NSW Fires

[tryagain]

Police ans emergency services dont require them....

Just looked up and from what I could see it's police officers and teacher that are exempt, I am guessing it's because they already have to go through a similar process when being employed.

[MarkGU]

Just goes to show how far & wide the fires are at the moment.
https://www.weatherzone.com.au/satellite/nsw/visible-true-colour

[Troopy_03]

The working with children checks (Blue cards in QLD) are mandatory in any organisation that has anything to do with kids, schools, churches, boy scouts, charities, any organisation that has anything to do with kids is required for its employees and volunteers to have them done.

I doesn't stop those who haven't been caught from being involved, but any system where those who have been are then still allowed to have contact with kids is woefully deficient.

So, why don't parents need to get a blue card? seems odd to me.

[Bigfish]

So, why don't parents need to get a blue card? seems odd to me.

Seems odd to me too as the biggest molesters of children are usually family relations or friends.  Bureaucracy at its finest....it will spend millions on bullShit ideas to get a result that will be of little use in a community.  I hope the churches clergy are all made to get a blue card.   Same goes for pollies and councilors too.

[Bird]

I hope the churches clergy are all made to get a blue card.   

none of em would pass LMAO!

[D4D]

So, why don't parents need to get a blue card? seems odd to me.

In VIC I had to get a working with children check to volunteer at my son's school.

[Bird]

In VIC I had to get a working with children check to volunteer at my son's school.

the missus needed one to go on a schoool bus trip with our kids.

[tryagain]

I hope the churches clergy are all made to get a blue card. 

Not just the clergy, anyone who does anything with kids.

[Rodt]

This process has been in place for years so not sure why the big hoohaa now. Anything that can be done to protect our kids is 100% worth it. There may be loopholes in the system but I would rather something is being undertaken that can potentially stop the majority of issues occurring.

I don't hear too many solutions coming from this discussion just whinging

Let's keep this discussion about the bushfires and the tragedy (and potentially what we can do to help) and leave the other agendas to somewhere else 

[Troopy_03]

This process has been in place for years so not sure why the big hoohaa now. Anything that can be done to protect our kids is 100% worth it. There may be loopholes in the system but I would rather something is being undertaken that can potentially stop the majority of issues occurring.

I don't hear too many solutions coming from this discussion just whinging

Let's keep this discussion about the bushfires and the tragedy (and potentially what we can do to help) and leave the other agendas to somewhere else 

But that's where the whole thread divergence started. Making it compulsory for RFS volunteers to get a blue card. I don't see where they would be working with kids anyway. Maybe a remote possibility if they helped a family evacuate or helped protect a residents property, but really, do you think they'd have that much contact where they'd need to get one?

It won't hurt to do so, except it may hinder the RFS doing their job, while trying to get all their members up to scratch with the requirements.

[Bird]

But that's where the whole thread divergence started. Making it compulsory for RFS volunteers to get a blue card. I don't see where they would be working with kids anyway.

IT would be less for fire fighting - and more for the community stuff.

We used to take the trucks out and do daycare and school visits and education gigs...
Xmas time being a small town we used to do the Santa run too (thinking back, old Mrs Jacobs who played santa from around 1970 would never have had a blue card...)


Even the Woronora boys would take the boats out for santa runs and community workshops

[Troopy_03]

IT would be less for fire fighting - and more for the community stuff.

We used to take the trucks out and do daycare and school visits and education gigs...
Xmas time being a small town we used to do the Santa run too (thinking back, old Mrs Jacobs who played santa from around 1970 would never have had a blue card...)

Even the Woronora boys would take the boats out for santa runs and community workshops

Yep, good point...

[Hairs]

Something very few people talk about.
The lost of wildlife.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-11-20/beekeepers-traumatised-by-screaming-animals-after-bushfires/11721756

[Bigfish]

Something very few people talk about.
The lost of wildlife.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-11-20/beekeepers-traumatised-by-screaming-animals-after-bushfires/11721756

This is why any one caught lighting a fire should be hung...regardless of age..f em!!

[Bird]

Something very few people talk about.
The lost of wildlife.

agree. and agree with BFish too.

I'd be happy to hand arsonists over to the towns people who have lost everything... do with them what you will... make em work, make em clean up, then kill em.

[Bird]

[Kangaron]

Looking at this they are running some planned burns up NW of Vic in the CODE RED zone.. WTF?
http://emergency.vic.gov.au/respond/

Read it again, all in response mode, being patrolled for flareups.
The burns took place a week or so ago.
One planned for Rheola has been put on hold.

[Bird]

Read it again, all in response mode, being patrolled for flareups.
The burns took place a week or so ago.
One planned for Rheola has been put on hold.

ahhhh different views... thats handy


Resume normal programming.

[Hairs]

Pacific H/way & the Summerland H/ways are now closed.
There is a real concern for the people in Serendipty, Woombah & Iluka.
Tullymorgan, all the properties along Pringles Way and Us in Lawrence.
The water bombers are doing their best in these windy conditions.
Stay safe.

[MarkGU]

Current warnings, just put out 1 hour ago.

NSW RFS - Northern Rivers Zone
1 hr ·

*** MYALL CREEK ROAD FIRE - EMERGENCY WARNING *** Posted Friday 22 November 2019, 12:39

Current situation:
The fire is spreading quickly towards the areas of Jacky Bulbin Flat, Tullymorgan and Mororo.
The fire is also burning west of Whiporie towards the area of Mount Marsh.
Firefighters and aircraft are working in the area to consolidate containment options and protect homes.
Summerland Way is closed in both directions. Check www.livetraffic.com for road information.
The Pacific Highway is closed in both directions between Grafton and Ballina.

Advice:
If you are in the area of Tullymorgan, Mororo or Jacky Bulbin Flat leave now to the south, towards Maclean.
If you are in the area of Whiporie or Mount Marsh, monitor conditions. Ensure you know what you will do if the firefront approaches.
If you are in the areas of Bungawalbin, Gibberagee, or Myrtle Creek, monitor conditions. Know what you will do if the fire threatens.
If you are in an area that has already been affected by fire, there may be small areas of active fire burning for some time. Be aware of the dangers of trees and branches falling.

[Hairs]

Live Traffic has Crashed.
There is at the - Maclean Showground, (open 8am – 6pm until further notice) 12 Cameron St, Maclean NSW an evacuation centre that has been setup for those needing assistance/accommodation.
Stay safe.

[alnjan]

Pacific H/way & the Summerland H/ways are now closed.
There is a real concern for the people in Serendipty, Woombah & Iluka.
Tullymorgan, all the properties along Pringles Way and Us in Lawrence.
The water bombers are doing their best in these windy conditions.
Stay safe.

Was driving up to Brissy yesterday and drove through the Jacky Bulbin under the smoke.  As I got to Maclean the Highway Patrol was just blocking the South bound lane.  Made the return trip a long one.  Live Traffic NSW gave diversion using Gwydir, New England and Bruxner Hwys. 

As I was at Beenleigh I had a quick look at Google Maps on phone, yep straight over to Beaudesert, Boonah up to Warwick and down New England. 

Best made plans of mice and men. 

Found the Highway between Warwick and Aratula closed at The Gap due to Fires.  Check with the Qld version of Live Traffic and along with confirming it's closed says to use Alternative Route and the only direction was is Use alternative route.  With NO alternative route I was back on google Maps trying to find an alternative.  Ended up going north to go west to go south taking an extra 1.5 hrs all up costing me about 2 hrs all up extra, with going the New England and Gwydir Highway meant it was a very late trip back home. 

The Pacific Hwy was reopened about 10.30pm last night so if I sat and waited I would have taken the same time. 

[Hairs]

I'm getting alerts that the Pacific H/way is opening & closing as the winds swings around and back.
Very unprecedented times, even with the technology we have at our finger tips.

This has been the view off the front verandah for the last week nearly.

This is the cause of it.

[MarkGU]

There are no words to describe these tools..............fine was way too little IMO. 

Richmond Police District
2 hrs ·

Richmond Valley Council Rangers will allege that earlier today they detected two Queenslanders illegally camping on Golf Links Road, Evans Head. The Queenslanders had also lit a fire. They said they knew there is currently a bushfire emergency and could not say why they lit the fire. A $2,200.00 fine was issued to them.

The fire danger right now is as high as I have ever seen. Hundreds of emergency services men and women are risking their lives to fight them, and people are losing their homes. We don't need people lighting more fires.

[Bird]

This is the cause of it.

awesome photo....