How do you rate our politicians

corndog · March 28, 2018, 10:27:55 AM

Just wondering how people really feel about our politicians. Are they overworked, underpaid, benefits to small or large, get away with to much, should they be more accountable, should they get what they do when chucked out of politics? You get the picture.

#jonesy · March 28, 2018, 10:36:58 AM

Tough call.
The perks are to lure the kind of people out of business that you want running the country. But unfortunately they all are entitled to it.
I wouldn't want there job, it seems they can never make anyone happy.

Bird · March 28, 2018, 10:38:54 AM

Is there a number below zero?

duggie · March 28, 2018, 10:51:14 AM

Do we really need a political argument on this forum ?

jmorgan1981 · March 28, 2018, 10:54:31 AM

I think 95% of them go in with the best intentions.

But because they have to tow the party line, to get anything for your electorate you have to agree to things you are not 100% behind. In time this would become the norm.

The problem is that you become a product of your environment. Things that at first don't seem right then become normal and then become expected. This leads to a seance of entitlement and total detachment from real life. Bronwyn Bishop is the perfect example of this. She believed that the helicopter thing was fine. In her mind we were all crazy and had no idea.

I don't think they get paid to much. They are away from home a lot. Plus to get decent people you need to pay well (maybe we should up the pay rate).

Maybe make a maximum time you can be a politician. This would stop complacency.

Coolblue80 · March 28, 2018, 11:24:23 AM

I'd rate most of them on par with a couple of certain cricket players atm.

ronmac · March 28, 2018, 11:55:28 AM

I wouldn't P..s on them, if they were on fire.

krisandkev · March 28, 2018, 12:09:38 PM

Quote from: duggie on March 28, 2018, 10:51:14 AM
Do we really need a political argument on this forum ?

Totally agree. Kevin

Bigfish · March 28, 2018, 12:40:16 PM

We do not need a political debate. They are all f wits with their snout in the trough. As regards pay..."they are away from home a lot". and get $250-$300 non taxable payment per night for when they are not at home. Some of the sleazy mongrels even stay in their own houses they own and still get the cash bonus. There are so many perks that it is just sickening. What qualifications do you need ...NONE. Some of the morons couldnt even work out what their citizen ship standard was..DOH!!!

Bird · March 28, 2018, 01:00:24 PM

Quote from: duggieDo we really need a political argument on this forum ?

Can we move this to the electrical section?

plusnq · March 28, 2018, 01:07:02 PM

Quote from: Bird on March 28, 2018, 01:00:24 PM

Can we move this to the electrical section?

corndog · March 28, 2018, 01:18:54 PM

Some might be interested in the comments. If your not then you do not need to participate or read anything within it. It is your choice but because you don't like the subject matter should it not be mentioned.

Troopy_03 · March 28, 2018, 02:07:08 PM

Swannie · March 28, 2018, 02:20:41 PM

They Majority are there to;
A. Milk as much $$ and perks as possible
B. Try and change policy that is of Benefit to them
C. Ensure they are set up for life with $$ and perks

Good luck to them, they are the ones that need to sleep at night
Swannie

#jonesy · March 28, 2018, 02:38:52 PM

Quote from: jmorgan1981 on March 28, 2018, 10:54:31 AM
I think 95% of them go in with the best intentions.

But because they have to tow the party line, to get anything for your electorate you have to agree to things you are not 100% behind. In time this would become the norm.

The problem is that you become a product of your environment. Things that at first don't seem right then become normal and then become expected. This leads to a seance of entitlement and total detachment from real life. Bronwyn Bishop is the perfect example of this. She believed that the helicopter thing was fine. In her mind we were all crazy and had no idea.

I don't think they get paid to much. They are away from home a lot. Plus to get decent people you need to pay well (maybe we should up the pay rate).

Maybe make a maximum time you can be a politician. This would stop complacency.

I think that's a fair summary.
Although without parties and having a parliament full of independents nothing would get done. They would never reach any sort of consensus.
I think independents often wield too much power if they hold the balance of power. I'll vote for that so long as my electorate gets....

edz · March 28, 2018, 02:43:56 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eY7ZX6ngOSs ..

HKB Electronics · March 28, 2018, 02:45:04 PM

The definition of a politician says it all:

1. a person who is active in party politics.
2. a seeker or holder of public office, who is more concerned about winning favor or retaining power than about maintaining principles.
3. a person who holds a political office.
4. a person skilled in political government or administration; statesman or stateswoman.
5. an expert in politics or political government.
6. a person who seeks to gain power or advancement within an organization in ways that are generally disapproved.

Most of if not all of our current politicians fall if not all fall into catergories two and six unfortunately.

Pete79 · March 28, 2018, 02:51:02 PM

Quote from: Troopy_03 on March 28, 2018, 02:07:08 PM

Jeepers Creepers · March 28, 2018, 02:55:24 PM

Quote from: corndog on March 28, 2018, 01:18:54 PM
Some might be interested in the comments. If your not then you do not need to participate or read anything within it. It is your choice but because you don't like the subject matter should it not be mentioned.

It'll just end up a Shit fight, but I think you knew that when you posted it.

Bigfish · March 28, 2018, 03:42:11 PM

Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on March 28, 2018, 02:55:24 PM
It'll just end up a Shit fight, but I think you knew that when you posted it.

I,m with Bird on this one....move it to the electrical section where all the knowledgeable ones live..

Bird · March 28, 2018, 04:11:35 PM

Quote from: corndogSome might be interested in the comments.

I think you'll find its be kyboshed in the past as it just ends up a Shitfight for moderators to watch.

theres plenty of forums for political dribble.

Pottsy · March 28, 2018, 05:24:13 PM

I'm not sticking up for the pollies but would any of us put our hands up to do the job, it's a pretty thankless task, you are adored by some, hated by most and your personal life is subject to all sorts of scrutiny.

Shouldn't discuss politics or religion.

Bigfish · March 28, 2018, 05:58:54 PM

Quote from: Pottsy on March 28, 2018, 05:24:13 PM
I'm not sticking up for the pollies but would any of us put our hands up to do the job, it's a pretty thankless task, you are adored by some, hated by most and your personal life is subject to all sorts of scrutiny.

Shouldn't discuss politics or religion.

If I was money orientated I definitely would have had a go. However a sense of self worth and not being a very good liar would see me fail the a-hole test!!

alnjan · March 28, 2018, 06:33:41 PM

Quote from: duggie on March 28, 2018, 10:51:14 AM
Do we really need a political argument on this forum ?

agree

OldPaj · March 28, 2018, 06:36:20 PM

Poorly.

I would like to see politicians who actually even while being party members, did not continually tow the party line unless the majority in their electorate also supported that policy.
So perhaps using their electoral funds to canvas the opinions of their constituents and vote accordingly.

Similarly, politicians who CAN see past the next election and rather than what will keep them in office, do what is best for Australia as a whole. Noting that propping up candidates in marginal electorates, is most often, not necessarily what is best for Australia as a whole.

Politicians who do not make promises into the distant future, fully knowing that they will never ever be likely to be held to account for those promises.

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How do you rate our politicians