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LPG by the kg

Started by Ian Wilkinson, July 25, 2014, 03:31:29 PM

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aussieducker

We just got back from touring in a camper in the land of the long white cloud and credit to the kiwis they have it sorted re this filling saga.
They fill and charge by weight. They only fill to an amount or weight stamped into the bottle ( no more gas squirting out of bleeder).
It worked out dearer this way though if i was to fill an empty 9 kg bottle but suited us to top up our lpg bottle every 3-4 days and know we weren't going to run out of gas.  Most other things you pay for what you use eg water, power, petrol, diesel etc why should gas be different.
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koshari

The biggest reason they dont fill bottles at many places these days is that the turnover of staff is simply to high to justify sending them off to the mandatory course to fill bottles anymore.
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Mace

Quote from: koshari on July 26, 2014, 10:16:06 PM
The biggest reason they dont fill bottles at many places these days is that the turnover of staff is simply to high to justify sending them off to the mandatory course to fill bottles anymore.

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aussie9

Also I have to tell you that the cost of having NATA tested and certified scales is horrendous
We used to fill and sell by weight but we still had people arguing over the weight they reckoned was in their Bottle
If it is only a top up now we charge half price of a full fill
It's cheaper to get a swapper if you aren't in love with your "special" bottle
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baldheadedgit

Quote from: Mik01 on July 26, 2014, 07:03:11 PM
I read it that BHG is filling them himself using the bowser!!! So he must have some sort of converted hose connector to do this. I wouldn't be admitting to this. It's plainly dangerous.
Auto lpg is not the same as household lpg - sure it will burn, but it's not the same and your appliances will suffer. Plus, you must transport these cylinders upright, otherwise it dangerous and can attract a fine. :police:
No.... i don't have some kind of converted hose.! I fill a 45kg from the bowser not a 2.5 or 9kg.. then i decant into  my other bottles using an "Approved" hose..!  the propane/Butane mix is different.... I AM FULLY AWARE OF THESE FACTS... As i stated in my original post...!

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Mik01

Quote from: baldheadedgit on July 27, 2014, 08:23:23 AM
No.... i don't have some kind of converted hose.! I fill a 45kg from the bowser not a 2.5 or 9kg.. then i decant into  my other bottles using an "Approved" hose..!  the propane/Butane mix is different.... I AM FULLY AWARE OF THESE FACTS... As i stated in my original post...!

ok, no converted hose.  so you have changed the fitting.
just trying to help you mate - it is an offence to fill any other vessel other than a vehicle lpg tank from a service station bowser.

people have been prosecuted for it. Its just not safe.
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Steffo1

Why not have a gauge on the filler tank, like a fuel bowser, that measures the amount supplied?
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baldheadedgit

Quote from: Mik01 on July 27, 2014, 05:59:10 PM
ok, no converted hose.  so you have changed the fitting.
just trying to help you mate - it is an offence to fill any other vessel other than a vehicle lpg tank from a service station bowser.

people have been prosecuted for it. Its just not safe.
????? no i have not changed the fitting,, if you are or have been in the industry you will no doubt be aware that some 45kg bottles can be filled insitu.....  ! and you will also no that it is the same fitting used in automotive installs !  so filling up at a bowser is very easy, YES it is ILLEGAl    I am fully aware of that,,, No it is not transported laying on the floor under the legs of kids, it is standing upright during transport...
You made your point,, now put a sock in it.  :cheers:

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Mik01

Quote from: baldheadedgit on July 27, 2014, 09:00:26 PM
????? no i have not changed the fitting,, if you are or have been in the industry you will no doubt be aware that some 45kg bottles can be filled insitu.....  ! and you will also no that it is the same fitting used in automotive installs !  so filling up at a bowser is very easy, YES it is ILLEGAl    I am fully aware of that,,, No it is not transported laying on the floor under the legs of kids, it is standing upright during transport...
You made your point,, now put a sock in it.  :cheers:

I didn't have much to do with domestic gas, however am aware there are a range of fittings on 45's.

Sorry if I touched a nerve. You seem to be touchy about this. YOU did knowingly post that you are doing something dodgy, so I can't see how you wouldn't expect someone to remark how silly/stupid/illegal/unsafe your actions are.

On a lighter note, did you know in olden days during war (WW2 I think), they used to drop these out of planes, half full, as cheap bombs?  :cheers:
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baldheadedgit

Your like a little fox terrier,,,  >:( 

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Beachman

I was also sick of having a half empty bottle filled before going away camping so now So now I also have 2 bottles on the go. That way I always completely empty them before getting them refilled.

Mace

When we had the Service Station, it was made quite clear to us by the Gas supplier contract that any incorrect supply of Autogas to household cylinders would lead to instant termination of contract.

At the time, Autogas was the only product with a decent margin, it wasnt worth the risk.

Filling partially full cylinders was both a pita and time consuming. Not worth the hastles.  Thats why swap and go is popular, no staff training and  no risk of injury (gas burns arnt nice).
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Bird

I think its funny Bunnings and MANY places will sell you a new cylinder, and when you ask them to fill it they say "we have swap and go only"
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