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Portable butane cookers withdrawn from sale in NSW
« on: March 04, 2015, 05:12:55 PM »
“Testing, undertaken at the request of NSW Fair Trading and other State gas regulators, has found a fault with the cookers’ shut-off valves, posing a risk that the devices may overheat and could explode.

http://www.fairtrading.nsw.gov.au/ftw/About_us/News_and_events/Media_releases/2015_media_releases/20150304_public_warning_on_portable_butane.page

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Re: Portable butane cookers withdrawn from sale in NSW
« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2015, 05:13:46 PM »
Might chuck mine out then.
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« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2015, 05:34:43 PM »
 All brands have been Withdrawn Australia Wide Oztrail, Primus, Companion, Gasmate etc the lot.
which confirms my belief they are all made in the same factory in China and just painted and branded differently

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Re: Portable butane cookers withdrawn from sale in NSW
« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2015, 05:45:31 PM »
I was always pretty sure a $15 butane stove wasn't made in OZ.

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Re: Portable butane cookers withdrawn from sale in NSW
« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2015, 05:46:38 PM »
Can we get this posted as a sticky as it's quite important information.
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Re: Portable butane cookers withdrawn from sale in NSW
« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2015, 05:50:30 PM »
The article says,  “Consumers who have purchased a non-compliant gas cooker and have proof of the purchase should return the product to their retailer and seek a refund of the full purchase price as soon as possible."
So are there any compliant ones of this type?   It is a shame as they are dam handy.  Kevin
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Re: Portable butane cookers withdrawn from sale in NSW
« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2015, 06:12:18 PM »
Just bought a dozen cartridges at anaconda today!
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Re: Portable butane cookers withdrawn from sale in NSW
« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2015, 06:37:02 PM »

So are there any compliant ones of this type?   It is a shame as they are dam handy.  Kevin

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Re: Portable butane cookers withdrawn from sale in NSW
« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2015, 06:39:35 PM »
Just bought a dozen cartridges at anaconda today!

Take them back as they are not needed. Maybe in the future when new and improved cookers are developed then you may be able to use your cannisters

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« Reply #9 on: March 04, 2015, 06:40:50 PM »
I was going to get one for the new draws...... lucky! Will just use the gas bottle and cook top now!
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« Reply #10 on: March 04, 2015, 06:44:56 PM »
Just bought a dozen cartridges at anaconda today!
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Re: Portable butane cookers withdrawn from sale in NSW
« Reply #11 on: March 04, 2015, 06:56:44 PM »
So I'm assuming this will go Aust wide?  Ours is old, as in 10ish years and hasn't missed a beat.  Not getting rid of it until something better comes out.

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Re: Portable butane cookers withdrawn from sale in NSW
« Reply #12 on: March 04, 2015, 06:57:56 PM »
This has been coming for a quite a while. There have been numerous explosions with these cookers, including some being use within home units as some of our population like to cook with these cookers and woks!
Watch this  vid from 2.20min point to see one explode
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDIWMp3cIPM


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« Reply #13 on: March 04, 2015, 07:00:01 PM »
That test is a bit unrealistic.  Its not like the maniquins can run away!
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Re: Portable butane cookers withdrawn from sale in NSW
« Reply #14 on: March 04, 2015, 07:03:09 PM »
does that mean that the gas canisters are off the shelf as well or is it just the cooker unit?

I use them with the little blow torch that mounts on them, they come in handy for several uses, would be a shame not to have them any more.

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Re: Portable butane cookers withdrawn from sale in NSW
« Reply #15 on: March 04, 2015, 07:05:08 PM »
If you read the article, it doesn't talk about the butane canisters, only the cookers

“Testing, undertaken at the request of NSW Fair Trading and other State gas regulators, has found a fault with the cookers’ shut-off valves, posing a risk that the devices may overheat and could explode."

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Re: Portable butane cookers withdrawn from sale in NSW
« Reply #16 on: March 04, 2015, 07:08:23 PM »
This has been coming for a quite a while. There have been numerous explosions with these cookers, including some being use within home units as some of our population like to cook with these cookers and woks!
Watch this  vid from 2.20min point to see one explode
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDIWMp3cIPM
Not sure what was scarier, the explosion, the subtitles, the bad Engrish or the bad American accent with engrish.
I realised I also bought one from Aldi after Xmas to fit in the camper and still haven't used it. 
Might still keep the few I have and be careful with them, by not putting anything over the can area, like it says
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Re: Portable butane cookers withdrawn from sale in NSW
« Reply #17 on: March 04, 2015, 07:11:27 PM »
So if they are being recalled Aust wide and NONE of them meet code or whatever ..then regardless of proof of purchase you should be entitled to a refund.

Maybe they should have tested the units before allowing  xyz company to sell thousands of them and make a profit from selling them ..then expect that we wear the cost of throwing it out after they finally get around to doing  their regulatory job.

They should force every store that ever sold them to put a post on their website and email every person on their mailing list to report the issue,

Me personally i'll keep using mine ..and yes if I blow myself up I will only have myself to blame as NSW Govt is now trying to save my life after how many years ...  ;D ;D ;D

Bit rich that we wear the cost of throwing them out ..I own 5 of them.

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Re: Portable butane cookers withdrawn from sale in NSW
« Reply #18 on: March 04, 2015, 07:12:40 PM »
Bugger. We've got four (don't ask- keep forgetting to pack it, and have to buy another one).
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Re: Portable butane cookers withdrawn from sale in NSW
« Reply #19 on: March 04, 2015, 07:20:52 PM »
does that mean that the gas canisters are off the shelf as well or is it just the cooker unit?

I use them with the little blow torch that mounts on them, they come in handy for several uses, would be a shame not to have them any more.

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I work for a discount department store, I can confirm there's been nothing about withdrawing the canisters........ Yet......

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Re: Portable butane cookers withdrawn from sale in NSW
« Reply #20 on: March 04, 2015, 07:25:07 PM »
So if they are being recalled Aust wide and NONE of them meet code or whatever ..then regardless of proof of purchase you should be entitled to a refund.

Maybe they should have tested the units before allowing  xyz company to sell thousands of them and make a profit from selling them ..then expect that we wear the cost of throwing it out after they finally get around to doing  their regulatory job.

They should force every store that ever sold them to put a post on their website and email every person on their mailing list to report the issue,

Me personally i'll keep using mine ..and yes if I blow myself up I will only have myself to blame as NSW Govt is now trying to save my life after how many years ...  ;D ;D ;D

Bit rich that we wear the cost of throwing them out ..I own 5 of them.

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Re: Portable butane cookers withdrawn from sale in NSW
« Reply #21 on: March 04, 2015, 07:36:46 PM »
So if they are being recalled Aust wide and NONE of them meet code or whatever ..then regardless of proof of purchase you should be entitled to a refund.

Maybe they should have tested the units before allowing  xyz company to sell thousands of them and make a profit from selling them ..then expect that we wear the cost of throwing it out after they finally get around to doing  their regulatory job.

They should force every store that ever sold them to put a post on their website and email every person on their mailing list to report the issue,

Me personally i'll keep using mine ..and yes if I blow myself up I will only have myself to blame as NSW Govt is now trying to save my life after how many years ...  ;D ;D ;D

Bit rich that we wear the cost of throwing them out ..I own 5 of them.



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Q, So if they are being recalled Aust wide and NONE of them meet code or whatever ..then regardless of proof of purchase you should be entitled to a refund.
A, If you can prove that you purchased the item from supplier ten you should get refund, you may be better chasing it via manufacturer who ultimately foot any recall cost. but for $20 is the effort worth it.

Q, Maybe they should have tested the units before allowing  xyz company to sell thousands of them and make a profit from selling them ..then expect that we wear the cost of throwing it out after they finally get around to doing  their regulatory job.
A, The regulatory job was done, all gas products are given an approval via a private certifying body [AGA or similar], the state regulator only ensures products for sale have appropriate approval as issued by these approval bodies which was the case with these cookers having an approval, mine being AGA. If a product comes to the regulators attention regarding safety or  performance then at that point they take appropriate measures. In this case Fair Trading would have arranged further testing or considered evidence of explosion before issuing this notice.


Q, They should force every store that ever sold them to put a post on their website and email every person on their mailing list to report the issue,
A, typically it is what happens


Q, Me personally i'll keep using mine ..and yes if I blow myself up I will only have myself to blame as NSW Govt is now trying to save my life after how many years ...  ;D ;D ;D
A, But you maybe using it around other people including you own family who's life you could be at risk of injury or death.

Q, Bit rich that we wear the cost of throwing them out ..I own 5 of them.
A, see your point above re refund.
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Re: Portable butane cookers withdrawn from sale in NSW
« Reply #22 on: March 04, 2015, 07:37:47 PM »
Would they be OK if fitted with a rated shackle???.....
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Q, So if they are being recalled Aust wide and NONE of them meet code or whatever ..then regardless of proof of purchase you should be entitled to a refund.
A, If you can prove that you purchased the item from supplier ten you should get refund, you may be better chasing it via manufacturer who ultimately foot any recall cost. but for $20 is the effort worth it.

Q, Maybe they should have tested the units before allowing  xyz company to sell thousands of them and make a profit from selling them ..then expect that we wear the cost of throwing it out after they finally get around to doing  their regulatory job.
A, The regulatory job was done, all gas products are given an approval via a private certifying body [AGA or similar], the state regulator only ensures products for sale have appropriate approval as issued by these approval bodies. If a product comes to the regulators attention regarding safety or  performance then at that point they take appropriate measures. In this case Fair Trading would have arranged further testing or considered evidence of explosion before issuing this notice.


Q, They should force every store that ever sold them to put a post on their website and email every person on their mailing list to report the issue,
A, typically it is what happens


Q, Me personally i'll keep using mine ..and yes if I blow myself up I will only have myself to blame as NSW Govt is now trying to save my life after how many years ...  ;D ;D ;D
A, But you maybe using it around other people including you own family who's life you could be at risk of injury or death.

Q, Bit rich that we wear the cost of throwing them out ..I own 5 of them.
A, see your point above re refund.

So this body who gave it the all clear ..what becomes of them do they get a "please explain".

I see your point regarding risking my own life vs others ..as a rule I don't allow kids around gas at any stage ..even the cook top at home ..when its on kids are not allowed in kitchen ..same same out camping ..but I take your point on board and will be extra careful to not allow innocent parties to be anywhere near it.

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Re: Portable butane cookers withdrawn from sale in NSW
« Reply #24 on: March 04, 2015, 07:42:52 PM »
This is crazy! These cookers have been on the Australian market for many years, with the necessary gas compliance sticker attached. What's changed?
If an oversized pan is used, the gas cartridge will get very hot and go bang and your trailer will be covered in spag bol or whatever.
Make of it what you will but I will continue to use ours as required. A shut off valve shuts off or it doesn't.  Not too hard to see the difference.

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