigarette butts.
It will be in line with the universal move to restrict second hand smoke. Although I do think it is funny you have to move away from you r own campsite.

Yes I am an ex smoker. I gave up years ago befor it was trendy. It never worried me being around smokers, so long as they didn't blow it my face. However over time we have all been exposed to less and less cigarette smoke and now it s...ts me when I am exposed to it, only because it stinks. 
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Spada

I haven't read the rules. but if your in bed inside your own caravan in a national park, are you allowed to smoke ?????????????

what's a bloke supposed to do in those few minutes between coitus and snoring if you cant have a durrie?
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gronk

Quote from: Spada on February 02, 2017, 07:16:49 PM
I haven't read the rules. but if your in bed inside your own caravan in a national park, are you allowed to smoke ?????????????

what's a bloke supposed to do in those few minutes between coitus and snoring if you cant have a durrie?

If the missus is only too happy to suck in your smoke I can't see why not.....and who is going to catch you doing it.( or the other thing either ?? )  ;D

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PWE

Quote from: duggie on February 01, 2017, 11:55:45 AM
I was just having a thoughtie about all this .


I have paid my fees to camp in xyz Nat Park.

Am I renting this site , by way of payment ?

If I am renting then under the Australia Tenancy Laws , I can't be banned from smoking .

Except if your rental agreement states - no smokers
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duggie

Quote from: PWE on February 03, 2017, 11:58:52 AM
Except if your rental agreement states - no smokers


My comment about rent , was a tongue in cheek , comment .
" Old Nissans Just Keep On Truckin On "

Merts

Quote from: duggie on February 03, 2017, 12:22:13 PM

My comment about rent , was a tongue in cheek , comment .

That's a problem with written communication in a forum. The subtleties of the spoken word don't always come through as intended, including whether your tongue is in your cheek, so you shouldn't be too surprised when people respond directly to what you've said.
Towing a a National Campers 'Hermit 10' hybrid with an MQ Triton. Previously towed an Outback Campers 'Sturt' softfloor. (PM me if you want to buy the Sturt!)

duggie

Quote from: Merts on February 03, 2017, 12:35:02 PM
That's a problem with written communication in a forum. The subtleties of the spoken word don't always come through as intended, including whether your tongue is in your cheek, so you shouldn't be too surprised when people respond directly to what you've said.


Water of a duck's back. ;D ;D


I have always liked a good debate . :cheers:
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Merts

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The Caseys

I am a smoker.

You would never knew Ismoked at my campsite, not a butt in view.

I rented, no smoking allowed on the premises, I obey.

I go as far away from people at work that don't smoke and they follow me.

I am more than considerate of non-smokers and will continue to do so.

But if I camp and am away from everyone and someone comes along and wants to camp beside me I will warn them that I am a smoker, stay or move on.

That's my stance on it.  I will quit smoking when I feel like doing so, the government can bring in all the laws they like, but it is legal.

Steffo1

Quote from: The Caseys on February 03, 2017, 06:30:06 PM

I will quit smoking when I feel like doing so
Mate, I smoked for 40 years & I truly hope  quitting for you is sooner than later. All the best with it.
Steve
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