Computer issues

corndog · July 13, 2019, 03:30:40 PM

Yep, it's a question that is as hard to solve as.... How long is my piece of string, what's it made of and what colour is it.

Pottsy · July 13, 2019, 03:44:36 PM

Quote from: corndog on July 13, 2019, 03:30:40 PM
Yep, it's a question that is as hard to solve as.... How long is my piece of string, what's it made of and what colour is it.

21.5 metres, polypropylene, blue and yellow, 3 strand!

corndog · July 13, 2019, 03:48:20 PM

Pottsy... You are unbelievable . Right down to the strands.

bkim · July 14, 2019, 12:27:52 AM

Hi Troopy_03

Very few modern motherboards now have the piezo speaker built onto the board. The case (tower) manufacturers were sometimes suppling them with new cases depending on the brand, but unless you buy a top quality tower, that is also now rapidly disappearing.

When stripping down an old system, I always retrieve the speaker if it is removable and reuse on a new system, they last for years!

Chappie

A faulty hard drive will only very rarely stop you accessing the BIOS, you will need to work out whether it has onboard video or a separate video card, if onboard see if you can borrow a card to try, or remove the card and try onboard if available, most bios's will revert to onboard default (if available) if the video card is physically removed from the system, sometimes a constant reboot loop indicates faulty ram, try removing them and try one stick at a time and pay attention to which slots are in use

Chappie · July 15, 2019, 12:26:24 PM

If you can get the cpu model i can see if it has a on board vga that might work if its not turned off in bios.
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Hi Saph, I had this written down as the CPU - I3-4160.
Thanks

Chappie · July 15, 2019, 12:36:12 PM

"Chappie
A faulty hard drive will only very rarely stop you accessing the BIOS, you will need to work out whether it has onboard video or a separate video card, if onboard see if you can borrow a card to try, or remove the card and try onboard if available, most bios's will revert to onboard default (if available) if the video card is physically removed from the system, sometimes a constant reboot loop indicates faulty ram, try removing them and try one stick at a time and pay attention to which slots are in use."

Thanks bkim, It has a GPU which I assume is the same as a graphics card?
I will remove it tonight and see what happens as well as trying the RAM again.

Iain

Chappie · July 15, 2019, 12:44:13 PM

Thanks Troopy, I will check tonight, in the list of parts I have it says there is a
GPU 2G GTX 750 Gigabyte-OC (low profile) so I will try removing it as bkim suggested.

Also cheers for the troubleshooting link.

bkim · July 15, 2019, 11:55:32 PM

Quote from: Chappie on July 15, 2019, 12:26:24 PM
If you can get the cpu model i can see if it has a on board vga that might work if its not turned off in bios.

Hi Saph, I had this written down as the CPU - I3-4160.
Thanks

Chappie,

Your processor does support on board graphics

Processor Graphics ‡
Intel® HD Graphics 4400

Chappie · July 16, 2019, 07:25:49 AM

I unplugged the GPU, graphics card and plugged the screen into the other plug and nothing changed so I am pretty happy my GPU is not the problem.
1 down 25365 to go.
I put a finger on the HDD and I think I could feel a click??? just before the computer shut down and went through the restrart process, so I think that might be a good idea to swap that out for a new one? Do I need a specific HDD to match up to the rest of the components? The one in there currently should be a Seagate SSHD 1TB.
Thanks

Bird · July 16, 2019, 08:15:39 AM

Quote from: ChappieI unplugged the GPU, graphics card and plugged the screen into the other plug and nothing changed so I am pretty happy my GPU is not the problem.
1 down 25365 to go.
I put a finger on the HDD and I think I could feel a click??? just before the computer shut down and went through the restrart process, so I think that might be a good idea to swap that out for a new one? Do I need a specific HDD to match up to the rest of the components? The one in there currently should be a Seagate SSHD 1TB.

It would certainly be worth getting someone who knows PC's to throw an eye over it (I've done it down here for people) - before you start replacing things one by one or it can get you nowhere for $ sometimes can be cheaper to upgrade the whole PC..
Some of those Asian computer stores sell PC's cheaper than you can buy the parts for. EG: <500

Surely theres a forum member close by that knows PC's?

Also replacing the HD, you have a backup of everything? Software CD's etc for the rebuild?

Robbo · July 16, 2019, 05:21:26 PM

Quote from: gronk on July 13, 2019, 08:18:12 AM
X1.........get a small hammer and give it a tap.......if that doesn't work, get a bigger hammer !!

When all else fails

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bkim · July 17, 2019, 12:26:34 AM

Quote from: Chappie on July 16, 2019, 07:25:49 AM
I unplugged the GPU, graphics card and plugged the screen into the other plug and nothing changed so I am pretty happy my GPU is not the problem.
1 down 25365 to go.
I put a finger on the HDD and I think I could feel a click??? just before the computer shut down and went through the restrart process, so I think that might be a good idea to swap that out for a new one? Do I need a specific HDD to match up to the rest of the components? The one in there currently should be a Seagate SSHD 1TB.
Thanks

Hi Chappie,
did you actually remove the graphics card from the motherboard or just move the cable to the onboard video connection? in most cases you have to remove the card completely for the onboard IGPU to start by default, as said before a faulty hard drive should not stop you from accessing the BIOS, if the drive is faulty you would receive a message saying unable to access boot drive or similar

Fizzie · July 17, 2019, 07:46:18 AM

Quote from: Bird on July 16, 2019, 08:15:39 AM
Surely theres a forum member close by that knows PC's?

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Chappie · July 17, 2019, 08:35:34 AM

Quote from: Bird on July 16, 2019, 08:15:39 AM
Also replacing the HD, you have a backup of everything? Software CD's etc for the rebuild?

I hadn't thought of that Bird, I think I bought the software online through work the photos are hopefully backed up with Google photos.

Robbo, don't temp me.

Thanks Bkim, I removed the graphics card from the slot on the motherboard, it was similar to how the Ram cards were mounted, then connected the screen to the other plug on the back of the computer.

If I borrowed some RAM from a mates PC and inserted them in my PC would that clear up the question over whether my RAM are the problem or is there no guarantee they would be compatible?

Bird · July 17, 2019, 08:52:52 AM

Quote from: Chappie on July 17, 2019, 08:35:34 AM
I hadn't thought of that Bird, I think I bought the software online through work the photos are hopefully backed up with Google photos.

Robbo, don't temp me.

Thanks Bkim, I removed the graphics card from the slot on the motherboard, it was similar to how the Ram cards were mounted, then connected the screen to the other plug on the back of the computer.

If I borrowed some RAM from a mates PC and inserted them in my PC would that clear up the question over whether my RAM are the problem or is there no guarantee they would be compatible?

was the port on back of PC same port as on the graphics card.
make sure the SCREEN itself is set to the correct port (VGA, display etc)

Chappie · July 17, 2019, 09:00:48 AM

Hi Bird, When I removed the graphics card it had the port attached so it was removed as well.
Does that sound right? I googled images of GPU graphics cards and it looked similar to what I removed.
When I turn the screen on it cycles through the different inputs, I will double check when I get home tonight.
Thanks

Bird · July 17, 2019, 09:09:37 AM

Quote from: ChappieHi Bird, When I removed the graphics card it had the port attached so it was removed as well.
Does that sound right? I googled images of GPU graphics cards and it looked similar to what I removed.
When I turn the screen on it cycles through the different inputs, I will double check when I get home tonight.

Yep, if it was same on the card and PC = no probs... Some monitors have an "auto" setting too which as it says auto sets up.

Why not ask your mate who built it to have a look at it

Chappie · July 17, 2019, 09:16:41 AM

Rude bugger finished uni and moved to Sydney.

Bird · July 17, 2019, 09:27:17 AM

Quote from: ChappieRude bugger finished uni and moved to Sydney.

why the **** would anyone move TO Shitney..

Chappie · July 17, 2019, 09:30:10 AM

I think the company threw buckets of money at him.

Bird · July 17, 2019, 09:31:33 AM

Quote from: Chappie on July 17, 2019, 09:30:10 AM
I think the company threw buckets of money at him.

still wouldnt be enough

Kangaron · July 17, 2019, 11:42:00 AM

Throw $50 at it.
https://www.geeks2u.com.au/

gronk · July 17, 2019, 05:35:39 PM

Quote from: Bird on July 17, 2019, 09:27:17 AM
why the **** would anyone move TO Shitney..

Ha ha....someone living in Melbourne , Antarctica's sister city, putting sh*t on another city in Australia ??

HKB Electronics · July 18, 2019, 11:07:34 AM

Is the power supply fan running, if it does but stops etc might be a faulty power supply as you indicated it restarts when the hard disk tries to start.

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