End of Lake Eyre Yacht Club

[prodigyrf]

Why is it so hard to understand that we need to acknowledge that there were people in Australia for 60,000 years before captain cook arrived? Native title is a complex issue but I don't think that people are willing to Google it to understand more. To suggest that living in a house for 50 years is comparable is just naive. 

No it isn't when you pay rates and all the other dues to various tiers of Govt we all elect with equal voting rights. Or are you saying that born here and 60 I have less affiliation with this land than a suntanned white kid of 6, or a pale skinned aboriginal kid of 10 or a full blood 40 yr old aboriginal all born here? Or do we collectively have more attachment to this land by accident of birth over the latest naturalised immigrant who actually chose this land? Are they really just blowins and wogs and don't rate the same until 20, 30... 50?? generations? You're right it is complex but far too many want to make it black and white like you do.

[Fridge Magnet]

No it isn't when you pay rates and all the other dues to various tiers of Govt we all elect with equal voting rights. Or are you saying that born here and 60 I have less affiliation with this land than a suntanned white kid of 6, or a pale skinned aboriginal kid of 10 or a full blood 40 yr old aboriginal all born here? Or do we collectively have more attachment to this land by accident of birth over the latest naturalised immigrant who actually chose this land? Are they really just blowins and wogs and don't rate the same until 20, 30... 50?? generations? You're right it is complex but far too many want to make it black and white like you do.

Mate, not once have I said that anyone has any more right to anything than anyone else. We're talking about Crown land here not a 1/4 acre block in Rosebud. Native title grants made under the Mabo ruling don't confer ownership, or anything even approaching ownership. They simply acknowledge that the conditions of terra nullius on which the Crown based its claims to the land were legally flawed (on a case by case basis).
As Commodore Bob said these rulings can't override common law rights. I'm sure (and I sincerely hope) that the yacht club will continue to sail and grow.

And yes, I think that aboriginal people deserve the opportunity to exercise their rights under law, as do all Australians. That's my opinion and obviously not a very popular one. If you want to say that I'm turning it into a black and white issue that's your call.

FM 

   

[Bird]

So hows it going now?

[briann532]

Yes undoubtedly the issue of native title is complex, but surely fair and just terms can be met.

If everyone takes a Xanax and talks to each other it can be worked out.
The problems start when people become self righteous or try to get self gain.
Problem of society unfortunately.

I have no knowledge of the situation, but surely there is some claim to white mans history and culture.
OK not as dated, but the culture of the club and its history can't be ignored either.

Fairs fair, and hopefully it works out with the best interests of all at heart.