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Started by Bird, January 08, 2013, 01:02:14 PM

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Paddler Ed

After 2 weeks of working with NPWS and the RFS to cut trails and fire breaks around the Kempsey Road area, mates have had a lightning strike at the edge of their property that they'd managed to keep the fire off of... bollocks...

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Hairs

All this storm front is going to do is give Firies a head ache.
Winds blowing, carrying embers.
What we need is rain, 4-5 inches and then follow up rain.
Talking with farmers, RFS members, they are going to have a busy night.

Edit,
Let alone the lighting strikes on tinder dry grasses and country.

You don't use magic to disappear, all you need is a 4wd & a Swag ;)

Bird

Quote from: Hairs on November 26, 2019, 07:03:22 PM
All this storm front is going to do is give Firies a head ache.
Winds blowing, carrying embers.
What we need is rain, 4-5 inches and then follow up rain.
Talking with farmers, RFS members, they are going to have a busy night.
windy as **** here, mate in Goulburn said they been gettin flogged all day by wind
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Hairs

Quote from: Bird on November 26, 2019, 07:06:50 PM
windy as **** here, mate in Goulburn said they been gettin flogged all day by wind
It's just #$%#@*
There is no relief in sight.
There is no rain in this, it will be like throwing a bucket of water into a blacksmiths forge.
:(

You don't use magic to disappear, all you need is a 4wd & a Swag ;)

Hairs

Not my picture, was shared to me
Taken from Harwood kennels looking west towards Ashby.
Just went out side, the sky through the smoke is blood ted.


You don't use magic to disappear, all you need is a 4wd & a Swag ;)

alnjan

Quote from: Hairs on November 26, 2019, 07:18:02 PM
It's just #$%#@*
There is no relief in sight.
There is no rain in this, it will be like throwing a bucket of water into a blacksmiths forge.
:(


So called front is failing big time.  You might be lucky to get a spit or two.  We've had about three cracks of lightning and looking at the BoM the 'front has just about gone. 
Cheers

Al and/or Jan

Hairs

Quote from: alnjan on November 26, 2019, 07:49:25 PM
So called front is failing big time.  You might be lucky to get a spit or two.  We've had about three cracks of lightning and looking at the BoM the 'front has just about gone.
Yep gone,
Just took the bins out to the side Street, a couple of drops, a couple of lightening flashes across the sky.
That's it, it's gone.
Wind is still blowin.
You don't use magic to disappear, all you need is a 4wd & a Swag ;)

Bird

That be a sleepless night dude.. :(
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alnjan

Cheers

Al and/or Jan

Rodt

Quote from: Hairs on November 26, 2019, 07:18:02 PM
It's just #$%#@*
There is no relief in sight.
There is no rain in this, it will be like throwing a bucket of water into a blacksmiths forge.
:(

Barrelled across us and dropped about 3 mm and has then dragged up a massive amount of dust behind it. Looks to have cleared a little this morning but it reminded me of a vehicle driving down a dirt road with all the turbulence behind it

Hairs

Hi Al,
Just what they would of wanted to deal with last night :(
This morning, HotSpot is showing it has made the ocean.
Heard they lost a house at Ashby Heights.
If it is only one, they have done well.


Pacific H/way is closed north of the Iluka turn off again  this morning due to smoke.
You don't use magic to disappear, all you need is a 4wd & a Swag ;)

Hairs

Better hope a southerly doesn't blow in,
Evans Head, could be next.

You don't use magic to disappear, all you need is a 4wd & a Swag ;)

Bird

Quote from: HairsBetter hope a southerly doesn't blow in,
Evans Head, could be next.


Gee, you'd have as many spare crews as possible wacking in a fire break to the north of that north flank
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Hairs

Quote from: Bird on November 27, 2019, 02:24:03 PM
Gee, you'd have as many spare crews as possible wacking in a fire break to the north of that north flank
Reckon they(crews on tbe ground) would be doing everything they could.
This fire season isn't over by a long shot.
You don't use magic to disappear, all you need is a 4wd & a Swag ;)

Bird

Quote from: Hairs on November 27, 2019, 03:14:21 PM
Reckon they(crews on tbe ground) would be doing everything they could.
This fire season isn't over by a long shot.
and then some.
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alnjan

Quote from: Hairs on November 27, 2019, 05:38:23 AM
Hi Al,
Just what they would of wanted to deal with last night :(
This morning, HotSpot is showing it has made the ocean.
Heard they lost a house at Ashby Heights.
If it is only one, they have done well.


Pacific H/way is closed north of the Iluka turn off again  this morning due to smoke.

When you start looking at the number of houses set in a rural setting it is amazing the number lost is not much higher.  I am one of them but I also try to keep a clearing around us and the bush.  But I have policies that stop me from falling trees that I consider are a risk.  Others what the trees growing right up to their house and wonder why their place will burn.   It will be interesting to see what comes out of the Inquiry after the fires. 
Cheers

Al and/or Jan

Hairs



Quote from: alnjan on November 27, 2019, 06:26:38 PM
When you start looking at the number of houses set in a rural setting it is amazing the number lost is not much higher.  I am one of them but I also try to keep a clearing around us and the bush.  But I have policies that stop me from falling trees that I consider are a risk.  Others what the trees growing right up to their house and wonder why their place will burn.   It will be interesting to see what comes out of the Inquiry after the fires.

The inquiry needs to be above politics, wishful thinking I know.
All levels of response to events like this has to have a result that makes fire managment accoutable.
You don't use magic to disappear, all you need is a 4wd & a Swag ;)

Bird

Quote from: alnjanhave policies that stop me from falling trees that I consider are a risk.
*cough* winch and chainsaw and the boys around for a few hours at dusk, all ash before anyone knows... it fell naturally *cough*
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rags

Quote from: alnjan on November 27, 2019, 06:26:38 PM
When you start looking at the number of houses set in a rural setting it is amazing the number lost is not much higher.  I am one of them but I also try to keep a clearing around us and the bush.  But I have policies that stop me from falling trees that I consider are a risk.  Others what the trees growing right up to their house and wonder why their place will burn.   It will be interesting to see what comes out of the Inquiry after the fires.

Are you in a 10/50 zone?
https://www.rfs.nsw.gov.au/news-and-media/general-news/1050-vegetation-clearing

alnjan

Quote from: rags on November 27, 2019, 07:22:03 PM
Are you in a 10/50 zone?
https://www.rfs.nsw.gov.au/news-and-media/general-news/1050-vegetation-clearing

https://www.rfs.nsw.gov.au/plan-and-prepare/1050-vegetation-clearing/tool

Yep but......copy and paste from RFS site


"The parcel of land you have selected is located in a designated 10/50 vegetation entitlement clearing area. However, you cannot use the 10/50 exemption to clear vegetation on this parcel of land. This land is excluded from the operation of the 10/50 Code as it has been identified as being wholly or partially within:

specified Koala habitat mapped in Comprehensive Koala Plans of Management and as provided by the Department of Planning and Environment

You cannot use the 10/50 exemption to clear vegetation on this parcel of land. Contact your local council or Local Land Services Office regarding any clearing authorisation required.

You may also contact your local NSW RFS District Office if you are seeking advice regarding your land and bush fire hazard management.
"
Cheers

Al and/or Jan

rags

Quote from: alnjan on November 27, 2019, 08:37:12 PM
https://www.rfs.nsw.gov.au/plan-and-prepare/1050-vegetation-clearing/tool

Yep but......copy and paste from RFS site


"The parcel of land you have selected is located in a designated 10/50 vegetation entitlement clearing area. However, you cannot use the 10/50 exemption to clear vegetation on this parcel of land. This land is excluded from the operation of the 10/50 Code as it has been identified as being wholly or partially within:

specified Koala habitat mapped in Comprehensive Koala Plans of Management and as provided by the Department of Planning and Environment

You cannot use the 10/50 exemption to clear vegetation on this parcel of land. Contact your local council or Local Land Services Office regarding any clearing authorisation required.

You may also contact your local NSW RFS District Office if you are seeking advice regarding your land and bush fire hazard management.
"

Well that's a bugger for you, our old place we could clear under the 10/50 plan which was good.

prodigyrf

Makes you wonder how they got on in the past without our modern communications water bombers and CFS capability and in war time too-
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/229265859
Just as well we have them with a lot more people out in that countryside nowadays and be thankful for that.
There's no Great Evil conspiracy against consumers within engineering, manufacturing and supply. Just the many tradeoffs incurred to satisfy diverse tastes, priorities and wallets. But first comes all the insatiable Gummint eggsperts, nanny-staters and usual suspects.

prodigyrf

They did learn a trick or two after the tragic bushfires to pass on to us- https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/248706451
Lest we forget eh?
There's no Great Evil conspiracy against consumers within engineering, manufacturing and supply. Just the many tradeoffs incurred to satisfy diverse tastes, priorities and wallets. But first comes all the insatiable Gummint eggsperts, nanny-staters and usual suspects.

Fizzie

Quote from: prodigyrf on November 28, 2019, 12:45:07 AM
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/248706451

16 Dec 1951

"A Forests Commission spokesman said today that Victoria was now so well organised for all-out attacks on bushfires that
there were no "black spots" left in the State."

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