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RIVNUT/NUTSERT ?

Started by Ben..., February 05, 2010, 01:06:21 PM

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Matto

GG - this is exactly what I was doing when I broke the mandrel in mine  :-X . When I asked about this process, that's when they told me it shouldn't be necessary, and I was probably trying to put too much force through the gun. Not saying don't do it, just be careful :'(.

D4D - Sounds like you need to play with the adjustment settings on your gun a bit. To be honest, I'm not that good at getting the gun set right myself. There's about three different things that seem to affect how "deeply" I can set an insert for a given amount of squeeze, and I've just not used it enough to really work out how they interplay.

Do you have the same problem using your air tool? Or is it just for normal rivets? (my ignorance of air tools is showing here...)

I'm afraid you have shown my oversimplified process to be obviously oversimplified, and I have no good answer for you! When I next have need to use it, I'll have an experiment with my gun and see if I can work out a combination of settings that result in a deeper "set".

I refuse to be stumped by a glorified pair of pliers!
Matto :)
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Bird

Might have to invest in one of these myself... only need to do 6 holes though :(

ONce you "rivet" the nut into place, is there much sticking out the underneath section??
EG: can you get 'shallow' Rivnuts?
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jwb

about 5 mm ?
Trade tools had one on special for approx $30 not long ago IIRC

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Matto

Quote from: Lost on August 26, 2012, 11:31:34 PMMight have to invest in one of these myself... only need to do 6 holes though :(
If you're only doing 6, there's a couple of tricks you can use. You can squeeze the rivnut down using just a bolt and nut, which is the cheapest but fiddliest way. Destructions here : http://www.fjr1300.info/howto/rivnut-tool.html

Alternatively, there's a special tool that you can get that uses a spanner or allen key to basically do the same thing. It's slower than the pop-rivet-style gun, but only about $8 from memory. Half way down this page - "Hand Insert Tools": http://ovesco.com.au/products.php?catname=Threaded%20Inserts%20and%20Tooling&cat=8&sub=32&subname=Threaded%20Insert%20Tooling

Or find someone local and borrow their gun.

Cheers!
Matto :)
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GGV8Cruza

Quote from: Lost on August 26, 2012, 11:31:34 PM
Might have to invest in one of these myself... only need to do 6 holes though :(

ONce you "rivet" the nut into place, is there much sticking out the underneath section??
EG: can you get 'shallow' Rivnuts?

For 6 rivnuts come round and use mine

GG

MADCOW

Quote from: TOY80ST on February 05, 2010, 02:03:25 PM
Darren, Did you get them from Blackwoods and if so would you have the part number (or page number) for the rivnut pliers? ;) I have to make all the edgeing for the front and sides of by trailer and I am thinking of using rivnuts to do it so I don't have the try and access the inside of the trailer.

Here ya go

http://www.blackwoods.com.au/search?q=NUTSERT
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briann532

If anyone needs to borrow one in sydney north west, give us a call.
Plenty of nutserts, both imperial and metric

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Bird

Question on Rivnut inserts - if the hole drilled is 8mm, what size is the bolt used?
basically I need to go from 8mm hole to 6mm bolt to fit me awning on roofrack...
or will I have to make up a stepdown washer like this?
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theflyingbadger

a nutsert for a 6mm bolt needs a 9.5mm hole.
Jon

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Tim - Stratford

Drill or file out existing hole to 9mm for a 6mm Rivnut/M6 bolt.

http://www.anzor.com.au/threaded-insert-dimensions


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theflyingbadger

Quote from: Tim - Stratford on September 15, 2016, 10:25:28 AM

http://www.anzor.com.au/threaded-insert-dimensions


excellent link Tim. I'm always struggling with what size hole I need once I veer away from my favourite 6mm!
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Green rv

Quote from: briann532 on August 28, 2012, 04:54:56 PM
If anyone needs to borrow one in sydney north west, give us a call.
Plenty of nutserts, both imperial and metric

Brian

i also have one in brisbane
if anyone needs
i have most metric sizes
( i would nutsert pictures to the wall if i could these things are awesome )

:cheers:
Adam
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rags

Quote from: Green rv on September 15, 2016, 11:01:40 AM
i also have one in brisbane
if anyone needs
i have most metric sizes
( i would nutsert pictures to the wall if i could these things are awesome )

:cheers:
Adam
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Thanks Adam, Will keep this in mind. I am over at Bribgeman Downs with the workshop to use it in

gronk

I have a bullbar with a 80mm diameter. Has anyone had success with a rivnut/nutsert on a curved surface ?
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noel_w

Quote from: gronk on September 15, 2016, 06:44:44 PM
I have a bullbar with a 80mm diameter. Has anyone had success with a rivnut/nutsert on a curved surface ?
Have heard of people using them on push bike frames so I guess they work ok. Depends on what you want to bolt on.
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rsteedman

I sell a cheap hand riveter style for $59. Includes a few rivnuts up to 6mm.

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Bird

Quote from: rsteedman on September 15, 2016, 07:15:45 PM
I sell a cheap hand riveter style for $59. Includes a few rivnuts up to 6mm.
any info photos URL?
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Pete79

Quote from: gronk on September 15, 2016, 06:44:44 PM
I have a bullbar with a 80mm diameter. Has anyone had success with a rivnut/nutsert on a curved surface ?
I have used them on stainless steel tube handrail uprights (with a manual hand pump tool for fixing).
Just have to take a little time to make sure your fitting is pulling through at the right angle from center of the tube.

gronk

Quote from: noel_w on September 15, 2016, 06:57:03 PM
Have heard of people using them on push bike frames so I guess they work ok. Depends on what you want to bolt on.

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Green rv

Quote from: gronk on September 15, 2016, 06:44:44 PM
I have a bullbar with a 80mm diameter. Has anyone had success with a rivnut/nutsert on a curved surface ?

i've used them on 60mm alloy and steel and work ok

:cheers:
Adam
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jclures


Troopy_03

Quote from: jclures on September 16, 2016, 07:42:38 AM
I have been using this one they are easy to use even though I need to use two hands. ;D

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/M8-Blind-Rivet-Nut-Nutsert-Rivnut-Manual-Insertion-Tool-MiniSert-/251678618705

They'd store easy in the drawers for a long trip away too. I've got one of the hand riveter style ones, and a few years back when I was fitting storage drawers to the troopy, using mostly M6 nutcerts, it was very hard on the hands (mayby I just have girly hands  ??? ). I ended up using one of the Irwin quick grip clamps to pull them up.

The best tool I've used is the air powered drill type tool, similar to this https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Rivet-Nut-Tool_493254298.html
And I've fitted a lot of staino rivnuts with one of them.
followed by the ratchet style. like this one http://www.rivtec.com.au/151-pop-pnt210-hand-tool-for-rivet-nuts-ratchet-type-m6-m12
But these are a lot slower.
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moose2367

I have a few different rivnut tools.
The old rivet gun type, lever type http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/201479638998 , drill attachment and an air operated one,  which I haven't used yet.

The lever type is the best I have found, when room permits.

I have them all over the oka from the engine conversion, Good for clamping hoses and wiring to.  Dash panels, panel in fills etc.

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