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« Reply #250 on: March 23, 2020, 10:21:03 AM »
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« Reply #251 on: March 23, 2020, 12:43:05 PM »
what do you do here....


cruise ship wanting to dock in Fremantle has 1700 people onboard, nearly all italians, germans, other europeans

they are reporting over 200 people with upper respitory issues onboard
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« Reply #252 on: March 23, 2020, 12:54:50 PM »
Be interesting to see if the shopping centres themselves end up being shut just leaving the supermarket part open. Be a hundred people or more in these places all hyped up and crashing into each other with all the hoarding happening at the moment.
My missus has a full time job in a fashion concession store within Myer in a major shopping centre. Sales have, for obvious reasons, dropped massively since the Coronavirus became a thing. Some days not a single sale. Today she was informed her hours would be cut to 3 hours per day. I suspect it won’t be more than a week before retailers such as Myer such their doors voluntarily.


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« Reply #253 on: March 23, 2020, 01:19:56 PM »
what do you do here....


cruise ship wanting to dock in Fremantle has 1700 people onboard, nearly all italians, germans, other europeans

they are reporting over 200 people with upper respitory issues onboard


Let it dock so they've got shore power, water & services, then quarantine the entire ship so that nobody leaves unless being med-evaced to hospital. Everybody stays onboard until 2 weeks after the last case is reported  & if that's 6 months away, then it's 6 months away!

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« Reply #254 on: March 23, 2020, 02:08:34 PM »
https://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/st-margarets-anglican-girls-school-confirms-three-parents-have-tested-positive-to-coronavirus/news-story/2dffb47f842a7766cb3290f393692cde

QUEENSLAND’S border will be closed from midnight, Wednesday, it can be confirmed.

Anyone travelling into Queensland will be required to self quarantine for 14 days regardless if they are sick or not.
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« Reply #255 on: March 23, 2020, 02:19:00 PM »
Let it dock so they've got shore power, water & services, then quarantine the entire ship so that nobody leaves unless being med-evaced to hospital. Everybody stays onboard until 2 weeks after the last case is reported  & if that's 6 months away, then it's 6 months away!

The Death rate on board would be unacceptable.....

I believe WA Government are looking at Rottenest Island as a quarantine area, using Hotels there, and providing proper medical care and support. Otherwise mining camps, etc should be looked at.   Leaving them shipboard has been proven to increase exposure rates dramatically due to the lack of professional cleaning and medical management.

https://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/health-safety/coronavirus-rottnest-island-set-to-become-a-quarantine-zone/news-story/4fd9c848821da408a1de4c7458f1a2ea
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« Reply #256 on: March 23, 2020, 02:30:32 PM »
For several days now I have been reading as much about this virus and its effect on countries.  With the Australian attitude of "she`ll be right" we will be in deep Shit!!!   Unless we shut down completely for at least 3 weeks and immediately...we are prolonging the effect and causing needless deaths and hardship!! The govt is continually sending out mixed messages and dithering in responses.  Grow some balls and nip this thing in the bud before its too late....We dont want to be another Italy!!!

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« Reply #257 on: March 23, 2020, 05:00:42 PM »
For several days now I have been reading as much about this virus and its effect on countries.  With the Australian attitude of "she`ll be right" we will be in deep Shit!!!   Unless we shut down completely for at least 3 weeks and immediately...we are prolonging the effect and causing needless deaths and hardship!! The govt is continually sending out mixed messages and dithering in responses.  Grow some balls and nip this thing in the bud before its too late....We dont want to be another Italy!!!

We are where Italy was three weeks ago

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« Reply #258 on: March 23, 2020, 06:49:37 PM »
An interesting article about the choice between "full lockdown" and "flattening the curve" that the government, and therefore, we all face.  Problem with most governments is that they try to please most of the people most of the time, which inevitably leaves them at risk of sitting on the fence in crisis situations like this. I'm ok with either scenario but whatever way it goes, I just hope the state and federal governments are far more decisive than they have been so far.

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/coronavirus-australia-has-48-hours-to-decide-which-path-to-take/news-story/1b6d73c33fdaab18c3cd8a212598c06c

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Re: How to cope with the corona virus ..facts- not fiction.
« Reply #259 on: March 24, 2020, 10:33:37 AM »
An interesting article about the choice between "full lockdown" and "flattening the curve" that the government, and therefore, we all face.  Problem with most governments is that they try to please most of the people most of the time, which inevitably leaves them at risk of sitting on the fence in crisis situations like this. I'm ok with either scenario but whatever way it goes, I just hope the state and federal governments are far more decisive than they have been so far.

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/coronavirus-australia-has-48-hours-to-decide-which-path-to-take/news-story/1b6d73c33fdaab18c3cd8a212598c06c
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« Reply #260 on: March 24, 2020, 10:36:06 AM »
We are only at the beginning


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« Reply #261 on: March 24, 2020, 11:11:47 AM »
We are only at the beginning

In a far better position than Italy.





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Re: How to cope with the corona virus ..facts- not fiction.
« Reply #262 on: March 24, 2020, 11:36:24 AM »
We just started later.

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« Reply #263 on: March 24, 2020, 11:40:26 AM »
In a far better position than Italy.




We are only a month behind Italy
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« Reply #264 on: March 24, 2020, 12:06:07 PM »
I think the US will soon be the reference point for comparisons in regard to how bad it could get. Just about every variable I can think of has them fairing worse than Italy, general health, willingness to follow government directives, the hospital system, their lack of testing, Trump's inaction early on (expect to hear him call it the China virus a lot more), the super partisan nature of their politics. etc etc.
Add to all of that, a lot of uncertain and frightened people as it all unravels, fully locked and loaded with their finger on the trigger ready to protect themselves from the masses of other locked and loaded people they think might be coming to either give them the virus or get "their stuff" that place is a powder keg waiting to go off.   

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« Reply #265 on: March 24, 2020, 12:07:17 PM »
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, fully locked and loaded with their finger on the trigger ready to protect themselves from the masses of other locked and loaded people they think might be coming to either give them the virus or get "their stuff" that place is a powder keg waiting to go off.
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« Reply #268 on: March 24, 2020, 12:55:54 PM »

We are only a month behind Italy

As shown on the graph, we are 10 days behind Italy.... Lets see if our graph line has straight lined, or flattened out in 10 days.

If it straight lines, we will have approx 10,000 - 12000  cases by then.

If they keep going as tracking, the US will have a million cases by that time......
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« Reply #269 on: March 24, 2020, 01:14:09 PM »
We are only at the beginning

Yep, this next week is going to be the make or break, comparing it to their 29/2 - 7/3 figures

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« Reply #270 on: March 24, 2020, 01:19:23 PM »
as Aussies queue up for the dole....



Maybe they think they can just shoot the virus if it sticks its head up....At least here we know throwing dunny rolls is the answer.. :cheers:
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« Reply #271 on: March 24, 2020, 01:21:43 PM »
At least here we know throwing dunny rolls is the answer.. :cheers:

I thought you were supposed to set fire to the date roll first, before throwing it ???

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« Reply #272 on: March 24, 2020, 02:21:32 PM »
We are only at the beginning
Just remember Italy has an old population. Median age they are ranked 5th in the world. They also have 60mil people in a much smaller area. Also have to take into account their general health compared to Australians.


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« Reply #273 on: March 24, 2020, 02:24:08 PM »
and remember Rodney Rude told us why Italy was shaped like a boot :D
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« Reply #274 on: March 24, 2020, 02:49:47 PM »
So... is the virus changing....


'A pre-school aged child has tested positive to the virus,'
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