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Started by Alan Loy, March 09, 2019, 03:35:50 PM

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Alan Loy

Just came across these, http://modcon.com.au/c3-hybrid made OS as all the new Modcons seem to be. Does anyone know how tough they are? Any other comments?

Kangaron

There seem to be a plethora of these coming out of China lately, many different brands, all look very similar. We had a look mat a few at the Bendigo Leisure fest last November, very claustrophobic, but one mans meat is another mans poison.

Steffo1

Quote from: Kangaron on March 09, 2019, 04:07:07 PM
There seem to be a plethora of these coming out of China lately, many different brands, all look very similar. We had a look mat a few at the Bendigo Leisure fest last November, very claustrophobic, but one mans meat is another mans poison.

Had a look at one a couple of weeks ago. Have to agree with the claustro.
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Moxley

Must be pretty strong because they're pretty heavy.


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tryagain

Basically a complete campsite exodus knock off, there was a post or two about them a little while back.
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Alan Loy

Quote from: tryagain on March 09, 2019, 05:36:38 PM
Basically a complete campsite exodus knock off, there was a post or two about them a little while back.
Love the complete campsite exodus, I imagine the $70/80,000 extra buys you more than just Australian labour costs

Alan Loy

Quote from: Moxley on March 09, 2019, 05:11:42 PM
Must be pretty strong because they're pretty heavy.
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Bird

Quote from: Kangaronvery claustrophobic,

I see most of them like that.
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Quote from: Alan Loy on March 09, 2019, 06:25:50 PM
I'm not sure weight equals strength ( I suspect you agree  :laugh: :laugh:)

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tryagain

Quote from: Alan Loy on March 09, 2019, 06:24:21 PM
Love the complete campsite exodus, I imagine the $70/80,000 extra buys you more than just Australian labour costs

Yeah, decent quality control, adaptability when ordering, and probably better materials  in many instances. For some (probably many) the price difference over the CC Exodus means that they are things they are happy to live with.
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Quote from: tryagain on March 10, 2019, 05:06:52 AM
Yeah, decent quality control, adaptability when ordering, and probably better materials  in many instances. For some (probably many) the price difference over the CC Exodus means that they are things they are happy to live with.

Correct, people are willing to pay less and compromise on toughness and quality, just look at how many people buy vehicles other than a Toyota??
It is a good thing the internet was not around when Snowy 1.0 was built, Toyota got a kicking in the paper and it would have been worse if the internet was around.
Anyway, for me it is about a principle that you do not knock-off someone else design (skip the R&D fun part) and sell it as your own. Most will see $80k vs $40k, and to be honest, more people camping means holiday money stay in Australia, which is good.
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Quote from: PWE on March 10, 2019, 10:04:14 AMAt least China is buy the iron ore from Australia.

And the alumium, and the copper, and the coal, and the gas, and the etc., etc., etc..

Without China, Australia would be on the skids.

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I think we would all like to spend $70k plus on Australian made hybrids but reality is we cannot.

As mentioned imported brands are getting better compared to years ago. There are some good Chinese models on the market and nearly all look the same  ;D. The "they copied this and that from them" argument doesn't have any pull these days.

Regarding paying less for quality, the norm in the Australian made caravan industry is expect issues when buying new.

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tryagain

Quote from: McGirr on March 10, 2019, 11:23:10 AM
Regarding paying less for quality, the norm in the Australian made caravan industry is expect issues when buying new.

Mark

Best off sticking to campers then  ;)
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outbackogre

Quote from: KingBilly on March 09, 2019, 10:05:05 PM
What about this?

https://www.jayco.com.au/promo/crosstrak

KB

Thanks KB.  I didn't know about these until your post.  Has anybody seen one in the flesh?  They look ok on paper, and a reasonable price.
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whitey001

Quote from: outbackogre on March 10, 2019, 05:36:07 PM
Thanks KB.  I didn't know about these until your post.  Has anybody seen one in the flesh?  They look ok on paper, and a reasonable price.

Saw it at the Caravan & Camping show.  On paper, I liked it.  In the flesh, not so much.  Not enough kitchen storage.  Small fridge slide.  Under bed storage not accessible enough from the outside & no protection for the underside of the cooker.  Door doesn't open properly with the awning out.  Too many things that aren't an easy fix.  For me, the C3 is a much better option.

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JusyApples

There is a Facebook group for modcon owners. Early indications from the new C3 owners seem to be positive but it's only early days so I guess wait and see


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Quote from: PWE on March 10, 2019, 10:04:14 AM
for me it is about a principle that you do not knock-off someone else design (skip the R&D fun part) and sell it as your own.

I have a little sympathy for Modcon in this regard after developing the forward fold, for everyone else to then copy it.
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edz

Wonder if they still just Blow holes in the chassis with an oxy, looks pretty ugly or they place them and drill them properly before they get gal dipped ..?  Could be  possible they missed a couple of proper vent holes and the Gal Dippers did it, Would have to crawl under for a look .
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Quote from: whitey001 on March 10, 2019, 05:49:15 PM
Saw it at the Caravan & Camping show.  On paper, I liked it.  In the flesh, not so much.  Not enough kitchen storage.  Small fridge slide.  Under bed storage not accessible enough from the outside & no protection for the underside of the cooker.  Door doesn't open properly with the awning out.  Too many things that aren't an easy fix.  For me, the C3 is a much better option.

Al.

Thanks Al.  I think the C3 claims to have a full queen size bed.  Do you happen to know how wide the bed is on the Crosstrak? 
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whitey001

Quote from: outbackogre on March 11, 2019, 07:30:36 AM
Thanks Al.  I think the C3 claims to have a full queen size bed.  Do you happen to know how wide the bed is on the Crosstrak?

I reckon it was a bit smaller in width than a queen size from memory. 

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