Interesting read on electric cars

[#jonesy]

I should say public transport should be upgraded first...

Hear that all the time but how? 
Rail can only get so big. Your destination has to be close to the station.
Trams not much better.
Buses take a along time. 
My trip to work is 25 min, as I go in a circle around Melbourne.
Train would be walk to the station 10 min.  Train to Clifton Hill 35 min. Swap trains, 10 minutes and back out on the Mernda line. 35 min.  Walk to work. 10.10 min. Over 1 1/2 hours all going well.
Bus is over 1 hour, plus walking time.

Public transport can't tow my camper.
Cant load a week's shopping onto public transport.
Tradies can't carry tools

Everytime I hear public transport should be improved it sounds like we want other people to use public transport to leave the roads clear for me. 

[gronk]

There's 6 Supercharger sites on the common routes from here to Adelaide.

Putting enough charge to comfortably return takes about 15m (a coffee stop).


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From memory, a supercharger will take approx 30mins, from 1/2 charged, so you'd need 2 of those.
No problem if you don't mind waiting around, but these days it's all about convenience, and electric cars are just not there yet.

I'll wait around for the nuclear fuel cell cars to arrive before I go away from conventional piston engines !!

[Harbourmaster]

Old school manual card machines, are they still an option?

They weren't when i retired 3 years ago after 22 years in a service station in the mid north of SA Had signs made up to put on every pump & still got people who didn't read them so used to make them come in to explain before we started the pump. could still do amex diners & fuel cards manually.
Also in emergency situations the police could shut us down to save fuel for emergency vehicles, Fire Police Ambulance Hospital staff etc

[Bird]

Hear that all the time but how? 
Rail can only get so big. Your destination has to be close to the station.
Trams not much better.
Buses take a along time. 
My trip to work is 25 min, as I go in a circle around Melbourne.
Train would be walk to the station 10 min.  Train to Clifton Hill 35 min. Swap trains, 10 minutes and back out on the Mernda line. 35 min.  Walk to work. 10.10 min. Over 1 1/2 hours all going well.
Bus is over 1 hour, plus walking time.

Public transport can't tow my camper.
Cant load a week's shopping onto public transport.
Tradies can't carry tools

Everytime I hear public transport should be improved it sounds like we want other people to use public transport to leave the roads clear for me.

You are right with PT doesnt go everywhere - but it could be pretty good if it was reliable, safe and clean..  But other countries have safe PT that runs faultless as they have seriously invested year in year out over the last 50 years. Spotless clean safe trains run every 3-4 mins etc...
We havent spent Shit, and its now a multi billion $ problem in every city in AU.
None of our cities were ever planned, they were just "Added to" - most upgrades to freeways seem to come out at the same black spot where everyone crawls.

Roads in AU cities are at gridlock - look at the monash, or eastern, or any in Shitney... or Brissy...

FWIW,
from Franga to Box hill by bus for me would be 2hr 30min, or train into town hour, then train back out hour.. so it wont work for me.. but as you say less on the road, better for me

[gronk]

Roads in AU cities are at gridlock - look at the monash, or eastern, or any in Shitney... or Brissy...

After venturing into Sydney last Saturday ( a rare event ), I was almost going to post up how sorry I felt for city dwellers !!

Ha ha....nah, you all deserve it for living in a sh*t fight......

[rockrat]

After venturing into Sydney last Saturday ( a rare event ), I was almost going to post up how sorry I felt for city dwellers !!

Ha ha....nah, you all deserve it for living in a sh*t fight......

Different strokes for different folks. I live less than 5km from the middle of Brisbane city and love it.


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[gronk]

Different strokes for different folks. I live less than 5km from the middle of Brisbane city and love it.


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Yep, I don't get why people like living in a city.....that's probably why I don't !!   

[edz]

So your handy with DC wiring set ups .. So build your own EV  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKR8Or6Im6w  ..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmqJ6Oruh2A

[bmwfreak]

Saw this today at Eat Street, Brisbane (sorry if it has already been posted)




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[tombie]

Very nice. $320k worth of hybrid there...

0-100km/h in 4.4 seconds and 2.4l/100km.


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[gronk]

Very nice. $320k worth of hybrid there...

0-100km/h in 4.4 seconds and 2.4l/100km.


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Saw a few over in Europe last year.....but for 320K, I'd prefer a screaming V8 sound escaping from the exhaust pipe thanks !! 

[PWE]

Very nice. $320k worth of hybrid there...

0-100km/h in 4.4 seconds and 2.4l/100km.


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Tesla Model 3 Performance
0-100km/hr in 3.2 seconds and 0l/100km
Cost $100k ish
Single charge 518km
About $30 to fully charge at a Super charger

And yes, the g-force is assume!

[Bird]

Saw this today at Eat Street, Brisbane (sorry if it has already been posted)

one crusing the eastlink lots lately with a 'look at me' attitude holding everyone up in the right lane.

[Fizzie]

one crusing the eastlink lots lately with a 'look at me' attitude holding everyone up in the right lane.

In a Beemer  

No!

[Bird]

In a Beemer  

No!

[edz]

Yeah I'd have a go .  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1SrE_cBoTc .

[edz]

Ever wondered about the self drive feature in wet conditions ..  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCZ56T16wvc  dont think I would trust it, but seems to do ok ..

[edz]

Well same as cars bikes planes and trucks ...Look out boaties its your turn .. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EqUY_MKQsY  Actualy dont mind the use of Electric power for boats .

So thinking out loud .. Being on a boat, it would be easy to augment the battery power with solar,  mount a couple of  ducted  VAWT style wind turbines ..  saltwater / chemical  dc power generator and even a towed hydro DC generator .... Unless you had a major electrical fault you potentialy should never run out of power .
You could never carry enough fuel to give that sort of range if needed short of wind or Nuclear power .

[Fizzie]

Check this one out, Edz

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9lGhwyVF6U&feature=youtu.be

50nm at ~20kn isn't too bad

Can't say the same about €245000 though

[edz]

https://insideevs.com/news/403281/tesla-model-3-lamborghini-sounds/?fbclid=IwAR0tU2WsL8xPT5Unkao_hcQw965pQIXV9behh6RyPcy23OkSoEx6OGQjtW0  It had to happen 

[Spada]

https://insideevs.com/news/403281/tesla-model-3-lamborghini-sounds/?fbclid=IwAR0tU2WsL8xPT5Unkao_hcQw965pQIXV9behh6RyPcy23OkSoEx6OGQjtW0  It had to happen 

Cool, wonder if I could fit it to my golf buggy 

[edz]

Fit up one of these https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9XAC-BvUyo . to run off the speed  controler ..

[Fizzie]

& on the subject of Teslas

https://electrek.co/2019/11/30/tesla-model-s-1-million-km/

"The most recent battery pack is going on almost half a million kilometers (310,000 miles) with very little battery degradation.

Tesla also finally figure out the problem that would cause issues to the drive unit in early Model S vehicles and now, Gemmingen's latest drive unit has over 680,000 km on it."

"He (Musk) also added that Tesla is working on a new battery that lasts 1 million miles and it could come out as soon as next year."

Now that sounds like what we all need in our vans / CTs

[Bigfish]

Case have developed a backhoe using batteries...sounds promising..

https://newatlas.com/automotive/case-electric-backhoe-loader-project-zeus/?fbclid=IwAR2AUidtRqCimShXr83msNdSYUDAhYymG5qYaEqBCKLN-IgwyzqsYNBQQ4o

[prodigyrf]

Still half a dozen popular SUVs on the Launch pad after a year charging them up in the showrooms and you can grab a demo bargain if the pay check is a bit low this week-
https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/hyundai/kona/electric-launch-edition-badge/
Or are you fans all hanging out for the Tesla truck?