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Re: Pacific Highway Bypass of Coffs Harbour
« Reply #150 on: January 31, 2019, 09:51:10 AM »
For those who live around Coffs Harbour region.

Alnjan,  dont know if you have seen this or know about it.

https://www.pacifichighway.nsw.gov.au/coffsharbourbypass
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Re: Pacific Highway Bypass of Coffs Harbour
« Reply #151 on: January 31, 2019, 12:22:08 PM »
For those who live around Coffs Harbour region.

Alnjan,  dont know if you have seen this or know about it.

https://www.pacifichighway.nsw.gov.au/coffsharbourbypass

Yeah Mark regularly on the RMS site. 
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Re: Pacific Highway Bypass of Coffs Harbour
« Reply #152 on: January 31, 2019, 12:33:50 PM »
 
Yeah Mark regularly on the RMS site.
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Re: Pacific Highway Bypass of Coffs Harbour
« Reply #153 on: January 31, 2019, 04:19:22 PM »
So, no tunnels !!

You'll notice the cheapest way of doing it always wins out.
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Re: Pacific Highway Bypass of Coffs Harbour
« Reply #154 on: January 31, 2019, 04:51:53 PM »
So, no tunnels !!

You'll notice the cheapest way of doing it always wins out.

The current State Government has agreed to three tunnels and have backed that with a commitment of funding both State and Federal.  Labors view is they with further details they are not prepared to promise a blank check to have three tunnels.  The local Labor Candidate is in support of tunnels. 

Since the Nationals announcement two weeks ago of tunnels not cuttings with additional funding the RMS is still in the process of changing the plans etc.  The RMS is placed in a position they do not want to be, partly due to the election.  Remove the election and the same result would have happened through the EIS process, cuttings would have been changed to tunnels and the timing of that delivery would have been supported with the change of plans on their website as well. 
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Re: Pacific Highway Bypass of Coffs Harbour
« Reply #155 on: January 31, 2019, 05:43:54 PM »
The current State Government has agreed to three tunnels

Yep, and I believe them 100% !!   :cheers:... 8) 8)
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Re: Pacific Highway Bypass of Coffs Harbour
« Reply #156 on: January 31, 2019, 06:20:26 PM »
Yep, and I believe them 100% !!   :cheers:... 8) 8)

Do I detect a bit of sarcasm in your typing ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Pacific Highway Bypass of Coffs Harbour
« Reply #157 on: January 31, 2019, 06:38:01 PM »
Governments won't give a toss what is for the best.
Arsehats with choose the most cost effective option put to them.
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Re: Pacific Highway Bypass of Coffs Harbour
« Reply #158 on: January 31, 2019, 09:21:01 PM »
Do I detect a bit of sarcasm in your typing ;D ;D ;D

Maybe a lot !!   ;D ;D
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Re: Pacific Highway Bypass of Coffs Harbour
« Reply #159 on: February 01, 2019, 09:03:18 AM »
https://www.pacifichighway.nsw.gov.au/coffsharbourbypass

Only saving 11 minutes travel time ???

That doesn't seem much of a saving compared to what we did driving through the centre of town at 9am a little while back ???

Or are they comparing to to driving through town at midnight ??? >:D
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Re: Pacific Highway Bypass of Coffs Harbour
« Reply #160 on: February 01, 2019, 09:32:14 AM »
Only saving 11 minutes travel time ???

That doesn't seem much of a saving compared to what we did driving through the centre of town at 9am a little while back ???

Or are they comparing to to driving through town at midnight ??? >:D

Probably like most of their other figures, it is averaged out over a 24 hr period. 

Same as the figures for how many vehicles it will remove from the CBD of Coffs.  The figures were given as daily traffic volumes and without copying the full table the figures quoted on the existing highway south of Bruxner Park Road (north side of Coffs Harbour)

Current Daily Volume   35 500

2034 with the Bypass   38 800

2034 without Bypass    43 200

2034 is the projected figures, 10 years after completion.  So north of Coffs Harbour on average per day the way the table reads there will be about 4 500 vehicles using the bypass and the remained being local traffic going into Coffs Harbour.  What that really means is week days during the day or business hours Coffs Harbour is still going to be a Shit of a place to drive though and the time saved on the bypass would be much greater then 11 minutes. 
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Re: Pacific Highway Bypass of Coffs Harbour
« Reply #161 on: February 02, 2019, 08:57:31 AM »
Thanks, that makes sense
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Re: Pacific Highway Bypass of Coffs Harbour
« Reply #162 on: February 02, 2019, 11:51:51 AM »
When is this ever going to end, got to be the longest ever construction of a road ever, bloody joke.
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Re: Pacific Highway Bypass of Coffs Harbour
« Reply #163 on: February 02, 2019, 07:03:22 PM »
When is this ever going to end, got to be the longest ever construction of a road ever, bloody joke.
30 years ago,
Cowper Bus Crash.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grafton_bus_crash
And it is still a strong memory with many locals who were first on site,
One described the sound as if they were at Luna Park, the screams still haunt them.
The federal and state goverment built a dual divided section of concrete nearly two kilometers long, 2 farkin k's long as a response.
It has been used by highway patrol to setup a mobile speed trap.
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Re: Pacific Highway Bypass of Coffs Harbour
« Reply #164 on: February 02, 2019, 09:06:30 PM »
When is this ever going to end, got to be the longest ever construction of a road ever, bloody joke.

At times it's a bit like the other great quote, "No child will live in poverty....."

With Section of the Woolgoolga to Ballina Project finishing in 2020 they will want to have this ready to go to keep the work force and resources ready to go.   
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Re: Pacific Highway Bypass of Coffs Harbour
« Reply #165 on: February 03, 2019, 05:08:15 AM »
At times it's a bit like the other great quote, "No child will live in poverty....."

With Section of the Woolgoolga to Ballina Project finishing in 2020 they will want to have this ready to go to keep the work force and resources ready to go.
Your correct Al. I know bloke who is presently working on the Pennant Hills project & he was telling me the Coffs bypass is their next job.It will happen, they just have to finish the present job.
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Re: Pacific Highway Bypass of Coffs Harbour
« Reply #166 on: February 03, 2019, 08:12:13 AM »
I can't understand what the issue is, the freeway south to Melbourne is almost complete, in fact Wodonga to Melbourne has been finished for 30 friggin years.
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Re: Pacific Highway Bypass of Coffs Harbour
« Reply #167 on: February 03, 2019, 08:51:30 AM »
I can't understand what the issue is, the freeway south to Melbourne is almost complete, in fact Wodonga to Melbourne has been finished for 30 friggin years.
Political BS from one state political party to the next and a lack of backbone from them both.
Also it was the State ALP's way of punishing the north coast for not voting labor.
Two ex mp's have mentioned this to me.

Al might know more as regarding that the Pacific h/way isn't actually the main H/way from Sydney to Brisbane.
I recall reading that the New England is, something to do with during the 2nd WW The New England was the main route for war supplies to travel north(if invadec), it was about how far the Japanese warship guns couldn't  reach.




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Re: Pacific Highway Bypass of Coffs Harbour
« Reply #168 on: February 03, 2019, 11:13:54 AM »
Over the years there has been a lot of Politicking by different State Governments and Local Action Groups and RMS/RTA just walking away prior to Stage Projects being commenced  due to local issues being refused to be negotiated.  Far easy to recommence work on another Stage where all parties can negotiate an acceptable Project.  Has happened at different stages from Sydney to the Border.  Actually shorter then that as NSW State agreed for Qld to build the very northern section. 

Coffs Upgrade was planned to be done 2009/2010 but due to actions taken by Local groups the RMS simple commenced the Sapphire to Woolgoolga Stage.  As Woolgoolga to Ballina 'misses' most contentious places it got a green light pretty quickly.  The Nambucca Heads section only had one complainant so it also got fast tracked.   

Earlier then that there was Shite fights with sections started then workforce and resources drastically reduced as differing State Governments wanted other roadworks done quicker, leaving sections between Kempsey and Taree basically stagnant for years.   But as Hairs said having been a safe Nationals seat for 28 years has gained us a lot of things (regardless of what others say) but has also meant ALP hasn't been as generous to win votes either. 

End of the day the two most difficult sections of the Pacific Highway have been left to last.  Difficult, not just geographically or environmentally but also Politically.  Those two spots being Coffs Harbour and Heatherbrae to Black Hill. 
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Re: Pacific Highway Bypass of Coffs Harbour
« Reply #169 on: February 03, 2019, 05:44:19 PM »
   

End of the day the two most difficult sections of the Pacific Highway have been left to last.  Difficult, not just geographically or environmentally but also Politically.  Those two spots being Coffs Harbour and Heatherbrae to Black Hill.

When they 1st said the hwy would be upgraded all the way to the Qld border, I stupidly thought they would start at the busiest end ( Sydney ) and work their way north.
So now we have the busiest section ( Heatherbrae ) coming in last.....not even on the horizon yet !!
Maybe because it doesn't impact a major town there isn't enough people whinging or lobbying for it ??
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Re: Pacific Highway Bypass of Coffs Harbour
« Reply #170 on: February 04, 2019, 04:00:53 PM »
When they 1st said the hwy would be upgraded all the way to the Qld border, I stupidly thought they would start at the busiest end ( Sydney ) and work their way north.
So now we have the busiest section ( Heatherbrae ) coming in last.....not even on the horizon yet !!
Maybe because it doesn't impact a major town there isn't enough people whinging or lobbying for it ??

The Princes Hwy south is the same, why didn't they start at Albion Park Rail??
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Re: Pacific Highway Bypass of Coffs Harbour
« Reply #171 on: February 05, 2019, 02:18:03 PM »
Bit of a reminder what could happen if something goes wrong with a Dangerous Goods tanker in town  https://www.facebook.com/au.hazmat/videos/2314597172105234/

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Re: Pacific Highway Bypass of Coffs Harbour
« Reply #172 on: February 06, 2019, 06:20:12 AM »
When they 1st said the hwy would be upgraded all the way to the Qld border, I stupidly thought they would start at the busiest end ( Sydney ) and work their way north.
So now we have the busiest section ( Heatherbrae ) coming in last.....not even on the horizon yet !!
Maybe because it doesn't impact a major town there isn't enough people whinging or lobbying for it ??
They basically did north from Brisbane. It's a breeze driving to Gympie now and apparently the bypass around Gympie is next. Now all they need to prioritise is the intersection that heads and goes to Kilkivan just north of town 

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Re: Pacific Highway Bypass of Coffs Harbour
« Reply #173 on: February 06, 2019, 03:31:09 PM »
Now all they need to prioritise is the intersection that heads and goes to Kilkivan just north of town

Don't now if people in Kilkivan want that - lousy road might keep some of the punters away! >:D
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Re: Pacific Highway Bypass of Coffs Harbour
« Reply #174 on: February 06, 2019, 04:03:56 PM »
Don't now if people in Kilkivan want that - lousy road might keep some of the punters away! >:D
if it’s the one one I think it is, the road is good but it’s a fairly dangerous intersection to pull out onto / across  the highway, especially if you are towing something.
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