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Re: RIVNUT/NUTSERT ?
« Reply #50 on: March 02, 2011, 09:29:15 AM »
GG - this is exactly what I was doing when I broke the mandrel in mine  :-X . When I asked about this process, that's when they told me it shouldn't be necessary, and I was probably trying to put too much force through the gun. Not saying don't do it, just be careful :'(.

D4D - Sounds like you need to play with the adjustment settings on your gun a bit. To be honest, I'm not that good at getting the gun set right myself. There's about three different things that seem to affect how "deeply" I can set an insert for a given amount of squeeze, and I've just not used it enough to really work out how they interplay.

Do you have the same problem using your air tool? Or is it just for normal rivets? (my ignorance of air tools is showing here...)

I'm afraid you have shown my oversimplified process to be obviously oversimplified, and I have no good answer for you! When I next have need to use it, I'll have an experiment with my gun and see if I can work out a combination of settings that result in a deeper "set".

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Re: RIVNUT/NUTSERT ?
« Reply #51 on: August 26, 2012, 11:31:34 PM »
Might have to invest in one of these myself... only need to do 6 holes though :(

ONce you "rivet" the nut into place, is there much sticking out the underneath section??
EG: can you get 'shallow' Rivnuts?
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Re: RIVNUT/NUTSERT ?
« Reply #52 on: August 27, 2012, 12:36:21 AM »
about 5 mm ?
Trade tools had one on special for approx $30 not long ago IIRC

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Re: RIVNUT/NUTSERT ?
« Reply #53 on: August 27, 2012, 09:12:17 AM »
Might have to invest in one of these myself... only need to do 6 holes though :(

If you're only doing 6, there's a couple of tricks you can use. You can squeeze the rivnut down using just a bolt and nut, which is the cheapest but fiddliest way. Destructions here : http://www.fjr1300.info/howto/rivnut-tool.html

Alternatively, there's a special tool that you can get that uses a spanner or allen key to basically do the same thing. It's slower than the pop-rivet-style gun, but only about $8 from memory. Half way down this page - "Hand Insert Tools": http://ovesco.com.au/products.php?catname=Threaded%20Inserts%20and%20Tooling&cat=8&sub=32&subname=Threaded%20Insert%20Tooling

Or find someone local and borrow their gun.

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Re: RIVNUT/NUTSERT ?
« Reply #54 on: August 27, 2012, 09:22:00 AM »
Might have to invest in one of these myself... only need to do 6 holes though :(

ONce you "rivet" the nut into place, is there much sticking out the underneath section??
EG: can you get 'shallow' Rivnuts?

For 6 rivnuts come round and use mine

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Re: RIVNUT/NUTSERT ?
« Reply #55 on: August 27, 2012, 09:28:35 AM »
Darren, Did you get them from Blackwoods and if so would you have the part number (or page number) for the rivnut pliers? ;) I have to make all the edgeing for the front and sides of by trailer and I am thinking of using rivnuts to do it so I don't have the try and access the inside of the trailer.


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Re: RIVNUT/NUTSERT ?
« Reply #56 on: August 27, 2012, 12:02:18 PM »
Here is a diy version, pretty simple
Economy rivet nut nutsert rivnut installation tool. Small | Large
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Re: RIVNUT/NUTSERT ?
« Reply #57 on: August 28, 2012, 04:54:56 PM »
If anyone needs to borrow one in sydney north west, give us a call.
Plenty of nutserts, both imperial and metric

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Re: RIVNUT/NUTSERT ?
« Reply #58 on: September 15, 2016, 10:06:10 AM »
Question on Rivnut inserts - if the hole drilled is 8mm, what size is the bolt used?
basically I need to go from 8mm hole to 6mm bolt to fit me awning on roofrack...
or will I have to make up a stepdown washer like this?
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Re: RIVNUT/NUTSERT ?
« Reply #59 on: September 15, 2016, 10:24:38 AM »
a nutsert for a 6mm bolt needs a 9.5mm hole.
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Re: RIVNUT/NUTSERT ?
« Reply #60 on: September 15, 2016, 10:25:28 AM »
Drill or file out existing hole to 9mm for a 6mm Rivnut/M6 bolt.

http://www.anzor.com.au/threaded-insert-dimensions


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Re: RIVNUT/NUTSERT ?
« Reply #61 on: September 15, 2016, 10:27:52 AM »

http://www.anzor.com.au/threaded-insert-dimensions



excellent link Tim. I'm always struggling with what size hole I need once I veer away from my favourite 6mm!
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Re: RIVNUT/NUTSERT ?
« Reply #62 on: September 15, 2016, 11:01:40 AM »
If anyone needs to borrow one in sydney north west, give us a call.
Plenty of nutserts, both imperial and metric

Brian

i also have one in brisbane
if anyone needs
i have most metric sizes
( i would nutsert pictures to the wall if i could these things are awesome )

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Re: RIVNUT/NUTSERT ?
« Reply #63 on: September 15, 2016, 05:36:52 PM »
i also have one in brisbane
if anyone needs
i have most metric sizes
( i would nutsert pictures to the wall if i could these things are awesome )

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Thanks Adam, Will keep this in mind. I am over at Bribgeman Downs with the workshop to use it in

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Re: RIVNUT/NUTSERT ?
« Reply #64 on: September 15, 2016, 06:44:44 PM »
I have a bullbar with a 80mm diameter. Has anyone had success with a rivnut/nutsert on a curved surface ?
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Re: RIVNUT/NUTSERT ?
« Reply #65 on: September 15, 2016, 06:57:03 PM »
I have a bullbar with a 80mm diameter. Has anyone had success with a rivnut/nutsert on a curved surface ?
Have heard of people using them on push bike frames so I guess they work ok. Depends on what you want to bolt on.
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Re: RIVNUT/NUTSERT ?
« Reply #66 on: September 15, 2016, 07:15:45 PM »
I sell a cheap hand riveter style for $59. Includes a few rivnuts up to 6mm.

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Re: RIVNUT/NUTSERT ?
« Reply #67 on: September 15, 2016, 07:28:54 PM »
I sell a cheap hand riveter style for $59. Includes a few rivnuts up to 6mm.
any info photos URL?
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RIVNUT/NUTSERT ?
« Reply #69 on: September 15, 2016, 08:06:13 PM »
I have a bullbar with a 80mm diameter. Has anyone had success with a rivnut/nutsert on a curved surface ?
I have used them on stainless steel tube handrail uprights (with a manual hand pump tool for fixing).
Just have to take a little time to make sure your fitting is pulling through at the right angle from center of the tube.

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Re: RIVNUT/NUTSERT ?
« Reply #70 on: September 15, 2016, 10:50:50 PM »
Have heard of people using them on push bike frames so I guess they work ok. Depends on what you want to bolt on.

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Re: RIVNUT/NUTSERT ?
« Reply #71 on: September 16, 2016, 07:27:09 AM »
I have a bullbar with a 80mm diameter. Has anyone had success with a rivnut/nutsert on a curved surface ?

i've used them on 60mm alloy and steel and work ok

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Re: RIVNUT/NUTSERT ?
« Reply #72 on: September 16, 2016, 07:42:38 AM »
I have been using this one they are easy to use even though I need to use two hands. ;D

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/M8-Blind-Rivet-Nut-Nutsert-Rivnut-Manual-Insertion-Tool-MiniSert-/251678618705

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Re: RIVNUT/NUTSERT ?
« Reply #73 on: September 16, 2016, 01:22:17 PM »
I have been using this one they are easy to use even though I need to use two hands. ;D

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/M8-Blind-Rivet-Nut-Nutsert-Rivnut-Manual-Insertion-Tool-MiniSert-/251678618705


They'd store easy in the drawers for a long trip away too. I've got one of the hand riveter style ones, and a few years back when I was fitting storage drawers to the troopy, using mostly M6 nutcerts, it was very hard on the hands (mayby I just have girly hands  ??? ). I ended up using one of the Irwin quick grip clamps to pull them up.

The best tool I've used is the air powered drill type tool, similar to this https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Rivet-Nut-Tool_493254298.html
And I've fitted a lot of staino rivnuts with one of them.
followed by the ratchet style. like this one http://www.rivtec.com.au/151-pop-pnt210-hand-tool-for-rivet-nuts-ratchet-type-m6-m12
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Re: RIVNUT/NUTSERT ?
« Reply #74 on: September 16, 2016, 03:30:53 PM »
I have a few different rivnut tools.
The old rivet gun type, lever type http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/201479638998 , drill attachment and an air operated one,  which I haven't used yet.

The lever type is the best I have found, when room permits.

I have them all over the oka from the engine conversion, Good for clamping hoses and wiring to.  Dash panels, panel in fills etc.

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